Should I just get a Provari?

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ChrispyCritter

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What a few extra seconds? No big deal.. And as far as quality goes, a LT is not a Provari..... To each his own...

Nope it isn't but the quality is getting there (pic below)..it also costs 1/4 the price and compares to the V1 Provari and soon will compare to the V2 might even have a better display if the rumors of the new led are true. BTW the 1 button reminds me of a 1 button MAC mouse and some Provari owners remind me of MAC users...

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The Lavatube is made out of thin aluminum and plastic, with a cheap switch, and mediocre circuitry that doesn't output the proper voltage and cannot maintain a voltage once loaded.

The Provari is made out of thick solid Stainless Steel and more Steel, with a military grade switch, and better circuitry.

The cost of materials alone is higher on the Provari, as is build quality.

I also do not trust the Lavatube's protection, it is supposed to have undervolt protection but will drain a battery below 2.8 volts... just because something hasn't gone wrong yet doesn't mean the product is infallible.

I don't mind the aluminum..if I was building one I would probably make it with somewhat thin aluminum or stainless with a plastic sleeve inside as it would be lighter and easier on the internal circuit if it was lighter if dropped.

If your LT didn't flash the screen at 3.3v it was probably defective..from everything you're posting about your LT it sounds like you got something that was a cheap knockoff.

BTW the safe cutoff from what I read on an IMR is about 2.5v but it's recommended that you don't go below 3v and the reason for that is because below 2.5v it's not safe to charge it..your charger shouldn't charge below that.

Nothing is infallible including your Provari..but I trust my LT but not blindly as you shouldn't with any of these devices.
 
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Alright guys, I figured I would I go ahead and give you an update seeing as how I finally made up my mind. After doing a lot of reading, watching some videos, and doing some serious number crunching, I chose to get the stainless steel lavatube and the silver bullet. (WAIT I'm not finished talking) Once I have supplies stockpiled and the money for the provari I will order it and own all three. :D I also wanted to thank everyone who posted here. You were a big help.
 

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Once I have supplies stockpiled and the money for the provari I will order it

Thats what I said when I thought about ordering a new bike. I never got one, and am still a sad panda because of it.
You know that feeling when you're not quite happy with what you have, but simply cannot justify spending again on the same thing to get it.

Oh well, PVs are cheaper than bikes.
 

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Apollo site still has the 15 for scheduled date and I have spoken with them about it. They said that there is still a small chance it will be moved back but promise that we will have it by the end of the month.
I ended up getting my wife the mini. It fits better in her hand anyway.
 

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Thats what I said when I thought about ordering a new bike. I never got one, and am still a sad panda because of it.
You know that feeling when you're not quite happy with what you have, but simply cannot justify spending again on the same thing to get it.

Oh well, PVs are cheaper than bikes.

I get what you are saying. But I'm the kind of person that if I'm not happy with something, i replace it. At the same time it doesn't have to be the best in the world for me to be happy with it.
 

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I've owned a Lavatube and now own a Provari and I can tell you it is night and day between the devices. I had issues with my Lavatube's button, it would require quite a lot of force to get the LT to fire (well past the audible click). I disliked how the buttons would rattle and also that the 510 connection was crooked, the batteries that came with the kit had a horrible life span (4-5 hours of light vaping @ 4.5v) for 1600mah "AW IMR" batteries (which by the way were generic flat tops with no markings and are certainly not AW IMR), overall the device just felt cheap. The Lavatube would also drain these batteries down to 2.6v before ceasing to function! This will surely shorten the lifespan of your batteries if you are not keeping an eye on the voltage. The Lavatube does not hold a constant voltage, if you set it to 4.5volts you get 4.31v ,4.26v ,4.10v ,4.02v and it keeps dropping, it also does not act well with Dual Coil Carto's, it doesn't matter what you set the voltage to you get some pitiful amount in the 3.3v range.

The Provari is built like a tank, and from what I've read/seen it seems to last forever (and hold its value 2nd hand). Heavier and smaller than the LT and the AW IMR 18490's that came with it seem to last me over a full day of vaping. The fit and finish is impeccable and the menu system is extremely easy to use. If you set 4.5volts on the Provari you get ... 4.5volts, and it doesn't move from there, a constant voltage to me just increases the quality of the vape (there is no variation). The Provari will also fire Dual Coil Cartomizers properly.

Basically in life you get what you pay for.

Would you rather own 4 Honda Civics or a Ferrari F-430...

As long as you have the funds without putting yourself in debt or having to put off important things like rent / food I'd say go for it. After owning a Provari, I do regret purchasing the Lavatube in the first place.

Just my :2c: anyway, your mileage may vary.

Very well said I agree 200 percent. I also paid for an ss lt back in feb. I gave up and got the mini. Came in today and so far its literally night and day compared to my 2 lts (mini and full). Another thought about the LTs, there is no low batt indicator, at least the two I have do not. That means that if you don't keep a close eye on batt. level you can drain to the point of damaging the batts. I did this twice now and ruined two batts at 9.00 each, wont ever happen with my Provari. As for the price, once I had it in my hands I understood and am happy with it.
 

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I don't mind the aluminum..if I was building one I would probably make it with somewhat thin aluminum or stainless with a plastic sleeve inside as it would be lighter and easier on the internal circuit if it was lighter if dropped.

If your LT didn't flash the screen at 3.3v it was probably defective..from everything you're posting about your LT it sounds like you got something that was a cheap knockoff.

BTW the safe cutoff from what I read on an IMR is about 2.5v but it's recommended that you don't go below 3v and the reason for that is because below 2.5v it's not safe to charge it..your charger shouldn't charge below that.

Nothing is infallible including your Provari..but I trust my LT but not blindly as you shouldn't with any of these devices.

Both my lts came from Apollo and both will let the batt get so low you can't see the display, well below 2.8 volts. As far as safety goes, Provari has been out for how long and I don,t know of any safety concerns. Lts for few months and time will tell. Lets also keep in mind NO one has seen the ss lt so its kinda hard to compare quality. You should at least hold a Provari and try it before you pass judgement, I now own both and have made my judgement, Provari wins no competition. And if you still hate it you can sell on ecf for what you paid, try that with lt.:2c:
 

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Both my lts came from Apollo and both will let the batt get so low you can't see the display, well below 2.8 volts. As far as safety goes, Provari has been out for how long and I don,t know of any safety concerns. Lts for few months and time will tell. Lets also keep in mind NO one has seen the ss lt so its kinda hard to compare quality. You should at least hold a Provari and try it before you pass judgement, I now own both and have made my judgement, Provari wins no competition. And if you still hate it you can sell on ecf for what you paid, try that with lt.:2c:

So send me one since they are so inexpensive :glare:

"Battery Monitoring/Over-Discharge Protection – The device will monitor the battery voltage and automatically turn off when the battery is discharged, preventing damage to the battery by overly depleting it."

"...will decrease to about 3.3v level before needing to be recharged. This will help you monitor the life cycle of the battery. The LCD screen will flash when the battery needs to be recharged, and will stop powering the device"

Right from Apollo's site and if your LT doesn't work right it should be under warranty as Apollo has a 1 year warranty on it..it also has 16 reviews on there and all 16 gave it 5 stars..mine works right the screen flashes at 3.3v warning me the battery is getting low..I've never run it lower than that to find out if it cuts off in fact I usually recharge if I see it at 3.5v. The only other thing I can think is you have an older LT that didn't have the feature but I doubt it didn't come with a cutoff as even basic ecigs have them.

BTW I didn't buy mine from Apollo I got it at VaporAlley a month ago and I'm very happy with it it cost $62.99 with shipping 2 unmarked Sanyo (they have been lasting around 2 days under moderate to heavy use) batteries 2-3ohm atomizers and a charger. I ordered it on a Friday night got it Monday.
 
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We get it, we get it. The Provari is overpriced and you can make one in your garage...... If you can afford one, GET ONE, you won't regret it.. Enough said..

Sheesh... Thats my opinion and I will state it ...ONCE.

I could have bought one but instead I bought a my VV Tube kit, 8 SmokTech tanks (4 chrome, 4 plastic caps, 4 are 3.5ml and 4 are 6ml), 3packs of 2.5ohm CE2's, a 131 piece rotary tool kit, 270ml's 24mg nic of various flavored e liquid in 30ml bottles, 1-510 auto mega battery to replace one that went bad and a couple replacement inner o-rings for the tanks in case...

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Nope it isn't but the quality is getting there (pic below)..it also costs 1/4 the price and compares to the V1 Provari and soon will compare to the V2 might even have a better display if the rumors of the new led are true. BTW the 1 button reminds me of a 1 button MAC mouse and some Provari owners remind me of MAC users...

If this was intended to be insulting, I'm not impressed. I am a Provari owner and very happy with it. You are an LT owner and obviously very happy with it and all the other things you are and were able to purchase with the money you saved. Good for you! It never hurts to be frugal. I myself, cannot say one single thing good or bad about the Lavatube because I've never owned one.
 

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If this was intended to be insulting, I'm not impressed. I am a Provari owner and very happy with it. You are an LT owner and obviously very happy with it and all the other things you are and were able to purchase with the money you saved. Good for you! It never hurts to be frugal. I myself, cannot say one single thing good or bad about the Lavatube because I've never owned one.

It wasn't pointed at any one person it's just the smugness of some of Provari owners reminds me of the smugness I hear from MAC users all the time..the funny thing is MAC owners act like they are better than PC users and trendy because they paid more for something. I'll agree the Provari is better in finish but not 4x better and it doesn't preform 4x better either. You don't have to try or own something to have an opinion on it.

I think the Provari would be a great device at $80 for just the device because that's what I believe a device like that should sell for..it's not like it has a wild oled display or anything the numbers on it look like the numbers on a 1980's microwave I have laying around except they are red instead of green..yet they act like it's made of gold...
 
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