should we be stocking up just in case

[dude75951]

i don't think there will be a ban as far as making it illegal but i do see ppl trying to keep it from my lips in public. this thread is about stocking up ,which i buy bulk anyway but im doing that cause its cheap .i see no reason to" stock up" as i can mix or build anything i need and so can all of us if need be. as far as it becoming restricted ,i didnt even know about these groups b4 this thread and i think each of us can be a billboard of truth from reading what we can here and spread our self around

 

[budynbuick]

It doesnt matter what they want you to do... Its no use being all paranoid and conspiracy theorist about it.

Its a simple matter: dont know what will happen? Prepare for all of them. If you can mix your own juices, have a few rebuildables in hands, and ability to make a mod out of a flashlight, you will be set no matter what.

Men have been conspiring against others since the dawn of time & now its suddenly out of the realm of possibility Sheese

 

[cashley]

I just stocked up nic juice this last check and am going to start stocking batteries and hardware so i can vape while I teach myself to build a mod if something pops off. i feel like a supply of vic juice and a few rebuildable attys is the least even a new person should grab.I don't even intend to mess with them attys until i have no choice or i am ready....whichever comes first and its a solid investment either way and i feel better having them sitting there........I feel sorta even if they ban it now that we have the basic idea down pat we can build our own,and even nicotine we will figure out how to extract the easiest and with the internet what we learn will be shared and improved so they cant touch us but we need the supplies and ability to last while we learn if need be. I don't think they will full on ban it though.....they have to know by know with the knowledge base there they would be fighting a losing battle so they most likely will just regulate and tax it into submission and in that case a gallon or 2 of nicotine sitting in your freezer is only going to help you sheesh even if the only increase to nicotine is still the normal sort of supply and demand you have bought low and no longer need to be bothered with it.

 

[budynbuick]

In this day and age the TSA is groping babies and old people's diapers, the states are trying to ban what size drink you can buy or if you can protect yourself with a gun.. Taxes are climbing jobs are being lost. Yeah I'm worried what will be next.

Yes, I'm very concerned, but not about vaping.

 

[Baditude]

Sorry but what evidence do you have that they'll ban e-cigs here?

The FDA & Deeming Regulations of E-cigarettes

"In theory, anything that wasn't on the market prior to 2007 could be banned until it was approved for sale by the FDA, unless it could prove that it is “substantially equivalent” to a “grandfathered” product that was being sold. Because electronic cigarette designs have changed and improved so dramatically since 2007 and many weren't even on the market in the U.S. prior to 2007, this regulation could deny consumers access to hundreds of existing products (leaving them access only to products on the market prior to February 2007) and put many electronic cigarette companies out of business..." - CASAA

 

[NickSteel]

Chicken Little was a vaper.

 

[Baditude]

bump for this: The FDA & Deeming Regulations of E-cigarettes

 

[Ravalstoney]

I'm stocking up personally. Big pharma and big tobacco have a lot to lose with e-cigs getting more and more use. 80% of people I know that have tried them have converted completely and that kills profits for both these groups and they both have maybe the biggest lobbies in American government. It hasn't been a month for me yet and already my Penelope should be here tomorrow, I have a Terminator already (thanks Baditude) and I'm on the list for Senisis. I won't be caught off guard and forced to go back to cancer sticks.

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[flintlock62]

Several people are nervous here in the US and stock piling. I don't know about across the big pond, but I wonder how they can regulate devices? I do imaging they can regulate the juice though. Can you purchase nicotine base there, and try DIY?

???? So something is going to happen to the E-cig and juce sooner or later which will with out a doubt put a holt on us getting juice etc so what's everyone's thoughts????

Should we be preparing for E day ??,
or do we think its a long way of yet??

I know here in the uk they are not looking to ban but regulate or the NHS will be the only ones who can administrate them etc either way I'm maybe thinking I should be buying juice now in bigger quantitys and battery etc. ..any thoughts guys???

 

[NickSteel]

Growing tobacco is legal and supposedly easy. Of course extracting would be a challenge and kinda dangerous.

 

[dude75951]

some of this stuff needs to top alot of the threads. liking casaa info but id like more swag stuff...the casaa store is limited. i say they need a t-shirt that says " mi casaa es su casaa" or "cigarettes kill...so does ignorance " and on the back it says "live long and vape proud" id buy a few to support PR troops

 

[wv2win]

Has anybody here considered that absolutely nothing will happen regarding any bans or fundamental regulations on nicotine products for electric cigarettes in the eu and us that apply to the use of nicotine liquids by the consumer. Is there any one particular person that is employed at the food and drugs administration that has said there is going to be a ban or regulation to this end ?. Or is the information coming from people that are not even connected to the food and drugs administration ?........

To answer your question, yes, there are well connected people, such as Bill Godshaw, who posts here on ECF, who has significant contacts within the FDA as well as groups like ASH, ALA, AHA, etc who know what leaders in those organizations think about vaping. And most of them just "hate" the idea of vaping and see it as another form of smoking and they want it eliminated. There is no middle ground for some of these people and some of these groups. There is no reasonal middle ground. It's basically "quit or die", period.

And IMO, they have a much greater chance of being successful over the long haul if we as vapers continue to do nothing but make posts on ECF about it. Take the necessary minimal steps to protect your ability to vape or don't be upset if it goes away or is severly limited.

 

[chriscamp]

I don't see it being illegal but if it does become banned, it will still be available but at much higher prices

 

[Baditude]

To answer your question, yes, there are well connected people, such as Bill Godshaw, who posts here on ECF, who has significant contacts within the FDA as well as groups like ASH, ALA, AHA, etc who know what leaders in those organizations think about vaping. And most of them just "hate" the idea of vaping and see it as another form of smoking and they want it eliminated. There is no middle ground for some of these people and some of these groups. There is no reasonal middle ground. It's basically "quit or die", period.

And IMO, they have a much greater chance of being successful over the long haul if we as vapers continue to do nothing but make posts on ECF about it. Take the necessary minimal steps to protect your ability to vape or don't be upset if it goes away or is severly limited.

I wish vapors would listen to CASAA. They are our ally and spokesperson. The danger is real that ecigs could be banned within the next few months. I urge everyone and anyone who doubts this possibility to take 5 minutes and read this.

http://casaa.org/deeming_regulations.html

This will be happening next month, folks.

 

[wv2win]

I don't see it being illegal but if it does become banned, it will still be available but at much higher prices

So you are saying if it becomes illegal (banned means illegal), we can still vape if we all want to meet back-alley suppliers and break the law. I think there are a significant number of people who vape who won't want to take that risk not to mention most current suppliers.

I know a supplier who is prominent here on ECF who lost around $100,000 in supplies back in 2009 when it was confiscated by the FDA. He never did get his supplies or money.

 

[subversive]

Yes, you should be stocking up. The regulations may not come down immediately in April, but they are coming.

 

[oxygen thief]

well i never heard of ASH so i went to there website....wow. if they replaced ecig with jew they be shunned as a hate group. i didnt think there were ppl out there who are so emotional damaged that they have to go out of their way to find things to hate with self righteous indignation. talk about blowing poison in children faces and making them look like toys to gateway kids into smoking...theres stupid people outside, and i think their staring at us

I got ...... at ASH and one of the people at CASAA said to ignore them, they're useless.

 

[flintlock62]

I didn't know about ASH.org. I just sent them n email, but I know they are too bull headed to listen.

I got ...... at ASH and one of the people at CASAA said to ignore them, they're useless.

 

[oxygen thief]

This is Supreme Court material if they ban it. What do so many suppliers know? Many are moving into bigger locations, opening B&M's?

 

[Baditude]

This is Supreme Court material if they ban it. What do so many suppliers know? Many are moving into bigger locations, opening B&M's?

Possibly just a calculated risk. If things go more our way once all this FDA stuff is done, heightened public awareness from the hearings might spur more smokers to try e-cigs. Then these vendors will already have a huge head start above their competition.

However, on the other side of the coin, if things go bad, they stand to lose everything. Seems pretty risky to me.

Vendors don't know any more than we know what the FDA will do. Even CASAA doesn't know, and they are on the front lines being our watch dog and consumer advocate for our rights. That is why the time is NOW to support CASAA. This is a pivotal point in time for e-cigarettes.