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Rose colored glasses? Maybe. My dad told me many years ago to not believe everything I read. Little did he know. This world is drowning in misinformation and outright lies that float around the internet. Just because something is in print doesn't mean its true. I believe in real news from real new sources, not blogs or FOX News. Show me some real news about a corrupt FDA and I will change my tune.
I have helped 6 people move from smoking to vaping. Some degree of success. Two only vape and the other 4 vape and smoke. Not sure if vaping and smoking is much better than smoking, but it's a start in the right direction.
All of them actually asked for help because I made the change and they were interested in trying it.
All of them actually asked for help because I made the change and they were interested in trying it.
Every top position on the FDA is filled with people with long standing Big Pharma connections. They don't take positions in the FDA for altruistic reasons.
Recent surveys suggest 90% of the general (USA) public believe vaping is worse than smoking. That is a result of a billion dollar campaign by the federal gov't to convince them of that, mostly in the form of the junk science we are all so familiar with. Although most people give lip service to the idea that the gov't lies to them, when the rubber hits the road they have great difficulty actually accepting that. The gov't is very good at what it does best- propaganda. it isn't the fault of the public. I hear that "vaping is worse than smoking" all the time. I don't blame them although I'm usually surprised at the depth of their belief, as if a few 10 second clips makes them an expert. But that is the world we live in now and it isn't likely to change soon.
It's not just on the federal level. Here in California there is a state campaign to stigmatize vaping. They have a website up called still blowing smoke (.org) to push the propaganda.
The scientific community is starting to get it:
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I have long believed that it's going to take some high profile health care professionals to wake up to the reality that current policy is literally going to kill a lot of still smokers. Many thanks are due to Public health England and the RCP, I think it's still going to take some time, but it does feel to me, like the tide is beginning to turn.
Hopefully actual caring for people's health will gain momentum, and the naysayers and disinformation camps will be discredited and publicly humiliated for their deeds...
I think it depends on how much those people are still smoking. If I had just added vaping to my pack and a half a day habit, then no, I would be no better off. But to reduce smoking over time, as I have done, from 25/30 per day to 2/3 per day, how could I not be better off? I certainly feel much better which has led to other changes as well in diet and exercise. Its called harm reduction. Looks to me that you did a great service to all those people.
Age - 79
Years an idiot (smoker) - 63
Years an enlightened one (vaper) - 2
Credit for quitting - ECF
Mods purchased and juice mixed for people - 12
I'm paying it forward.
Years an idiot (smoker) - 63
Years an enlightened one (vaper) - 2
Credit for quitting - ECF
Mods purchased and juice mixed for people - 12
I'm paying it forward.
why even vape when you can just lick up some E-Juice... put a drop on your finger tip and lick it up... one heck of a nic shot and urges are reduced for a while.... who needs expensive mods and attys 
ohh but wait, hold on here.... licking nic juice will dehydrate your tongue and cause popcorn gums....
ohh but wait, hold on here.... licking nic juice will dehydrate your tongue and cause popcorn gums....
why even vape when you can just lick up some E-Juice... put a drop on your finger tip and lick it up... one heck of a nic shot and urges are reduced for a while.... who needs expensive mods and attys
ohh but wait, hold on here.... licking nic juice will dehydrate your tongue and cause popcorn gums....
Ingesting nicotine into your digestive system on a regular basis can cause SEVERE abdominal pains and ......... As an occasional "boost" you will be fine, but I wouldn't suggest it as a long term replacement to vaping.
I concur, but the technique involves a drop or two rubbed on gums and cheek lining so that it's absorbed rather than swallowed. Dippers and chewers of analog tobacco don't swallow much.
so I guess Nicorette Gum is bad too???
My personal experience was with Commit Lozenges. However, researching I found that ingesting nicotine over time is what was causing the issue. So I quit using anything that would or could be swallowed and my symptoms went away. YMMV.
You can lead a horse to water....................
The FCC, which just killed net neutrality, chair is a former counsel with Verizon. Do you really not think his stock options weren't a factor in his decision, let alone any underhanded incentives he might receive? Corruption in government is as prevalent today as it was in the past.
Hmmm... real news from real sources...
So... CBS money watch reporting that the FDA not only sent a letter to the Obama Administration stating there was systemic corruption (and more) in the FDA, but also reported that the FDA publicly admitted (legally certified) sending the letter is not "real news"?
Because that was among the linked material that you said wasn't "real news" or among the reading material that you simply refused to believe just because someone put it in print...
I'm a little worried to see what you consider real then, if CBS isn't good enough who was kind enough to provide us proof....
Sticking ones fingers in your ears saying I can't hear you, is what children do.... not adults... generally speaking of course.
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