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Sigelei Fuchai Squonker

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  1. hazozita

    hazozita Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 7, 2013
    Virginia
    Sig is getting into the squonk market with the Fuchai. Only info I've seen is Sig's video below. Not a lot of details other than it is a single battery, will take 18650/20700/21700 and does 150 watts (insert laugh track here for Sig's usual wattage overstatement).

    I do like the position of the bottle and the ease of battery swapping. Based on Sig's past history, this is one I'll wait on for some quality reviews before considering.

     
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  2. drugarth

    drugarth Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 12, 2015
    Netherlands, groningen
    I have 2 fuchai 213's (well 1 and 1 of the original sigelei 213's), and they are holding up very nicely....TC is a mess, but I only do wattage mode, so no issue for me.....I'm getting one of these for sure!
    Just hope they also release mod only....
     
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  3. scooterstew71

    scooterstew71 Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 5, 2016
    It looks like its gonna be pricey... £60-£75?? At a guess... can get a vt inbox for that with dna chip... If it was £40 ish I would be more interested...
     
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  4. drugarth

    drugarth Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 12, 2015
    Netherlands, groningen
    it's now on pre-order at 3fvape for $55 including the rda......but it'll be a month or more before release, so I'll wait a bit before ordering, in the hope they bring a version without the rda
     
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  5. sonicbomb

    sonicbomb Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 17, 2015
    1187 Hunterwasser
    150 watts from a single 18650, that's almost criminally irresponsible.
    Without even touching on the safety aspects, the device simply will not get to 150 watts using any 18650 on the market. Even a fully charged high performance cell would sag to oblivion before it even got close.
    Assuming the device has a 3.2 volt cutoff that's 52 amps.
    This is like selling a sports car that only has room under the hood for a lawn mower engine.

    Irresponsible, dishonest and potentially dangerous, well done Sigelei.
     
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  6. drugarth

    drugarth Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 12, 2015
    Netherlands, groningen
    it also takes 20700/ 21700...supposedly some of these are true 40A cont. batteries....still wouldn't feel comfortable though at 150W
     
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  7. sonicbomb

    sonicbomb Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 17, 2015
    1187 Hunterwasser
    Most are 30 amp but with a higher mAh rating. The Samsung INR21700-30T has a Mooch tested 40 amp CDR, but that's one battery.
    The vast majority will be using 18650s, and quite likely a poor quality rewrap that 'the guy in the vape store told me was good'.
     
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  8. zoiDman

    zoiDman My -0^10 = Nothing at All* ECF Veteran

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    Apr 16, 2010
    So-Cal
    I wonder How Long it will be until we start to see Re-Wrapped Inferior 20700 and 21700 Batteries?
     
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  9. halbgott

    halbgott Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 23, 2012
    Urgh, seeing the similar design to the 223 made me cringe. And what sonic bomb said.
    Auto fire is still being posted on YouTube on newer Sig/fuchai models.
     
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  10. sonicbomb

    sonicbomb Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 17, 2015
    1187 Hunterwasser
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  11. hazozita

    hazozita Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 7, 2013
    Virginia
    I'd put money that these Sig/Snowwolf batteries would fall into the inferior category should Mooch test them. Or perhaps they are relying on having the product photo suggest thermal runaway as their claim to accurate product information....

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  12. Walter_Sobchak

    Walter_Sobchak Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Sep 30, 2017
    Indiana
    Some Americans who live in China ran across the Fuchai and did a review of it.

     
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  13. Mr. Relentless

    Mr. Relentless Super Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 17, 2017
    Sigelei never lied about the wattage their mods can do. They just haven't invented a battery that can push them. The fuchai 213 owners manual says to get 2 40amp 18650s to reach 223 watts. haha good one sig.
     
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  14. Hightech Redneck

    Hightech Redneck Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 27, 2015
    N C
    Mike Vapes has 1 and has shown it on a few live shows. Compared to most, the main thing I see that I like is it seems to be a standard bottle and not proprietary.
    I have a screenshot but can't upload it, the upgrade I assume.
     
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  15. nelsonm64

    nelsonm64 Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 27, 2013
    Kelowna, B.C.
    I have a Sig 213 also. and yes, TC is fooked up. I also have a Sig fuchai mini 80w and TC is excellent, I really like it with SS builds. so, if this board has the same fixes as the 80w board we're golden!
     
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  16. hazozita

    hazozita Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 7, 2013
    Virginia
    Review of it by Todd. Bottom line: squonks well, no leaking, TC in SS seems to be working well, pretty comfortable. But regardless of the battery used, it drops down to about 90W. On the plus side, at least the mod is showing that it is dropping down the wattage rather than just displaying 150W but firing at 90.

     
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  17. zoiDman

    zoiDman My -0^10 = Nothing at All* ECF Veteran

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    Apr 16, 2010
    So-Cal
    I think Todd nailed it when he said (roughly paraphrased)...

    "If you can Forget about the 150 Watt thing, and just except that it is an 80 Watt Mod, you'll be fine. If you buy this thinking you are getting a lot more, and believe the 150 Watt spec, you are just putting yourself on."

    That's pretty much were I'm at. If it can do 80 Watts, I'm OK with it.

    If it can do TC, that will be a Bonus.
    Just like if it can Actually do a Firmware Upgrade.

    But I foresee that there is going to be a Lot of Pissed Off people who buy this Squonker.
     
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  18. b.m.

    b.m. Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 30, 2014
    Ohio
    Same here.I don't usually vape more than 35-40 watts,so i never cared if it hit 150 or not,i'll never need that much wattage.I agree though,there will be a lot of unhappy people who already pre ordered and won't know until they get it.I see the same scenario playing out on the Ijoy Capo,real info wasn't released until after everybody jumped at the presales on it,now it comes out that it doesn't do Tc,etc.,so there's going to be a whole lot of unhappy people there too.
     
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  19. hazozita

    hazozita Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 7, 2013
    Virginia
    Another review. With reviews popping up, this should be available soon.

     
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  20. zoiDman

    zoiDman My -0^10 = Nothing at All* ECF Veteran

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    Apr 16, 2010
    So-Cal
    Man... That Blue sure looks Nice with the Black Trim. I wonder how well the Finish will holdup?
     
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