Sigelei Zmax V3 versus Provari - expert opinions needed

[hawkizefan]

What Thrasher and Badattitude said......

 

[hawkizefan]

What Thrasher and Badattitude said......

Sorry Baditude......
Didn't mean to imply you have a bad attitude........my bad.

 

[vapo jam]

Thanks everyone - truly appreciated. Looks like a Provari then. Is this the best pricing I'm going to find? Clearance

Also, can you link me to a place to buy the batteries and charger?

unless you can find something in the classies or have a friend willing to sell you one on the cheap, the clearance list is the best price you'll get.

agree with thrasher and baditude regarding batts and charger, but if convenience is a concern, you can also order everything bundled from provape. just hit "add to cart," and it will give you options to add batteries, a charger, extension cap, etc.

 

[Sackskin]

If you can comfortably afford a provari...get it. As far as a VV or VW device it's the best to me. The fit and finish are BeAUtifuL!

 

[HDVaper]

I own both a ZMax V3 and a Provari. I do plan on buying a second Provari, but I have no plans to buy a second ZMax. The ZMax is a nice device for it's price range. But, it just isn't even close to the same level of quality as a Provari.

OMG...I was gonna say basically the exact same thing. So let me AGREE with you wholeheartedly.

 

[AZHIGHWAYZ]

Quick note of caution. If you order your charger from the cart with a Provari Mini it will most likely be the Tenergy charger and it's a cheap piece of junk. My 18350 battery has trouble making proper contact for charging and constantly shows red (charging) unless I shake it around a little in the seat, then it turns green (fully charged) wheather it's done charging or not. Spend the extra money and get a good quality charger. It will be worth it.

 

[Bill's Magic Vapor]

Hi guys - posted this in another forum but just realized this is where all the people are. )

I'm new to vaping and have not purchased my first upgrade yet. I posted my plan for my first real setup yesterday, but since then, I am already changing my mind. Doing a ton of research by reading the forums and watching YouTube reviews.

So as I'm formulating/refining my plan for my first upgrade/real setup, I've decided to spend more now, less later.

At first I was going to cheap out and get Spinner or Winder batteries with a Kanger Protank (I want real glass) or Protank Mini... I liked the slim look of this approach. But the more I read, the more I realized it made no sense to buy $20 VV batteries when I can just jump to the top of the line and get a fine instrument with complete control, higher voltage, and cheaper batteries to buy down the line (save money in the long run and have a better mod).

So I think I have narrowed it down to the Sigelei Zmax V3 versus the Provari. I understand that Provari is the Lamborghini of the lot, but I'm reading so many great things about the Sigelei Zmax V3, and it is cheaper.

Which one is truly the way to go? Is it worth spending more to get the Provari? I'd rather shell out the cash now and have the best... but is the Provari is truly better? Need expert input!

Thanks for sharing

Don't do it!

First of all the Sigelei V3 is being upgraded on Monday to the Sigelei V5.

Second, the Provari is the better of the two devices, but probably not the best device for you. Here's why:

1. Provari does not have variable wattage. The Sigelei V5 does.
2. Provari does not have ego threading, like you'll use for those evods and MT3s's. Sigelei V5 does.
3. Provari has multiple tubes and battery caps to take two battery sizes, i.e., 18650/18490 OR 18490/18350 (And the different tubes and battery caps don't come standard - they're extra). Sigelei V5 can handle the 18350, the 18500 and the 18650 without changing tubes.
4. Being pretty new to vaping, why spend $200+ on a device, when you don't even really know what you want? You can get the Sigelei V5 for under $100 with batts, charger, etc.
5. The Provari will not charge your phone. The Sigelei V5 will.

These are both quality devices. I think you should get the Sigelei, then later on the Provari. I have both the Sigelei V3, the Sigelei Mini, and the Sigelei V2, and the Provari and Provari Mini. The Sigelei will make a fantastic backup someday for when you buy the Provari. What you need to use the extra money for is for the many, many toppers, juices, etc. that you also need to get. So, get both, for sure, but first the Sigelei V5 (July 15, 2013 debut and on sale now as a preorder at several locations - see ........'s). My Vape On!!!!

 

[Jazzi Mike]

I have a Sigelei ZMax V3. I really like it thus far. I agree with the above poster, Get the Zmax now because you are going to have to get batteries and a charger on top of the device. So add $30-$50 on top of whatever device you choose. After having purchased a VV/VW telescoping device, I will tell you that it's a good idea to pick up batteries in several sizes. I use the 18650's at home where I don't feel weird about smoking a light saber. I use the 18350's when I'm out of the house because they make the device much smaller. Personally, I don't feel the desire to spend the money on a Provari because I am always buying new ecig parts. I get all the same functionality of a Provari in my Zmax.

As far as the Sigelei Zmax V3 vs. V5: The V5's only new feature is that it will charge cell phones with a different head. This does not interest me in the slightest. I would be much more likely to charge my cell phone with my MVP than with my Zmax.

 

[Vwls]

Don't do it!

First of all the Sigelei V3 is being upgraded on Monday to the Sigelei V5.

Second, the Provari is the better of the two devices, but probably not the best device for you. Here's why:

1. Provari does not have variable wattage. The Sigelei V5 does.
2. Provari does not have ego threading, like you'll use for those evods and MT3s's. Sigelei V5 does.
3. Provari has multiple tubes and battery caps to take two battery sizes, i.e., 18650/18490 OR 18490/18350 (And the different tubes and battery caps don't come standard - they're extra). Sigelei V5 can handle the 18350, the 18500 and the 18650 without changing tubes.
4. Being pretty new to vaping, why spend $200+ on a device, when you don't even really know what you want? You can get the Sigelei V5 for under $100 with batts, charger, etc.
5. The Provari will not charge your phone. The Sigelei V5 will.

These are both quality devices. I think you should get the Sigelei, then later on the Provari. I have both the Sigelei V3, the Sigelei Mini, and the Sigelei V2, and the Provari and Provari Mini. The Sigelei will make a fantastic backup someday for when you buy the Provari. What you need to use the extra money for is for the many, many toppers, juices, etc. that you also need to get. So, get both, for sure, but first the Sigelei V5 (July 15, 2013 debut and on sale now as a preorder at several locations - see ........'s). My Vape On!!!!

Wait - so I can't use the Provari with the Kanger Protank???

 

[Baditude]

Wait - so I can't use the Provari with the Kanger Protank???

Yes you can. I have two Kanger ProTanks and they fit the Provari's fine, without any adaptor.

 

[The Ocelot]

I like the Sig Zmax screen/menu waaay more than my Vamo, but if you can afford it, ProVaris are lovely. And as Bad said, Protanks work great on them (this is a mini):

 

[Vwls]

Yes you can. I have two Kanger ProTanks and they fit the Provari's fine, without any adaptor.

OK whew! Scared me for a minute there billbeck!

 

[Vwls]

LOL I can see you are a decorator. I'm a bit of an aesthetics hound myself

I like the Sig Zmax screen/menu waaay more than my Vamo, but if you can afford it, ProVaris are lovely. And as Bad said, Protanks work great on them (this is a mini):

 

[The Ocelot]

LOL I can see you are a decorator. I'm a bit of an aesthetics hound myself

There's a whole thread devoted to decorating in the General forum called something like Show Us Your Pretty Girly. I think that's the longest one, but there are others and some in the modding sub-forums too. I wouldn't say I'm big on decorating, but I get inspired sometimes.

 

[Vwls]

Here's the thing... I don't want to spend $100 now and then spend $250 later on a second upgrade. I just want to hop right up to the thing that's going to last and be the best at what it does. No need for an interim stage. Since I am going to be using protanks (glass fanatic here - hate plastic), and I'm not crazy about the aesthetics of a metal cased tank, I wont worry about certain items like evods... I really think from all I've read, the Provari is the best value for the money... At least it will be over time. I'm a smart shopper by nature and I see no reason not to get the brand I can trust to see me through over the years. It will only piss me off if I buy something and it breaks, leaving me with no recourse but to re-buy.

My backup plan is to use the setup I've planned for the car - just a simple $17 eGo vv with a Mini protank on it. That should produce great vapor and be slim and stealth enough for taking outside... The Provari can stay home.

The only other mod I think I will ever buy after this will be a Caravela... That is if I can ever manage to get one. And that will just be because they take my breath away with their beauty. It will be like buying a designer dress... You don't need it, but it makes you feel special every time you wear it... Or even see it hanging in your closet.

Don't do it!

First of all the Sigelei V3 is being upgraded on Monday to the Sigelei V5.

Second, the Provari is the better of the two devices, but probably not the best device for you. Here's why:

1. Provari does not have variable wattage. The Sigelei V5 does.
2. Provari does not have ego threading, like you'll use for those evods and MT3s's. Sigelei V5 does.
3. Provari has multiple tubes and battery caps to take two battery sizes, i.e., 18650/18490 OR 18490/18350 (And the different tubes and battery caps don't come standard - they're extra). Sigelei V5 can handle the 18350, the 18500 and the 18650 without changing tubes.
4. Being pretty new to vaping, why spend $200+ on a device, when you don't even really know what you want? You can get the Sigelei V5 for under $100 with batts, charger, etc.
5. The Provari will not charge your phone. The Sigelei V5 will.

These are both quality devices. I think you should get the Sigelei, then later on the Provari. I have both the Sigelei V3, the Sigelei Mini, and the Sigelei V2, and the Provari and Provari Mini. The Sigelei will make a fantastic backup someday for when you buy the Provari. What you need to use the extra money for is for the many, many toppers, juices, etc. that you also need to get. So, get both, for sure, but first the Sigelei V5 (July 15, 2013 debut and on sale now as a preorder at several locations - see ........'s). My Vape On!!!!

 

[The Ocelot]

I started with a standard 650mAh eGo kit and had that for several months, before even getting a standard 1000mAh. I then got a 1000mAh Twist (and another one fairly soon after, I don't remember). I got a ProVari for my 6 month tobacco-free celebration and since then I've gotten other mods because I like toys. I still use or have PIF'd everything I've bought.

You never know what the future holds. I love my ProVari, but I'm just now starting to like Protanks. I wanted to love them, but I didn't. I prefer the taste of carto tanks, but Protanks are so easy, it's hard not to use them. I'm in the minority though...

There are also a lot of glass toppers coming on the market, so you're not locked in to just a Protank.

ETA: This is a copy (of a copy) of part of my blog I posted in a thread about the Protank 2 which is on its way:

Sorry for the long copy & paste, but there's so much glass hitting the market it's hard to keep track of it.

April Update: Smoktech has just released a Pyrex and Metal DCT tank. It looks like manufacturers are finally responding to consumer requests for more durable gear! Smoktech glass dual coil cartomizer tank

*There is also a Pyrex Vivi Nova that just hit the market. No reviews yet on how it performs: Pyrex 3.5ml ViVi Nova Tank

*It appears the manufacturers have figured out that there is a big market for glass. Smoketch has the "ARO TANK," pyrex BCC that looks like a slim EVOD (it's hard to tell from the same pictures I've seen). It has a colorful metal sleeve with a window like an EVOD. They haven't hit the market yet (except for pre-orders), but will very soon. ARO TANK

*The Kanger Protank has already been cloned. It's called the "X9 Protank" and is made by Kamry. Early reviews are very positive. X9 Protank

*Vision is also getting into the act, with the Victory A glassomizer with eGo threading that reportedly takes Protank and EVOD heads, as well as Vision.

*There is also the DBox PuriTank another BCC very similar to the Protank, but with a removable drip tip.

ETA: Discount Vapers has updated their product info. The Victory is NOT glass.

 

[Vwls]

Thanks for the links to glass!

Is there an attachment I need to buy for my Provari so I can fit ego threaded parts on it?

I started with a standard 650mAh eGo kit and had that for several months, before even getting a standard 1000mAh. I then got a 1000mAh Twist (and another one fairly soon after, I don't remember). I got a ProVari for my 6 month tobacco-free celebration and since then I've gotten other mods because I like toys. I still use or have PIF'd everything I've bought.

You never know what the future holds. I love my ProVari, but I'm just now starting to like Protanks. I wanted to love them, but I didn't. I prefer the taste of carto tanks, but Protanks are so easy, it not hard to use them. I'm in the minority though...

There are also a lot of glass toppers coming on the market, so you're not locked in to just a Protank.

ETA: This is a copy (of a copy) of part of my blog I posted in a thread about the Protank 2 which is on its way:

 

[Vwls]

Also, do carto tanks really produce better flavor? Is it because protanks mute flavor somewhat?

 

[The Ocelot]

Thanks for the links to glass!

Is there an attachment I need to buy for my Provari so I can fit ego threaded parts on it?

A ProVari doesn't have eGo threading (which is external) it only has 510 (this is what eGo threading looks like)

ETA: You need a 510 to eGo adaptor to put eGo threaded devices on a ProVari. ProVape sells them.

 

[The Ocelot]

Also, do carto tanks really produce better flavor? Is it because protanks mute flavor somewhat?

Welcome to the learning curve! For everything I really like, there's someone who can't stand it and vice-versa. It's the same with juice.