Six weeks in. Vaping constantly, will this pass?

[Schwiggiddy]

I was doing some math the other day, and 3mL of 18mg should be something like 3 packs of full-flavor analogs. I haven't been around here forever and I haven't read every thread so maybe there's something i am misunderstanding about the math involved.

I caught myself vaping almost all day, so I dropped my nicotine level. If you move back up to 24 you may use it less, so if that is your goal then it's worth a shot.

 

[zoiDman]

I was doing some math the other day, and 3mL of 18mg should be something like 3 packs of full-flavor analogs. I haven't been around here forever and I haven't read every thread so maybe there's something i am misunderstanding about the math involved.

I caught myself vaping almost all day, so I dropped my nicotine level. If you move back up to 24 you may use it less, so if that is your goal then it's worth a shot.

Not that Doing Math is a Bad Thing.

In Fact. I would like to see More People doing it on a Day to Day Basis.

But when you did your Math, did you do it Under the Assumption that the Way Nicotine is Measured for e-Liquids is the Same as the way it is Measured for Cigarettes?

Because it is Not.

e-Liquid Nicotine are Total Milligrams of Nicotine in 1 Milliliter of Volume. Whereas Cigarettes Nicotine is Measured as what the Average Person Absorbs into their Body when they Smoke 1 Cigarette.

It kinda an Apples and Oranges thing to try and Compare the two.

 

[Schwiggiddy]

Not that Doing Math is a Bad Thing.

In Fact. I would like to see More People doing it on a Day to Day Basis.

But when you did your Math, did you do it Under the Assumption that the Way Nicotine is Measured for e-Liquids is the Same as the way it is Measured for Cigarettes?

Because it is Not.

e-Liquid Nicotine are Total Milligrams of Nicotine in 1 Milliliter of Volume. Whereas Cigarettes Nicotine is Measured as what the Average Person Absorbs into their Body when they Smoke 1 Cigarette.

It kinda an Apples and Oranges thing to try and Compare the two.

I appreciate the response. Yes I was comparing 1.1 mg nicotine from average full-flavor cigarette and multiplying that by 20 to get 22mg in a pack. So 1 ml of 24mg nicotine was more nicotine than that pack. But please correct me if I'm misunderstanding.

 

[levvy]

I found that my vaping slowed gradually after the first month

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[zoiDman]

I appreciate the response. Yes I was comparing 1.1 mg nicotine from average full-flavor cigarette and multiplying that by 20 to get 22mg in a pack. So 1 ml of 24mg nicotine was more nicotine than that pack. But please correct me if I'm misunderstanding.

That all looks Good.

Twenty 1.1mg Full-Flavored Cigarettes would equate to a Person Absorbing 22mg of Nicotine into their Body if they Smoked All 20 of them. And Yes. a 24mg e-Liquid has 24mg of Total Nicotine in 1 Milliliter of Volume.

So there is More Nicotine in 1ml of a 24mg e-Liquid than what the Average person would Absorb into their Body if they Smoked Twenty 1.1mg Rated Cigarettes.

But here is where it Kinda Fails Apart. One is being Measured as the Amount that is Absorbed. The Other is being Measured as the Total amount of Nicotine present Before the Body Tries to Absorb it.

Two Different Scales of Measurement.

 

[RoudyruffKK]

i was a pack a day smoker and I'm almost 4 weeks cigarette free and i know what you mean. I'm vaping 12mg and i feel the same way how the mvp2 is constantly in my hands when I'm awake. i did use 18mg for a couple days and it made a huge difference, vaping at 12mg i vape about 7-10ml a day and with the 18mg i vaped about 4ml a day so bumping up the nicotine levels really made a huge difference. I'm sticking with 12mg a day though and hopefully i just naturally cut down, the stronger throat hit on some of my juices does help though

 

[cathleenmarie]

I was wondering if my vaping experience was different from others. Apparently it isn't. I vape all the time right now at one month post analogs.

 

[TomasUK]

You describe a common experience among new vapers. Cigarettes burn out...ecigs do not. You've lost what you've habitually associated as an indication to STOP.

Kinda scary at first because it seems like you're vaping nonstop. One of three things is most likely to happen:

1. You'll gradually settle into a frequency level of vaping you find comfortable (or "normal"), or

2. You'll no longer care how much you vape and you'll make a conscious effort to NEVER EVER run out of juice.

3. Both 1 and 2.


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I suspect I'll fall into category 2.

It's nice to see that I'm not alone in the 'using PV as a pacifier' thing, though. I was a little concerned that it was abnormal.

 

[Schwiggiddy]

That all looks Good.

But here is where it Kinda Fails Apart. One is being Measured as the Amount that is Absorbed. The Other is being Measured as the Total amount of Nicotine present Before the Body Tries to Absorb it.

Two Different Scales of Measurement.

Well that makes me wonder then, exactly how much nicotine is absorbed versus how much is burned in the vaporizing process. Otherwise some of it must be present in my exhale, and that is something that a lot of people tend to insist isn't true. That would tend to counter the "totally harmless" arguments, at least imho.

 

[KjAthena]

Well that makes me wonder then, exactly how much nicotine is absorbed versus how much is burned in the vaporizing process. Otherwise some of it must be present in my exhale, and that is something that a lot of people tend to insist isn't true. That would tend to counter the "totally harmless" arguments, at least imho.

This may help ease your concerns..... The study, by Prof. Igor Burstyn, Drexel University School of Public Health, is available at the Drexel website, here (pdf).

sorry link didnt take but if you copy and paste after the .....'s in google you can open the pdf

 

[zoiDman]

Well that makes me wonder then, exactly how much nicotine is absorbed versus how much is burned in the vaporizing process. Otherwise some of it must be present in my exhale, and that is something that a lot of people tend to insist isn't true. That would tend to counter the "totally harmless" arguments, at least imho.

Of course there is Nicotine in the Vapor that you Exhale. Just like there are Flavorings and Sweeteners. If there wasn't, how come people who stand next to me I vape say it smells like Caramel and or Waffles? They couldn't Smell the Flavorings I was Vaping if I wasn't exhaling them.

The Inhalation process Isn't a 100% Efficient Process. Much of what you Inhale Never comes in contact with you Mouth, Throat or Lung Surfaces.

Another thing that is Happening is that Body is Breaking Down Nicotine when you put it into your Body. Which you mainly do in your Mouth and Throat. Almost none of it is Absorbed by you Lungs. No Mater how Deeply you inhale.

Now is what you Exhale "Completely Harmless"? This is where it starts to get Grey. How do we define Harmless? And over What Dosage and Over what Period of Time?

Vaping hasn't been around all that Long. So there are No Real Long Term Studies out there. And I question how Un-Biased some of the Studies and Papers are that are Out there.

Both For and Against.

I think what Most Reasonable People would agree on is that 2nd Hand Vapor is Significantly Better to Inhale than 2nd Hand Smoke. And the Harm to Passive Vapers is Very Low. Completely Harmless?

Time will tell.

 

[zoiDman]

This may help ease your concerns..... The study, by Prof. Igor Burstyn, Drexel University School of Public Health, is available at the Drexel website, here (pdf).

sorry link didnt take but if you copy and paste after the .....'s in google you can open the pdf

Here is the Paper I believe you were trying to link to.

http://publichealth.drexel.edu/~/media/files/publichealth/ms08.pdf

 

[Joe Wright]

I have had the same problem, sometimes I was vaping so hard I would burn the liquid. I smoked a lot more than you though, close to 30 a day. I started at 18mg, stepped up to 24mg to stop my need to vape non stop, I actually think I was vaping more at 24mg.

Just upgraded to a vv mod with an iclear 30, I'm now vaping at a reasonable level. I think the vape is so much more satisfying and I've noticed that having a 45 minute to an hour break between vapes makes the next vape better. We must build up a tolerance the more we vape, this tolerance not only effects our nicotine needs, but it even dulls the flavour.

Vv's can be pricey, so not for everyone, but its made a big difference for me.

Good luck mate, you'll get there.

 

[Whatsername]

I am definitely considering a vv battery. My cousin recommends the ego twist, I will probably order one soon.

 

[zoiDman]

I am definitely considering a vv battery. My cousin recommends the ego twist, I will probably order one soon.

I think you would be Very Happy with either an eGo Twist. Or a Vision Spinner.

 

[shazyzen]

Maybe it's just adjusting to the novelty of it, for me. I don't want to get more addicted, ya know? I intend for this to be a means to an eventual end of nicotine addiction and quit vaping when I feel ready.

Hey Watsername. Interesting thread. My suggestion is: Just try to be "mindful"- i.e: be self aware of when & why & how much nicotine you're chain Vaping.

I totally understand Vaping a lot in the first week or so after quitting analogues. And I love Vaping too- as it's really tasty & enjoyable. But for me I don't like things controlling me, which is partly why I quit RYO's.

It seems you weren't a heavy smoker; as you said you only smoked half a pack a day. So I would suggest that you try to just Vape in a similar fashion to the way you used to smoke. Just an idea

You should be so proud you quit the analogues, but if it's bothering you that you may be Vaping more than you want to be- then just be mindful that you will have nicotine in your system after an enjoyable session of Vaping & try & do some of the things you used to do when you weren't smoking... whatever keeps your mind & hands busy- as others have said here. This is just my opinion-

However, I don't think its bad to chain Vape as long as your nicotine isn't too high. Personally, I like to Vape higher strength nicotine (18-24mg) for now anyway; as I have only been analogue free for just over two weeks. But I want to cut down to 12mg or maybe 6mg in time- I will watch myself closely when I cut down to low nicotine & if I find that I chain Vape I may increase the nicotine strength or have two or three different nic strength PV's available- as others here have found this to be a good way to Vape.

All the best with your journey & Happy Vaping!

 

[abower911]

3ml a day is like... Not very much. You'll be OK just enjoy it

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I would be happy if I was only vaping 3ml a day, today alone I have done at least 10ml. Which I am sure isn't anything compared to some folks.

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[Ice2Cool]

Interestingly I had this same problem when I initially started. It takes a bit of self discipline to teach yourself to take a few puffs and put it down for 45 minutes or so. Alternatively I just take a nice big puff every 5 minutes or so.

 

[evan le'garde]

Op asked "Six weeks in. Vaping constantly, will this pass?"

The only person that can answer that question is you !

Why do "you" think you are vaping constantly ?.

I use 36mg. I've been using that from the start, about , i don't know, 2 and a half years maybe, I vape all day everyday, i switch between 3 different devices all day long, not an hour goes by that i'm not vaping, i like it.

I don't seem to able to handle caffeine very well though, funny that !. Makes me sweat and nervous.

 

[Mark Anthony]

I agree.... 3 ml a day is not very much nor is it anything that you should worry about. Happy vaping!!