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Daddy

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The app was free. Yes, they might as well be Jewish Chinese they way they attempted to nickel and dime you by charging for the upgrades. They learned their lesson and moved on.

They are the only manufacture that is on a recognized stock exchange that I am aware of which offers not only legitimacy to their company but also to the vaping world in general.

You say you personally don't need Bluetooth, which is probably true, but on the same token most vapers don't need TC since most of the vaping population uses power control.

Like I said previously, you don't have to like them, that is your prerogative, but I have to question why an individual would be posting in a company's thread they do not wish to patronize. It seems there is some ulterior motive.

There certainly have been mistakes made along the way and there most certainly has been a learning curve with in their company. You mention the M80 repeatedly but have you read up or have personal experience with the new R80? SMOK actually admitted their mistakes and improved the quality greatly of the M80 when reintroducing the R80. SMOK openly admitted to the error of not allowing customer to upgrade the firmware on the Koopor design and went above and beyond to right that error by providing customers a way to create a tool to do it themselves.

While there have been mistakes, you don't see them repeated often with this company. They learn from them and develop future devices with the knowledge of past failings. Their ingenuity should be commended by the vaping community, even if they don't get it right every time.
 

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Understanding you are a real fan of smok, I'll try to make this my last post on the subject. I own a Treebox. (I also own an m80- bought used for $15 from a disgruntled owner, knew it was junk for TC so no animosity re smok, per se, and an Omnitester. Enough said on them.) The treestump's okay- even though it lacks the accouterments mentioned previously- things that a "cutting edge" company certainly could have included. Which was the point of my earlier post. Nothing more, nothing less.

As for TC being needed, well, all I can say is after having used mods with TC and w/o TC, I will never own a regulated device that does not have TC. And I'll make you a wager that mods w/TC will far outpace mods w/blutooth.;)

Lastly, I mentioned the m80 but once- after you stated "SMOK and the M80 was the beginning of the TC age", which is as ludicrous of a statement I have EVER read re TC to date.
 
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App is free and the upgrades for the xcube 2 are now free and they offered compensation for anyone that paid for their upgrades so not sure where paying for anything but the mod comes from. In terms of performance my xcube 2 has been rock solid for me and the temp control works just fine though I have only used it with nickel and 430 ss. Most problems with the xcube 2 have been user error and the worst thing I can say about smok is they are very slow to respond to correspondence but not exactly the only ones like that, so if I'm a fanboy for stating facts so be it but I only own one smok product whereas I own 7 joyetech ones so not sure I can be classed as a smok fanboy.
 
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I am getting fed up with my X Cube II. I got it for Christmas from my children, and right away updated the firmware. It vapes great in power mode...amazingly well. However, when I try to TC vape anything other than Ni200, it throws me out of TC mode and into power mode. This has happened with both Ti and SS316L. I'm close to trading it off for something known to work.

Luckily, I have an RX200 that I can vape with while I dicker around with the Smok.

Here's my build...simple dual coil, 3mm, 26ga SS316L round, dual coil, 9 wrap, spaced, vertical in an Aromamizer. I haven't tried to build an RDA with SS yet, only the Aromamizer. All screws are quite snug, so no loose connections. TCRs tried range from 0.0008 up to 0.0011. I've moved my ohms up and down the range, trying each new setting...each one kicking me out of TC.

I've even tried setting TCR and such with the app, and it's done the same.

Someone please help me before I trade off a Christmas gift...or put it on the shelf, unused, where I will have to answer the kids when they come over and ask why I'm not using what they bought me.
 

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I am getting fed up with my X Cube II. I got it for Christmas from my children, and right away updated the firmware. It vapes great in power mode...amazingly well. However, when I try to TC vape anything other than Ni200, it throws me out of TC mode and into power mode. This has happened with both Ti and SS316L. I'm close to trading it off for something known to work.

Luckily, I have an RX200 that I can vape with while I dicker around with the Smok.

Here's my build...simple dual coil, 3mm, 26ga SS316L round, dual coil, 9 wrap, spaced, vertical in an Aromamizer. I haven't tried to build an RDA with SS yet, only the Aromamizer. All screws are quite snug, so no loose connections. TCRs tried range from 0.0008 up to 0.0011. I've moved my ohms up and down the range, trying each new setting...each one kicking me out of TC.

I've even tried setting TCR and such with the app, and it's done the same.

Someone please help me before I trade off a Christmas gift...or put it on the shelf, unused, where I will have to answer the kids when they come over and ask why I'm not using what they bought me.
It usually jumps out of tc when the resistance jumps below what the mod thinks it should get to.

You can try tightening the atty on the mod a bit tighter when you get the base resistance read.

Also, in the settings on the mod, try lowering the resistance of the coil. Like if it's reading 0.3 ohm, tell it its 0.29 ohms.

You get to this by triple pressing the fire bar to get to menu, cycle through to 5.Settings, then cycle to f.adjust ohm.

But honestly, I don't think that's going to help. If it's having the problem consistently, sounds like you may have a problem that slipped past QC, like the guy who tore his apart to build a dna200 out of it many pages back who found his ground on the 510 wasn't tightened properly.

Sorry to say your xcube may just have to fill the role of beater mod to take places you don't want to risk dropping or otherwise damaging your every day device. I have an invader mini that fills that role myself, and my xcube only gets used while my dna Reuleaux is charging.

You could try opening it up to check connections of course, but that may not be the issue.
 

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I agree with "pevinsghost", you will likely find an internal issue. If that doesn't turn out to be the case you probably could just use it as a beater mod. I know it's likely not the "product" but probably the individual device because I have one and have not even once encountered such an issue, hence I think it's an internal hardware issue.

Then again perhaps mine is the anomaly, because I have read of a lot of problems in this forum that I myself have not encountered.
 

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anyone knows how to fix this? having problems with temp control

initially it fires at more then 50w, then it goes down to around 0.3w and remains there
I've seen this as well. Not sure exactly what causes it, but there are a couple things that can help.

1. Go into the settings and lower the resistance for the coil about 10%

2. When this happens, turn the temp up higher, press the fire bar, then turn the temp back down to what I was trying to vape at. That seems to clear it up for me.
 

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I've seen this as well. Not sure exactly what causes it, but there are a couple things that can help.

1. Go into the settings and lower the resistance for the coil about 10%

2. When this happens, turn the temp up higher, press the fire bar, then turn the temp back down to what I was trying to vape at. That seems to clear it up for me.
Not wanting to get off topic but having the same sort of prob w/my smok treebox. In TC Steel mode using 316L coils (between 0.5 and 0.9 ohms but will do it w/any TC'able resistance) it'll fire like it was turned p all the way, regardless of how low I set the temp. It'll give a burned hit in a matter of seconds! The "best" workaround I've come up w/so far is similar to what you're doing- lowering the initial resistance. In my case I dropped it from 0.75 to 0.725 ohm. Even then I still needed to lower the temp far below where I normally vape because it was still firing too hot. But the weird thing is, after vaping for a few minutes the power drops off and I have to begin upping the temp 20-30 deg. F at a time until it settles in at usually around 440 deg. F. Then if the mod sits unused for a while, it'll go back to hitting far too hot and I need to drop the temp way down and repeat the whole thing w/upping the temp as the power drops off during use.

Real pain in the ..... Seems to do better using Ni200 and never used Ti to know what it'll do w/it, but this mod SHOULD handle 316L w/o all the hoop-jumping. Very disappointed w/this state of affairs- the main reason I bought it was for the enclosure so it looks like I'll be gutting it sooner than later.
 

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The wire is 316L and works fine on other TC mods. In any event the wire type has no bearing on how the temp starts out uber high then drops w/use- then goes back up again after the mod is idle for a while.

I haven't used my x cube 2 in a couple months now, but wasn't there a "soft, hard, max" selections or something like that for a type of pre hit punch? Maybe there is a wattage adjustment on the device as well. I've been using the RX200 lately and it is default set to 200 watts in TC mode. So when you go to use it in TC you need to also adjust your wattage down to a more manageable setting for the wire you are using. I honestly forget if that is something that needed to be done on the x cube 2 or not. I do believe there was a "soft, hard, max" settings. Maybe start there.

The wire working fine on other mods simply means that those mods are calibrated for that wire. It does not mean the x cube 2 is or isn't.
 

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Last post on the subjest as I'm Not wanting to get off topic. The mod in question is the treebox. The wire IS NOT the issue. I've been all through the settings, the "best" approach so far is what I said earlier (and was mentioned by another poster) about dropping the initial res. But nothing helps w/the mod starting off firing too hot, only to drop the power as I vape. This continues until the mod is idle for a while, then the cycle repeats.
 

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Last post on the subjest as I'm Not wanting to get off topic. The mod in question is the treebox. The wire IS NOT the issue. I've been all through the settings, the "best" approach so far is what I said earlier (and was mentioned by another poster) about dropping the initial res. But nothing helps w/the mod starting off firing too hot, only to drop the power as I vape. This continues until the mod is idle for a while, then the cycle repeats.

TC works by monitoring the resistance of your wire. The resistance changes based on heat. So it makes sense that the resistance is jumping around if you are unable to lock the resistance and it also makes sense that the process repeats after the mod has been "idle for a while".

See if you are able to lock the resistance and adjust the power while in temp mode.
 

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The initial resistance is initially read correctly by the mod. The initial resistance does not "jump around". The initial resistance has to be artificially lowered to make it vapable, lowering just the temp- even to the lowest setting- is not low enough to not get burnt hits. It is only after lowering the IR AND lowering the temp setting that it becomes vapable. BUT the power will drop off after a few minutes of use, requiring the temp to be raised 20-30 deg. F every few minutes to keep it vaping. This cycle repeats after sitting idle for 10 minutes or so.

WADR, pls. consider this a PSA and not a plea for help.
 
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