Smok XPro M80 Plus - new version, v6 firmware: temperature control testing results

[MagicJosh]

Off subject!

In my opinion fellas and fellettes,

This is no doubt, the best istick around! Actually fires faster then my 50 watt iStick on firing the fire button. No rattles. The plastic button is stupid. I think they put it in for rattle issues. If your gonna buy this device go find one that is updated to the (v0006). After using an iStick 50 for 2 months, the m80 is like a luxury vape to me. Now. When i receive my Yihi m class It better be allot better. After reading and watching the reviews of the greats say the m80 is trash I'm so interested in what they are vaping on. I will just have to stop relying on youtubers and popular vapers opinions. I'm not the guy who like walking around with a big block in my hand like''Look at me I Vape'' . I like small techy looking ones that usb charge. Like, I would never buy a Sigeli, unless It has a Usb charger and smaller. vaporsharks and m80's are my style. I have a feeling Smawk is going to produce something great in the near future to replace the m80 TP bashing. I really hope so

 

[NoStringz]

Thanks everyone. You helped me make my decision on which box to buy that has temp control. Well, almost. I'm going to research the rDna 40

 

[Mike89]

I've had this for awhile now and really like it. The temp control (might be better phrased as temp management) works fine and with Kanthal. Doesn't actually monitor temps but is set to an algorithm (which is why it won't pass the dry cotton burn test). I could care less about the dry burn cotton test, I think it works fine. It will adjust the wattage as necessary to maintain the temp (approxj) you have it set at. Who cares if it's actually 450 when you have set at that? It's close and the important thing is it does change when changing temps. Keeps an even vape without the coils getting hotter and hotter through the vape. With all this temp control craze that's going on I think whats important is how useful you actually find it. Personally I don't find it all that useful. If all you do is long pulls (like as much vape as you can get in your lungs kind of thing) then it might be your thing. For shorter vapes I prefer wattage mode cause it gives all the power all the time instead of adjusting it through the vape. I play around with the temp control sometimes cause I can but always end up going back to wattage mode. I use it maybe 5% of the time. Mostly I forget I have it. As for the Smok XPro M80 Plus, I think it's a damn good mod and can't really find fault with it. For me certainly better than the crap istick 50 watt that I ended up sending back two of them for issues. Exchanged the last one for this Smok and never looked back.

 

[waverunr2001]

I know well enough if I'm going to have a dry hit.[/QUOTE]

This is my point exactly! If you don't know that you are about going to get a dry hit, then you deserve it. Are we idiots here. You can't tell the flavor is changing???? HELLO!

 

[waverunr2001]

I have been more than happy with my V0006 M80 Plus. Even with the temperature control not being accurate, it works with how I vape. I rebuild my own ICear 16's, even weld my own nr-r-nr wires for the coils. Set it to 200 f. @ 7 watts. Or my Atlantis RTA I set it on 370 F. @ 30 watts. Never had a dry or burnt hit.

I've read through this entire thread and agree with everything that's been stated here. And just praying that some of the problems I've seen here are not in my future. I also have a Istkmick 50. Use both basically in the same manner and so far, have had no issues. Time will tell! Lol

I also make the welders for nr-r-nr wire welding if anyone is interested. PM Me. But what I like about it most is being able to make my own coils @ what ever ohm and wire value I choose, not what you can get!

I will definitely let you know if something happens to either units. Thanks for everyone's input.

 

[cmangoboogie]

Glad I found this thread. I've had my Smok for about 2 months now, yesterday was my first try with the temp control.

Up until now I'd bought the mod purely for Battery life ,wattage and price.

Well I grabbed a nickel coil from local B&M yesterday for my otherwise not used useless subtank mini.

It's pretty cool to mess around with but as someone stated above it it's no cloud machine. Especially considering it's a .15 ohm coil. And 5$ @THE b&m wth!


I'll continue to do research and try out this coil (while it lasts) .

 

[TheBloke]

You may as well just use a Kanthal coil instead of Ni200 - with the Smok m80's "temp control" it doesn't make any difference.

 

[AnsonJames]

Don't know what this mod is even doing in the Temp control section.

 

[TheBloke]

Agreed - it was put up before we knew for sure it was a fraud.

Interestingly Smok have just announced the BTCube 2 or some such name which appears to have the real deal. I wonder (hope) if they will be affected by people thinking it's going to have the same crap as this one.

 

[AnsonJames]

Smok have been making flaky and unreliable mods since the Vmax - don't see why they would change anything now.

 

[Twendt]

Should we assume we won't see anymore firmware update besides the one we got?

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[tony7432]

when i bought mines a few months ago it came installed with version 007 i cant find much info about it cause the latest on smoks website is 0006 but mine says 007

 

[TheBloke]

Should we assume we won't see anymore firmware update besides the one we got?

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Yes I am sure they will never update it again. They've moved on to new mods now, the Koopor Mini and XCube 2. And the Treebox which is basically the same as the Koopor internally I think.

 

[raylee]

I know well enough if I'm going to have a dry hit.

This is my point exactly! If you don't know that you are about going to get a dry hit, then you deserve it. Are we idiots here. You can't tell the flavor is changing???? HELLO![/QUOTE]

Very well said. I had the first version of the M80 and I have not bother upgrading and I find that it works fine even with the original software. I think the TC thing is being exploited by the high profit making mod makers.They have their panel of reviewers that will always condemn anything cheap. In most cases, the really good values ones are the ones that gets the most stick cos these are the ones that can put them out of business.Less than $50 for an 80watt, it is a steal even now. TC is bonus.
I do not see any relevance of the cotton burning test to vaping. Who vapes a dry cotton. Are we born yesterday like some of the PAID reviwers who are worried they will not get any more FREE stuff.. Even people of my generation who have been call names because I do not how to post a video to claim a problematic mod knows that we need juice to vape. The problem is certain groups are so pro evolv chipsets that they think the way evolv function is the gospel truth of TC. I have the VS DNA40, Vaporflask DNA40, SXmini M class and the M80 and a whole lot of other mods. All my mods and tanks are PAID for.
I have enjoyed my M80 since the first day I got it. I would say this is the BEST value mod in my collection. The TC just function differently from the Evolv. I personally think it is definitely better than the Vaporshark first gen DNA40, for those who bought the DNA 40s end of last year will know what I talking about and the rave that the reviewers talk about evolv and VS. I take care of my mods but the finishing on the VS is so bad that it is the worst looking mod in my collection now, and I have the condom on it most of the time. M80 still looks new. TC Dna fires high than holds till temp reach. M80 fires low to high. Either way it works, like it or not is up to preference. The cotton last twice as long in the M80. In my 5+ years of vaping, never once have I ever vape dry cotton or is this the latest trend in vaping. VAPE DRY Cotton.
Sorry, will continue late, got some errand to run.

 

[Mikedin]

when i bought mines a few months ago it came installed with version 007 i cant find much info about it cause the latest on smoks website is 0006 but mine says 007

I have this version also (0007) and have heard of a 0007-1 update but not on their website so I did not try it does anybody know any info about this newer update version?

 

[TheBloke]

I have this version also (0007) and have heard of a 0007-1 update but not on their website so I did not try it does anybody know any info about this newer update version?

Very minimal, all it does is add one extra warning message. I think it adds the message SHORT. Before that, a short would show CHECK ATOMIZER, now it will show SHORT. Useful I suppose, but not at all exciting.

 

[cobalt327]

I'm led to believe the only diff between firmware version V0006-1 and the original firmware version V0006 is "SHORTED" vs. "CHECK ATOMIZER". So why bother?

If I'd have paid full retail for this, I might feel a bit cheated. And if it was bought solely or even mostly because it had TC, I certainly would be ....... But that said, it's not a bad mod (and a steal at $25.00 slightly/lightly used) as long as the janky TC isn't a deal breaker.

But in the end, should Smok be held accountable for the TC being such an utter fail or do they get a pass because after all, the mod WAS cheap even if it never claimed to have TC?

 

[billherbst]

Many TC mods have wonky implementations of temp control. That's understandable, given the newness of TC chip technology, plus the wild west nature of this marketplace. That said, SMOK's offering of the XPro M80 Plus as a "temp control" device was particularly egregious, since the TC was ridiculous and didn't really work at all. (By contrast, SMOK's current 60W TC box is pretty well thought out and a contender in the crowded field of TC mods.)

No, I wouldn't give SMOK a pass for their foolishness about temp control on the M80 Plus, but it's still our responsibility as consumers in this marketplace to separate the wheat from the chaff. At close-out prices, the M80 Plus seems to me an acceptable product as a straight wattage-mode 80-watt box with ample battery power (assuming, of course, that one doesn't mind LiPo batts and USB-charging). If I were shopping today for a dirt-cheap (25-30 bucks) higher-wattage box, I'd probably lean toward the iStick 100W over the M80 Plus, however.

 

[VCross]

I was actually checking out mine last night after reading this thread mine has the 007-1 update. It came to me like that from the shop I bought it from. As far as the TC goes, everyone knows it's crap but I think what they were trying to do was the "taste control" thing that iJoy did with the Asolo but they just failed miserably at it.

 

[cobalt327]

I was actually checking out mine last night after reading this thread mine has the 007-1 update. It came to me like that from the shop I bought it from. As far as the TC goes, everyone knows it's crap but I think what they were trying to do was the "taste control" thing that iJoy did with the Asolo but they just failed miserably at it.

Above, I posted info from their site (http://www.smoktech.com/hotnews/products/x-pro-plus-m80-box-mod-firmware-upgrade-guide) about the difference between rev 6 vs. rev 6.1 (similar to the difference between rev 4/5 and 5.1 BTW). So my question is, what's different between rev 6.1 and rev 7.1?