Where's the "Dislike" button when you need it?
So, let me get this straight, Jman. You're OK with the ANTZ putting your name in a national/international database for a nicotine license. And then you're fine with whatever nefarious purposes they might have for the data, such as using it to screen for employment, health insurance, life insurance, social benefits, taxes, your right to have kids, or to fly on an airplane? Perhaps they can use the chip on that license to track you, so they know exactly where to pick you up when the time comes for the roundup...
Quite apart from that, you would then be OK with them limiting the amount of nicotine you're supposed to get, and slowly turning off the spigot, when they deem you should be able to quit (or die, doesn't really matter to them now, does it?).
That is the biggest pile of steaming bull I've ever heard in my entire life!
THERE ARE NO PROS to a a licensing scheme ONLY CONS! And everybody knows the ANTZ are the biggest cons out there, and if you agree with anything they propose you are a con too.
That's one spin on the cons of the situation.
I think it is farfetched and/or years away from what you are alleging.
To ask me if I'm okay with that, is akin to me saying:
So, let me get this straight. You are okay with ANTZ using the kids to outright ban vaping gear, supplies, juice, usage and all sales everywhere, when licensing could've delayed, or prevented that?
Cause unless you unequivocally agree with my position, that's what you're saying, that you want ANTZ to ban it all!
How's that feel? Spot on with what you are saying? No? Well, then you can relate to how I read your post as if it actually addressed what I was getting at.
As if we don't already have umpteen licenses for other things all of which haven't lead to an Orwellian nightmare that you are trying to pass off as inevitable occurrence from having a vaping license.
I am not saying, nor did I say to let ANTZ be in sole control of licensing, nor even really any control.
The obvious pro to a licensing paradigm is for vendors to make online sales to adults who are pre-determined as eligible buyers, and who have taxation already pre-arranged. Feel free to explore the viable options that exist with what is either known to be coming down the pipeline or what is plausible given the worst case scenario with ANTZ in the picture. To poo poo online sales as not a big deal going forward is, IMO, putting one's head in the sand, crossing fingers and engaging in entirely wishful thinking.
It's not like current system with online sales (or any point of purchase where a cc is used) is void of all your worst case scenario and nefarious intentions going on. Not like insurance carriers don't already have fairly surefire ways to manipulate your livelihood based solely and simply on your use of nicotine. A vaping license isn't going to introduce something into the system that is somehow, magically currently devoid.
To me, a vaping license could be one of those 'reasonable regulation' devices that comes from the vaping community and stays there as managed by vending/manufacturing consortium, with every intention to exclude ANTZ. Get enough licensed vapers in the mix, who have vested interest in ongoing legal sales with full array of flavorings, nicotine content and variety of gear, and I'm thinking we have a lot bigger voice, than 2 million vapers who are disconnected from each other except through vaping forum(s) and CTA's which currently have a method of splitting us up due to state issues not being the same.
While licensing isn't ideal predicament for vapers going forward, I'm yet to hear a solution to the inevitable moment when FDA comes out and says, from this day forth eCigs are now heavily restricted for no other reason than we have no way of knowing how to prevent kids from getting into this given the current marketing / sales paradigm.
. Ha Ha..............part of the Chapman Islands I believe
