Smoktech Dual Coil Cartomizers

[Stownz]

I still use them on the VVs. 3.7 volt mod is fine, but its nice to crank them up a bit. That one day, I was cranking them up to over 7 volts, haha. Its nice to be able to crank them all over the place, verses having to have a PV to dial them in to that sweet spot. I have so many attys laying around, because I absolutely HAD to have 2.0 ohm attys for my non VV mods. Only VV would let me vape a 1.7 or a 2.2 and be happy. I try to crank up an atty and all i get is a mouth full of burnt tire taste. I just want a warmer/harder TH but you can't with a regular carto or atty. Dual coils you can crank up to hit like a truck, or crank down to that sweet mellow mega vapor cig type drag.

 

[Credo]

I still use them on the VVs. 3.7 volt mod is fine, but its nice to crank them up a bit. That one day, I was cranking them up to over 7 volts, haha. Its nice to be able to crank them all over the place, verses having to have a PV to dial them in to that sweet spot. I have so many attys laying around, because I absolutely HAD to have 2.0 ohm attys for my non VV mods. Only VV would let me vape a 1.7 or a 2.2 and be happy. I try to crank up an atty and all i get is a mouth full of burnt tire taste. I just want a warmer/harder TH but you can't with a regular carto or atty. Dual coils you can crank up to hit like a truck, or crank down to that sweet mellow mega vapor cig type drag.

Awesome that you finally found one that works for you.

I'm stalking the mailman now for my first box. I found some rated at 2ohms instead of the usual 1.5. I'm hoping that little extra resistance will make it more 'tweakable' on VV mods that max out at certian amp levels.

Will let ya know how it goes. I found the ones rated a little higher at Nhaler....possible those could let you have a little more and less play on the ProVari settings?

 

[Stownz]

I've noticed the ohm rating goes up a tad as you use them also. I have a few that started out 1.5 and slowly creeped up to 1.8 and allowed me to turn them up higher on the provari.

 

[Phantompigbee5]

I tried all the different types of fill methods but the condom method is the easiest. just sucks the juice right up, no mess. I've always used my ego batts, haven't noticed any unusual draining. It's been a month, love these things!

 

[Credo]

Just got my first sample...it's a clear one.
It measures out at 1.9ohms with a full load of juice (50/50/24mg Honeyville Desert Light).

Darwin tops it out at 5v and shows it pulling around 2.5amps (amps do vary slightly with each drag).
The lowest I can take it is 3.7v pulling around 1.9 amps.

Nice performance at all settings.
An interesting thing about the carto...
Taste and vape is similar across the board with this juice...the only thing that changes at 5v is it sizzles more and is warmer (probably uses more juice)...but the flavor and vapor amount is very consistant across the board.

 

[Stownz]

Just got my first sample...it's a clear one.
It measures out at 1.9ohms with a full load of juice (50/50/24mg Honeyville Desert Light).

Darwin tops it out at 5v and shows it pulling around 2.5amps (amps do vary slightly with each drag).
The lowest I can take it is 3.7v pulling around 1.9 amps.

Nice performance at all settings.
An interesting thing about the carto...
Taste and vape is similar across the board with this juice...the only thing that changes at 5v is it sizzles more and is warmer (probably uses more juice)...but the flavor and vapor amount is very consistant across the board.

That warmth contributes to the TH as well on a lot of mixes. I've been able to drop the nic in a few of my recipes and just substitute volts. Surprising how hard 100%pg 8mg nic juice hits at 7 volts 8)

 

[Credo]

That warmth contributes to the TH as well on a lot of mixes. I've been able to drop the nic in a few of my recipes and just substitute volts. Surprising how hard 100%pg 8mg nic juice hits at 7 volts 8)

No doubt.

With this juice it doesn't really change TH much; however, You're dead on correct that with lots of juices out there, the extra heat can make a BIG difference in TH.

I can't complain about this carto from 3.7v to 5v on Darwin. It's good across the board to me

Different...from dripping, cartridge, CE2, tank, etc...but dern good

"This" particular flavor I think I still like CE2 better (Maybe DC is too good for it)...BUT...I can see the DC being my carto of choice for lots of flavors in my stash Waiting on more of them to try with other juices

 

[Stownz]

Highest I got one on a Darwin before I sold it was 4.5 volts. 12.5 watts I think it was, and I still wanted it to hit harder. Sad to see our beautiful VV mods benched for such a great carto.

 

[six]

Sad to see our beautiful VV mods benched for such a great carto.

I was really close to buying a provari before I found out about the limitations. The Darwin comes close, but falls just short it sounds like. Buzzkill says the buzz will go as far as I want with the DCs, but it looks like he's got some new gear coming soon. I guess I'll be waiting a bit for VV.

 

[Credo]

Highest I got one on a Darwin before I sold it was 4.5 volts. 12.5 watts I think it was, and I still wanted it to hit harder. Sad to see our beautiful VV mods benched for such a great carto.

I'm no EE, but it seems to me like with these things (ProVari and Darwin) being somewhat software based they'll offer up a fix at some point. Maybe a special DC mode that ramps up the amp limits.

 

[speedemon]

I'm no EE, but it seems to me like with these things (ProVari and Darwin) being somewhat software based they'll offer up a fix at some point. Maybe a special DC mode that ramps up the amp limits.

I don't see ware it would need to be cranked up higher i smoked over 2 packs a day and the dc on provari are vary satisfying.

 

[Timothy Cullen]

just my 2 cents on a VMU when i cranked over 4vs it tripped the pcb. i get a lot of heat but ok vapor.

 

[six]

I don't see ware it would need to be cranked up higher

My 5 volt batts come off the charger right close to 5.5v. Those first few pulls on the DCs are perfect. - I have a 6.0v set up too. Two of my three favorite juices scorch pretty easy at 6.0v (fresh off the charger actually closer to 6.5v), but are fine after the batts have drained half way or so when I'm down to 5.8v. So, I'm looking to get somewhere between 5.4 and 5.8v

The benefit is short drags producing nice warm, thick vapor. It's the closest to the analog experience I've found vaping.

The only "drawbacks" I can name for vaping the DCs at that sort of voltage are: Juice consumption is higher. They need to be kept wetter to maintain the flavor.

 

[Stownz]

yep, the shorter drags is the biggest thing. I've never liked sucking on a PV for 10 seconds to get a hit. Really ridiculous aspect of vaping that turns a lot of people off is those crappy long drag times. Try sucking that long on a cig and you would cough your ... off. For some reason though, people will suck an e-cig for insane amounts of time. Not me, I'll crank the volts up, increase the PG, add PGA, or whatever to be able to hit an PV short and sweet and have it hit like a truck.

 

[Rockproof]

Ok, in the interest of saving someone the angst of what I am going through now with a recently aquired Saber Touch VV. Can we collectively determine what VV's the new DC's will work on properly? By properly I mean what you set the volatage at is close to what the VV delivers under load all the way up to lets say 6v. The Saber Touch will fire a DC, but only up to a loaded voltage of 3.6-3.7v regardless of the unloaded voltage setting. If I set it at 4.2v, it delivers a loaded voltage of 3.6. If I set it at 6v, loaded it's 3.6v.

I have a Terminator VV adapter that will fire a DC correctly.

So so far, from this thread, the following will fire a DC correctly (up to 6v loaded):

The Buzz
Terminator Adapter

Any others?

 

[earthpig]

Rock...
You set it to where you don't scorch fluid.
I think your asking an unknown. These dual coils as of yet have shown no evidence of burn under any load I've read unless run dry. It's the juice that breaks down, and scorches, and that's all voltage and juice specific.

I've been running em safe with a standard 510 battery. I won't burn one, guaranteed, unless dry.

Smoked Pork

 

[Rockproof]

Thanks for the feedback earthpig but I think you may have misunderstood what I'm asking. This isn't a question of what temperature is preferable, it's simply a factual and verifiable question about what current VV mods will fire these DC's correctly. With this tester Assembled Volt Indicator or others that will measure loaded voltage, the determination can be made..."what VV mods work correctly?". My sweetspot on the 1.6-1.8ohm DC's is about 4.2v loaded. Sometimes up to 5v loaded or maybe higher once the carto starts aging and you have to ramp up the voltage top maintain the same hit.

 

[mwa102464]

These are now available in different ohm cartos, I saw them at madvapes in 4ohm 5ohm 6ohm I believe now so this makes them more worth using on a VV MOD in my opinion, the stock LR Cartos just burn to hot also in my opinion at higher voltages, so upping the ohms was well worth while doing.

 

[Rockproof]

MWA, what's up dude?

 

[Rockproof]

MWA,

I looked on Mad Vapes site and the only Dual Coils I saw were 3.2ohm or 1.6ohm split. Am I missing something?