BCB: dreamy is definitely the word. It is not really like a nic rush...much warmer and almost intoxicating. Even at 12 mg, the effect of tingly/relaxed forehead is strong. Never got that from a juice before. Only get that from a cigar or several smokes. Of course its a bit hard to mentally remove the CO effect, which is certainly dominant when smoking. But this tells me that there is far more to smoking than CO and nic. Snus does not do the forehead thing to me at all, although it does shut down cig cravings. In fact, this forehead feeling I get is almost the same as eating very hot peppers...feels almost on the verge of sweating above the brow.
One thing I am finding is I cannot vape this continually, even as 12 mg. I have zero issues with chain-vaping 18 mg all day long, but this WTA fills you up fast! I think I will make a 6 mg juice from it and see how that does...tomorrow...hehe.
Kin: I think you may be right about the relative amount of MAOIs in WTA vape compared to smoke. Of course, only GC-MS will tell us what is really in it, and then we would have to do the same with tobacco smoke (not tobacco itself), but the physiological effect I feel is profound.
Outside of smoking way too many cigs in a short time, which would include lots of CO poisoning effects too, if you have ever had Gauloise rolling tobacco, which is very strong and heady, or inhaled a cigar or strong pipe tobacco for a while, that is what I feel.
Hitt: I find it interesting that WTA and snus each kill cig cravings for me far better than all-nic juice. And yet the feeling I get from those two are totally different. I do not feel like I've smoked with snus, and yet the craving is gone and I do feel "full" or "satiated". WTA is definitely like I've smoked strong tobacco, as I state above. And yet the theory was we are getting a similar balance of alks with snus and WTA.
I love it when the more you experience and learn, the less you find out you know.
TV: I am wondering if the pipe tobacco would have lead to the same WTA juice if DVap had used his current method. I know that what he does now removes much of the coloration compounds first, and then the WTAs in a subesquent step. That said, I am also wondering what else in pipe tobacco, which is about as processed, fermented, adulterated as tobacco gets, comes along for the ride, like nitrosamines and other junk.
Anyone know if NAS is fermented? And if so, DVap, will any nitrosamines, which are produced in fermentation, get "flipped out" with acid or base? I PMed you with similar thoughts, so sorry for the repeat.
