So Confused : Need Guidance.

[ducaduca]

Hey guys,

I'm thinking about buying a box mod setup. And have really no idea what's going on and its frustrating.

The box mods I'm looking at are:

joyetech E-grip
e-leaf Mini i-stick or i-stick 20w

I just want something small that I can carry in my pocket when going out. I'm not a heavy smoker, when I was smoking real cigarettes...a pack would last me 3 days.

Here are my questions:

If I decide to go with the E-leaf...I want the shortest tank/Dripper set up. Something similar to this..

or this would be even better

Q1: How do I know what tank/dripper setup will fit any certain device?

Q2: When carrying around a box mod...do you take off the tank/dripper? Do you have to worry about leakage?

Q3: I've read that coils need to be replaced...How do I know what coils I need?

Q4: What's the deal with E-Juice and pg/vg....thicker or thinner?


Basically...Id like to make a purchase soon but I have no idea what I need to be setup for a while and where to get it.


Thanks guys...I need all the help I can get...so if its easier to PM me...please do.

 

[suprtrkr]

In general 510 threaded atomizers of any type will fit on 510 threaded mods of any type. That doesn't mean they will work well, but they will fit.

You can take the atty off the mod or not, as pleases you. Yes, with a dripper it's going to leak through the airholes or out the drip tip. Most people don't carry them around, or vape them dry before they pocket them. If you're looking for pocket carry, I think you'll be better off with a tank, no matter what.

If you get a tank, the coils will be marked for the tank you have. If you get a dripper, you'll have to build your own coils and wick them yourself, or pay somebody to do it at the vape shop. You probably don't want to go there, another reason you want a tank rather than a dripper. When you replace them is simple: when they stop working or start to taste bad. There's more to it of course, but that's the basics.

Regarding juice composition, in general PG carries the flavor and makes throat hit, while VG makes clouds. You are going to have to test your juices for yourself to see what kind of combination you like. I'd say start out 50/50. If it's too harsh, go up on VG.

 

[dbrandt01]

I'd say no to the Joyetech eGrip, from personal experience although a lot of people seem to have good luck with them. I did, and Joyetech won't do anything to fix it when they (had 2) only lasted 6 days each before they broke.

I don't think you'd like the price for that second tank if you got the authentic, I remember it being around $140 for that square looking tank.

The majority of devices now are 510 threaded, so they fit in a lot of the devices.

I never take a tank or RDA off when I carry something around, but I don't carry them in my pocket either. Tanks shouldn't leak, but they can. RDAs will leak if you drip and pocket it right after.

Most tanks have the same branded coils. Sigelei Elite uses Sigelei Elite tanks. Subtank mini uses subtank occ coils and so on.

E-Juice is hard for us to recommend. I personally prefer more VG. Denser clouds, less throat hit. PG would add more flavor and more throat hit. This could depend on your setup, some tanks don't do higher VG juices as well.

 

[gandymarsh]

There is an iStick mini 20 watt available too. Not many vendors have them but it seems they are available here iStick Mini 20w by Eleaf/iSmoka - Origin Vape

For a tank, the Eleaf GS Air MS is very short and would work well with the iStick mini 20w. It would probably work with the 10 watt mini but might not perform as well. Unfortunately Originvape doesn't have them but they are available here Eleaf GS Air MS - Eleaf Tanks - Eleaf - Clearomizers Tanks

They also have the iStick mini 10 watt Eleaf iStick Mini 10W Base Kit - 10W, 20W - Eleaf iStick - Electronic Mods

 

[Darth Omerta]

I would recommend the Cool Fire 4. Its a pretty great little mod, similar in price (at least where i am) to the iStick and in my opinion its a better mod.

It appears that you are newer to vaping so i dont recommend anything thats rebuildable just yet. No RDA until youve got some experience.

A good starter tank would be the Aspire Nautilus. I loved it when i was starting out. Lots of airflow, good coils that are easy to change and are carried just about everywhere. Just a great little tank,

 

[Sir2fyablyNutz]

I'd suggest buying a mod of at least 30 Watts. Anything under 30 watts and you really can't explore sub ohms without a new mod. Plus there usually isn't any difference in size between a 20 and 30 watt.

Q1 Answered above, any 510 threaded tank.
Q2 I never take off the tank when carrying it around. The Nautilus Mini was and is my most trusted tank for not leaking.
Q3 95% of tanks take different coils, you just research (or ask in here) to find the correct ones
Q4 I'd recommend 50/50 e juice to start. If you're looking to become a cloud factory you want high VG. PG is more of the flavor carrier and throat hit. 50/50 is the best of both, mild to no throat hit with lots of flavor and decent vapor production.

I'd recommend the iStick 30 watt and Nautilus Mini. Both are high quality and time tested.

 

[ducaduca]

Okay...so I'm a lil more confused now.

So is a "Tank" also called an "atomizer"? (The glass part?)

I thought a "dripper" was just the nipple part? Where you take the drag from?

 

[suprtrkr]

A "tank" is an atomizer- a juice delivery system-- that carries a supply of juice on board. The second one you picture up top is a tank. A "dripper" is an atomizer that does not carry a juice supply aboard, being instead replaced periodically as it is used. Your top photograph is a dripper. The part you take the drag from is called the "drip tip."

 

[ducaduca]

Thank you so much for the clear up there Suprtrkr!

So the Joyetech E-grip would be suitable and NOT drip in my pocket...correct?

 

[suprtrkr]

I can't speak to the e-grip, I have never had one. I have heard both good and bad reports. It would not be the unit I would select in that class. There is some potential for leakage in any kind of atomizer, but tanks tend to be better at avoiding it than drippers. Tanks are supposed to hold a liquid supply for future use. Drippers are supposed to be gotten wet and then vaped dry, not really stored with a lot of liquid inside. They don't even pretend to be sealed; they're just a hollow cover with holes in it over the top of the deck where the coil and wick is. If you put juice in it and it falls over, the liquid will run out of the airholes, if it has them, or the drip tip. Tanks are at least supposed to hold the liquid inside. Some are better than others. And even the best designed and maintained tank will leak under certain conditions, like a change in ambient air pressure. If you want a specific recommendation, go with the iStick 30 mod and the Aspire Mini Nautilus tank.

 

[edyle]

i'd say get the istick, and an rda.

 

[USMCotaku]

I'd second the coolfire IV, innokin make good dependable products, and I've seen them online for $35
That paired with an isub tank, also from innokin. Cheapest sub ohm tanks I know of, plus they are making 2.0 ohm coils for it now, if sub ohm isn't your thing.
Sent with one hand, the other is busy vaping.

 

[ducaduca]

Thanks guys....The only real reason I'm leaning towards the E-grip is because it is alot shorter in height.

And I know...whatever box mod I get..will spend a lot of time in my back or front pocket.

Whereas Id be afraid the tank may snap off or stick out of my pockets....does that make sense or a valid reason?

I plan on getting the new E-grip OLED which can go up to 30 watts.

 

[USMCotaku]

Thanks guys....The only real reason I'm leaning towards the E-grip is because it is alot shorter in height.

And I know...whatever box mod I get..will spend a lot of time in my back or front pocket.

Whereas Id be afraid the tank may snap off or stick out of my pockets....does that make sense or a valid reason?

I plan on getting the new E-grip OLED which can go up to 30 watts.

Unless you wish to learn how to build coils and get the adapter, the egrip uses carto's, while some are perfectly happy with them, I never was.....go down to s local vape shop, and see if they have any testers using carto tanks, and try one out before you decide

 

[USMCotaku]

And I have never had a tank break off on my mods.... Even in my pockets
Sent with one hand, the other is busy vaping.

 

[josdanarm]

There are plenty of small boxes out now I still use an ipv mini v2(def not the smallest of minis) and a goblin mini. While I wouldn't recommend a goblin mini to a new vaper as an only choice I may lean towards maybe the sub box kit and a clone rda to practice coils with. The vector rda may be an option to look into top air flow makes it much harder to leak.

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[Rob.Gee]

May I suggest a reo mod? Compact little device that can use either an rda or carto thing?

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[VapNMirrors]

IStick 20W with Nautilus Mini (steel reinforced glass upgrade and Atlantis1 drip tip).

This is a great, virtually indestructible, setup and is very small (photo angle makes it look tall but isn't) and easily pocketable.

I eventually drilled out the largest air hole and it's even better but still has modest juice consumption.

 

[USMCotaku]

The problem with the istick 20w is the 510 threading is soft.... Really easy to strip out.... The later versions switched to stainless steel threading, and are much more durable
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[VapNMirrors]

The problem with the istick 20w is the 510 threading is soft.... Really easy to strip out.... The later versions switched to stainless steel threading, and are much more durable
Sent with one hand, the other is busy vaping.

Yeah, though I've had no issues, I'd get the 30W if buying today- just for the added versatility.