So do coils last longer with temperature control?

[Shirtbloke]

My 20w Istick, after 8 months of everyday use, finally stripped it's threads so I've just got the 40W TC version which came supplied with a GS Air tank fitted with a nickel coil (actually a TECC Curve with CS air tank but they're just rebranded).

The Kanthal coils in my previous device used to last me about 2 weeks, so will the temperature control look after the coils better? Because if they do the 40W should pay for itself by me paying less for coils in the long run. Anybody got any hard figures on this?

 

[vaperXant]

It depends on the juice mostly, but I have noticed a increase in coil life with nickel. Titanium is suppose to be the best for coil life, but I cant tell u for sure as I just got my Ti in a few days ago. So far its really good

 

[footbag]

In my experience, they give better flavor then the regular non-TC coils throughout their lifetime. The flavor starts to mute at about the same rate as the non-TC's, but it's still much better. So you really have to decide whether you toss the coils when the flavor begins to mute, or whether you use them longer. If you just want better flavor then non-TC, you'll get it longer. IF you want the best flavor TC can produce, I'd expect you'll be replacing them at the same rate.

 

[Shirtbloke]

In my experience, they give better flavor then the regular non-TC coils throughout their lifetime. The flavor starts to mute at about the same rate as the non-TC's, but it's still much better. So you really have to decide whether you toss the coils when the flavor begins to mute, or whether you use them longer. If you just want better flavor then non-TC, you'll get it longer. IF you want the best flavor TC can produce, I'd expect you'll be replacing them at the same rate.

Interesting thought. I got a couple of free bottles of juice with it, so that's what I'm trying it out with at the moment. I'll have to try it with my usual all day vape and see how the flavour compares.

 

[becosemsaida]

ADV: 0.10 Ohm, NI AWG 30,50/50 raspberry/menthol juice and going strong for two weeks without re-wicking or looking at it. As soon as it starts muting the flavour i will make a new one.

(there's a learning curve to it, first coils i build lasted only for a few days)

Hope it helps you,

Beco

 

[Shirtbloke]

ADV: 0.10 Ohm, NI AWG 30,50/50 raspberry/menthol juice and going strong for two weeks without re-wicking or looking at it. As soon as it starts muting the flavour i will make a new one.

(there's a learning curve to it, first coils i build lasted only for a few days)

Hope it helps you,

Beco

I'm probably not going to bother building coils for it - I've tried rebuilding GS Air coils and never had much success with them - and I read that building coils using nickel is even more difficult. I'll be happy if the pre built ones last longer than 2 weeks.

 

[becosemsaida]

Well it takes some practise to get it right and i'm NO expert for sure but if you remember that we started waisting wire with kanthal when we started to build our own coils this isn't diferent......

Just do it, re do it..... once again and you will get the hang of it....

I also have a Ego mega one tank that came with the Evic VT and i must have rebuild it 50X before getting it right, I just didn't like the premade coils that came with it...... Ok, waisted some wire, so what?????

beco

 

[Shirtbloke]

I just don't have the patience any more to keep retrying. I must be getting old!

 

[EverPresentNoob]

Heres a simple way to make nice even spaced coils...



Just leave the screw in the coil as you mount it in the rda, then position where you want and gently unscrew it.

 

[Shirtbloke]

That's interesting. Never thought to wind coils on a screw - I usually use a thin screwdriver.

 

[UncleChuck]

I'm not sure about the pre-made coils, but all my tanks with Nickle builds are lasting a crazy long time without a re-wick, I have two goblins, two goblin minis, and two orchids set up with NI200 and I have not re-wicked a single one of them yet, and they are all going on 40-60mls of juice at this point and performance is still great. Coils look a bit dirty but they aren't getting any sort of heavy gunk buildup like with Kanthal.

It seems with TC (or at least with the temp I run, 480F) that the coil gunk doesn't actually burn onto the wire like it does with kanthal. If I take a q-tip and very gently rub it across the coils any crap on there will instantly get stuck to the q-tip and lift easily off the coil, showing perfectly shiny silver wire underneath. Compared to a kanthal build where the gunk needs to be scraped off.

So I would suspect the prebuilt NI200 coils will last longer than the prebuilt Kanthal coils would, but it's not really the wire wearing out or anything, just the cotton getting dirty to the point of ruining the vape.

 

[EverPresentNoob]

I was having a heck of a time getting nice even spaced coils. I wa wrapping a 2 strand paralegal coil and then unscrewing the two wires into separate coils and then had an AH HA moment and tried the screw. Worked great. Now I have one that is about 3.5mm and one that is 2.5mm in my coil building kit. Just used the 3.5ish one to build 28G 7 wrap dual coils for my darkhorse and it came out to .07ohm.

 

[Shirtbloke]

One side effect I've noticed so far is that while I'm going through the battery quicker than my 20W with kanthal (even though the 40W battery is a little bigger), I'm only using maybe half to two thirds the juice than I was before. Must be some greater efficiencies with TC.

 

[BababooeyHTJ]

With nickel I just rebuild the coil every time that I rewick. Not a big deal with a single coil tank.

I never found a good quick way to clean the coil like you can do with kanthal.

 

[EverPresentNoob]

One side effect I've noticed so far is that while I'm going through the battery quicker than my 20W with kanthal (even though the 40W battery is a little bigger), I'm only using maybe half to two thirds the juice than I was before. Must be some greater efficiencies with TC.

well with Kanthal the coil is firing the entire time getting hotter and thus vaporizing juice more and more as you hold down the button. With TC the coil is pulsing so it is not vaporizing as much juice or at least not as fast as with Kanthal. At least that's my thoughts.

Popping off the top of my RDA and holding the button on my TC build I see the vapor production pulsing as TC cuts power rather than a steadily increasing amount as it does in my Kanthal non-TC builds. Hence why I think the way i do. But then I was raised near high tension power lines so my thinking may just be totally screwed up to begin with.... YMMV

 

[Shirtbloke]

well with Kanthal the coil is firing the entire time getting hotter and thus vaporizing juice more and more as you hold down the button. With TC the coil is pulsing so it is not vaporizing as much juice or at least not as fast as with Kanthal. At least that's my thoughts.

Popping off the top of my RDA and holding the button on my TC build I see the vapor production pulsing as TC cuts power rather than a steadily increasing amount as it does in my Kanthal non-TC builds. Hence why I think the way i do. But then I was raised near high tension power lines so my thinking may just be totally screwed up to begin with.... YMMV

You're probably right about that. It's an unexpected bonus that I'm using less liquid - helps keep the costs down. Yes I'm cheap.

 

[EverPresentNoob]

I hear you on the cheap part. I just jumped to DIY liquid... Saving all sorts of monies!

 

[Shirtbloke]

Yes you wonder how some juice companies have the nerve to charge what they do when you realise you can DIY for a tenth the cost.

 

[GWAR666]

Heres a simple way to make nice even spaced coils...



Just leave the screw in the coil as you mount it in the rda, then position where you want and gently unscrew it.

....I would love to see a picture of the coil after you unscrew it

 

[KenD]

....I would love to see a picture of the coil after you unscrew it

I use the same method and it indeed results in perfectly spaced coils (at least with tempered nickel).

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