So I Wrote An E-Mail Tonight......

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WillieB69

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I was sitting here reading through all of the posts and articles regarding the potential FDA ban on electronic cigarettes and decided I had to voice my own opinion to our government. I really doubt it will make a difference but I felt I had to make my voice heard by somebody and emailed the FDA's Center for tobacco Products.

WillieB69 said:
I do not understand the FDA's witch hunt over electronic cigarettes. This is a device that can help thousands of people addicted to nicotine find a safer alternative than using tobacco products. My wife and I have both used these devices for a little over a month now and have completely stopped smoking regular tobacco cigarettes altogether. Considering the number of chemicals and carcinogens in regular cigarettes, I would think there would be more of a drive to ban them. Not a device that eliminates almost all of the chemicals save for the nicotine and the base mixtures used to make the liquids inhaled with these devices.

I know there is some concern over the ingredients used to make the liquids used in electronic cigarettes but Propylene Glycol is already an additive in several foods. If it is not healthy for electronic cigarettes, why is it approved for food use? Also, liquids for electronic cigarettes can be made with Vegetable Glycerin which is also used as a food additive. From what I have read, these substances are FAR less harmful than anything in regular tobacco products, so why aren't you trying to ban the use of tobacco instead?

The only option left is to use approved pharmaceutical methods to quit smoking. Does the FDA really look at the list of potential side effects before they approve a drug? It's hard to believe that they do considering the side effects of some medications they have approved for the public's use. Despite the fact that many of the drugs used as smoking cessation aids can bring about borderline psychotic episodes and pose potentially serious health risks, they are still readily available to the public. Yet the FDA is ready to ban the sale and use of electronic cigarettes?

I will agree that there should be some regulation over the sale of electronic cigarettes and the nicotine juice used in them for safety's sake. HOWEVER, I cannot understand why the FDA and several states are calling for outright bans on the use of these devices. Regardless of the risks as the market is now, they are still far safer than regular tobacco products or pharmaceutical solutions and they are also considerably less expensive. Of course, I'm sure our government will figure out a way to fix that by taxing the holy hell out of them once they become regulated.

If you ask me, this whole thing smells of pandering to large special interest groups. More specifically, the tobacco industry and the pharmaceutical companies. Big tobacco doesn't like it because it will make people stop using tobacco products and they will lose money. The big pharmaceutical companies don't like it because it's not a drug they can control like Wellbutrin or Chantix. Since these two are large contributors to our government's deep pockets, it stands to reason that what they want, they will get.

I would get down on my knees and beg that electronic cigarettes not be banned but I feel that would be pointless since we all know who is really lining Uncle Sam's pockets. My tax money isn't a drop in the bucket compared to what the tobacco and pharmaceutical companies are pumping out. In the end, they will most likely win and once again the public will lose out.

The FDA has taken the wrong approach regarding electronic cigarettes and I hope they will reconsider their position on the matter regardless of their motivation. I would like to thank you for your time reading this long winded diatribe even though I doubt that it will have any effect what so ever on the final outcome of the situation. Still, I felt I must speak up and make my opinions known. Thank you again for your time.
 

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I like your points in the email, I bring a lot of them up when people ask why they are trying to ban them in certain states. Good job on this, maybe if every ecf member sent one email per day we could get something done. What I really do not understand is with all these new tobacco products coming out, like disolvables that you suck on for your nicotine(almost like nicotine candy lol) and snus and all the other stuff, why doesn't the big tobacco companies embrace this and come up with some amazing Cmel juice,(I would give it a try, I used to love my cmel lights once upon a time) The two biggest tobacco companies have plenty of money to do the research and hire chemists/mixers and instead of trying to make money on it they go from state to state to try and get them banned. Bugs me, ya know?
 

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Yeah. I got the autobot reply already. "Your letter is very important to us and will be forwarded to the appropriate office to address your concerns. Please do not reply to this email." :glare:

LOL ... well at least you've gotten a reply even if it's the autobot reply. I've sent two email letters to the omnibudsman of the FDA and absolutely no response yet, autobot or otherwise. :grr:


(*Wonder's if she should be watching for the men in black to show up*) :matrix:
 

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The letter was great, we all should send one in to get our opinions known. However, the FDA is looking for scientific proof that it is safe to vape nicotine and nothing harmful is mixed in with the eJuices we are buying. The only good that I see is Quality control being established for the makers of the juice we are buying. A couple of eJuice companies were singled out as NO or poor quality control of making eJuice. The down side is the pricing will probably sky rocket and a Sin Tax will most likely be enforced. Here we go again. More outrageous taxes.
 

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Well, I finally received a real response today. Sounds like a pretty pat answer to me but about what I expected:

FDA said:
Dear William Bannier,
Your message was forwarded to our Division of Drug Information, in the FDA's Center for Drug Evaluation and Research for response. Sharing your concerns and experience with electronic cigarettes is appreciated.

The FDA has not made a decision to remove all electronic cigarettes from the market.

The agency believes that the products identified in the warning letters, and similar products, meet the definition of drug/device combination products with a drug primary mode of action. Consumers may assume these products are safer alternatives to conventional tobacco use, however, FDA is not aware of any evidence to support this view.

Regulation of electronic cigarettes and related products assures appropriate manufacturing controls to determine the amount of nicotine, and any other chemicals present, that are delivered by inhaling the vapors from any given cartridge in any given product.

The agency intends to regulate electronic cigarettes and related products in a manner consistent with its mission of protecting the public health. FDA invites electronic cigarette firms to work in cooperation with the agency toward the goal of assuring that electronic cigarettes sold in the United States are lawfully marketed.

You can find current information about Electronic Cigarettes on our website

Electronic Cigarettes

Best Regards,

BD
Division of Drug Information
Center for Drug Evaluation and Research
Food and Drug Administration

For up-to-date drug information, follow the FDA's Division of Drug Information on Twitter at FDA_Drug_Info

This communication is consistent with 21 CFR 10.85 (k) and constitutes an informal communication that represents my best judgment at this time but does not constitute an advisory opinion, does not necessarily represent the formal position of FDA, and does not bind or otherwise obligate or commit the agency to the views expressed.

Now I have no issues with the FDA regulating e-juices. I think that is an important safety precaution to ensure the quality of e-juices being sold. While I know a majority of American suppliers go out of their way to ensure that it is safe, I'm sure there are still those out there simply looking to turn a fast buck and don't care about the quality of juice they're selling. Under FDA regulation, that would hopefully change. Unfortunately, this would probably involve price increases and taxation. It's give and get, so I suppose we will have to live with that. IF that is what they really are intending to do.

I really don't get how they think they are going to regulate the devices themselves though. Sure, they can regulate anything commercially sold but with all the modders out there and the simplicity of some mods, how do they think they're going to crack down on that??
 

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The government is always going to have their panties in a twist about anything they stand to make money off of. Since tobacco products drive money straight into the pockets of government leaders, they're going to try anything and everything to make sure people KEEP buying them. It sucks that they might ban something that could help so many people just for selfishness and greed. :(

Your letter was great. Maybe if we all sent something like this in, it might make a difference.
 

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The agency intends to regulate electronic cigarettes and related products in a manner consistent with its mission of protecting the public health.

This made me laugh. So, how long will the testing and approval phase take? 10 years? 4.4m US smokers dead, whilst waiting for a way to get off tobacco? Yeah, great way to protect public health.
I guess they always have those miraculous NRTs to use, even though they don't work. At least the FDA has approved those ... because they don't work. Chantix makes you kill yourself. You would be better off taking a cyanide pill, or a course of Avandia. At least you would be guaranteed to quit smoking, being that you will be six foot under.
 
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