So I've decided to mix my own juice

[NU_FTW]

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Yes, I bought the flavors from some UK retailer called chefs flavours. And I don't like that it says "bottled at: Chefs Flavours. I mean, what does it even mean bottled? So it's not original, right? If it's bottled at some UK retailer? If it said bottled "FOR" then maybe manufacturer bottled and labeled specifically for them. But that "AT" doesn't look right to me.

Having Flavors in stock from FW Capella and TFA i can 100% say those labels are jacked. The only reason i could see them re bottling is them ordering in bulk to make shipping easier per oz/ml either way looks shady to me. I always order direct.

 

[ceeceeisme]

But how on earth can it state on the label "May be fatal if swallowed and enters airways"? For the love of God, we do actually inhale this stuff and like someone said here, most e-cigs spit juice and mine sometimes, well not sometimes, more like most of the time spits like hell. So that stuff actually enters my mouth and obviously enters my lungs. What the actual f**k??

I think their point is:

if you tilt your head back and pour the bottle undiluted down your throat, you may get sick

Inawera is highly concentrated - start low.

 

[I'mnotZak]

That's a legit bottle of Inawera flavoring. The EU has more stringent labeling requirements than here in North America.

If vapers knew all the chemicals used in the processing of "food grade" flavoring, most would be vaping unflavored e-liquid.

Really? Please educate me and perhaps the other vapors who apparently don't know what you know.

 

[ceeceeisme]

Really? Please educate me and perhaps the other vapors who apparently don't know what you know.

It would be difficult to "educate" by paraphrasing with some general ideas. It would be much easier for me to direct you to the FDA's GRAS (Generally Recognized As Safe) list of food additives, flavor enhancers, preservatives and other such wonderful chemicals that are wantonly and liberally sprinkled throughout the food supply on every level.

Generally Recognized as Safe (GRAS)

GRAS Substances (SCOGS) Database

The manufacture of artificial "food grade" flavorings is a complex art involving hundreds of chemicals and many processes.

Natural flavorings are somewhat less complex and in many cases are simply pure extracts and/or distillates and/or essential oils, dissolved in ethanol and propylene glycol, heated and then filtered.

When I enrolled in Chemical Engineering I saw what was going on in the food industry and decided to become a Metallurgist.

That being said, I still like my flavors.

 

[englishmick]

Really? Please educate me and perhaps the other vapors who apparently don't know what you know.

I don't recall the details, but a few months ago I read an article about ten chemicals that are legal to use in food preparation in America but not permitted anywhere else in the world because of suspected or known health risks. I think they might have been preservatives and colorings rather than flavorings though.

 

[englishmick]

First of all, hi everyone.

So long story short, I've decided to start mixing my own e-juice because it's like 10x cheaper. I' bought all the things I need online: VG, PG, nicotine solution, flavorings.

Was really excited when I got everything, was ready to start mixing right away. Untill I looked at the back packaging of one of the flavorings. And saw this







































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Any comments or thoughts?

My only thought when I saw this was..f**k no! Ain't mixing this sh*t anymore

Anyway, should I be worried? Because this looks a little bit..unsettling

P.S. And people worry about PG and VG possibly being harmful. Compared to this crap, both of them look like fruit juices to me.

My guess is that what you are seeing is a literal translation of the (Czech Polish ?) warning above it. Maybe they have some crazy warning requirements wherever Inawera lives and are required to add an English translation for export. About the specific chemicals it mentions on the label, there are probably thousands of individual chemicals in an average flavor. You could google the ones it mentions and see if they are actually dangerous. Overall I wouldn't worry too much.

Or you could dribble a little on your knee and see if it eats through your jeans like that molecular acid in Alien. Be prepared to tear off your contaminated clothing and run down to the river though.

 

[I'mnotZak]

It would be difficult to "educate" by paraphrasing with some general ideas. It would be much easier for me to direct you to the FDA's GRAS (Generally Recognized As Safe) list of food additives, flavor enhancers, preservatives and other such wonderful chemicals that are wantonly and liberally sprinkled throughout the food supply on every level.

Generally Recognized as Safe (GRAS)

GRAS Substances (SCOGS) Database

The manufacture of artificial "food grade" flavorings is a complex art involving hundreds of chemicals and many processes.

Natural flavorings are somewhat less complex and in many cases are simply pure extracts and/or distillates and/or essential oils, dissolved in ethanol and propylene glycol, heated and then filtered.

When I enrolled in Chemical Engineering I saw what was going on in the food industry and decided to become a Metallurgist.

That being said, I still like my flavors.

Thank you for the cliff note education and for the FDA GRAS links. When it comes to engineering, this life long sales leader can use every ounce of education. I plan to review the information for general knowledge however, my take is that I am way ahead of the game using flavorings in my mixes compared to 1.5 packs a day of the fire sticks that consumed my life for almost 32 years!

 

[ceeceeisme]

Thank you for the cliff note education and for the FDA GRAS links. When it comes to engineering, this life long sales leader can use every ounce of education. I plan to review the information for general knowledge however, my take is that I am way ahead of the game using flavorings in my mixes compared to 1.5 packs a day of the fire sticks that consumed my life for almost 32 years!

That too is the way I look at my friend! No matter how you examine it, it's way safer than smoking.

 

[Bunnykiller]

the lemon label even says "aromatic" ( aromat) ... arouma therapy type stuff. not for vaping!

 

[Boodaddy]

Limonene
Limonene - Wikipedia

Beta-Pinene
beta-Pinene - Wikipedia

Citral
Citral - Wikipedia

Terpinolene
Terpinene - Wikipedia

Geraniol
Geraniol - Wikipedia

Yea... I'll take a pass on vaping that suff lol.

 

[Canadian_Vaper]

The only reason i could see them re bottling is them ordering in bulk

Yeap, plenty of places will buy by the gallon and repackage, very common..

 

[ceeceeisme]

Limonene
Limonene - Wikipedia

Beta-Pinene
beta-Pinene - Wikipedia

Citral
Citral - Wikipedia

Terpinolene
Terpinene - Wikipedia

Geraniol
Geraniol - Wikipedia

Yea... I'll take a pass on vaping that suff lol.

If you have ever vaped something with lemon or other citrus flavor in it, you've already vaped them.

These are all natural constituents derived from organic sources so you've probably eaten them too, in one form or another.

And interestingly enough, some of these are are added to cigarettes to improve flavor as well.

Another thing that should be pointed out, these are food grade flavors, not vape grade flavors. Vape grade flavors don't exist yet .

 

[Bonskibon]

This is what's in cigarettes: List of additives in cigarettes - Wikipedia List to long to post so think I'll stick with vaping.

 

[ceeceeisme]

This is what's in cigarettes: List of additives in cigarettes - Wikipedia List to long to post so think I'll stick with vaping.

What that wiki fails to mention is this list of chemicals is also used in the manufacture of food grade flavoring and additives, not just cigarettes. In fact, there are some 2000+ chemicals used in the production of natural and artificial food grade flavorings.

Again, the vast majority are naturally based and derived from organic sources.
Not all, but most.

Food for thought!

 

[Tomas77]

All right, after carefully considering, I decided to try to mix some capella and flavor west. Now, can anyone tell me, what % of flavour should I aim for? I was thinking using 5% for both capella and flavor west. I'd like my flavor to be on a stronger side.Obviously gonna avoid Inawera this time.

Thoughts?

 

[DaveP]

I'd want to know someone who vaped that and survived before I tried it. There's comfort in reviews on DIY flavor sites! Those people will tell you how it worked out.

 

[dobroeutro]

All right, after carefully considering, I decided to try to mix some capella and flavor west. Now, can anyone tell me, what % of flavour should I aim for? I was thinking using 5% for both capella and flavor west. I'd like my flavor to be on a stronger side.Obviously gonna avoid Inawera this time.

Thoughts?

What flavors are you thinking about mixing? That info would make it easier to provide some help...

 

[Capt.shay]

All right, after carefully considering, I decided to try to mix some capella and flavor west. Now, can anyone tell me, what % of flavour should I aim for? I was thinking using 5% for both capella and flavor west. I'd like my flavor to be on a stronger side.Obviously gonna avoid Inawera this time.

Thoughts?

If what you pictured is all you have then you may be disappointment. Most fruits are not all that good on their own and often require a base such as Vanilla custard, sweet cream, etc. My general rule for Flavor West is usually around 12% and Capella much lower around 3-4%. Those are just ballpark though.

 

[Tomas77]

What flavors are you thinking about mixing? That info would make it easier to provide some help...

I have blueberry, kiwi strawberry and raspberry v2 from Capella and cherry berry from Flavor west.

I just read that for Capella blueberry is recommended 7-9%, for raspberry it's 8-10% and I have no idea about Flavor west. But when I smell it, it feels way stronger than Capella.

 

[Tomas77]

If what you pictured is all you have then you may be disappointment. Most fruits are not all that good on their own and often require a base such as Vanilla custard, sweet cream, etc. My general rule for Flavor West is usually around 12% and Capella much lower around 3-4%. Those are just ballpark though.

I disagree. Because I can't stand flavours other than fruit and berries. I like my vape to be refreshing.

I recently tried strawberry whip from Element and couldn't found it to be more disgusting. Then I tried fresh squeeze which is pure orange and it was whole new experience.

Basically, all the fruit and berry flavours that I tried, I had no complains. Even the crap ones weren't that bad and were vapable.