So who else is anticipating the birth of their Chuck in the next few weeks?

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schaedj

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Doh! I got my chuck (via classifieds) in the mail yesterday. Today, I was showing off and dropped it on the sidewalk! 8-o Where did it hit? On the switch, of course! The bad news is, the switch is broken. The good news is that it stuck in the "on" position. Now the tail cap is a really slow acting switch :p.
Twist twist twist twist inhale....inhale...inhale...untwist untwist untwist untwist.... Repeat.

At least this will keep me going until the one I ordered shows up...
 

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That sux, but at least it still kinda works, and you have another on the way. I bet you can get that switch fixed once you get your new one. I have not seen a chuck first hand yet, I wonder how hard it would be to replace your own switch? It would be great if these could be maintained by the user, once parts fail or get accidentally broken.
 

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I have a question. What is a low voltage atty? Sorry to bug you pros but I don't know, and where are they sold?

I think you mean Low Resistance...

Basically Low Resistance is like using lube for electricity... Allows it to flow better through the contact point. Thus stimulating a high voltage and creating more heat, when in fact it is not a higher voltage. Mainly the idea behind this is allowing the user to have lower voltage batteries and still have the benefits of high voltage. The only real use I see for this is miniaturizing PV's. I mean yes you could use it, but why when you can kick it up to 6-7.2volts? I know my analogy is gruesome, yet I like it and sticking to it.

nhaler has them

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schaedj

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That sux, but at least it still kinda works, and you have another on the way. I bet you can get that switch fixed once you get your new one. I have not seen a chuck first hand yet, I wonder how hard it would be to replace your own switch? It would be great if these could be maintained by the user, once parts fail or get accidentally broken.

Actually, I couldn't resist. I have to know how things work. screwed the cap off and found the switch inside. Fortunately, I work in an office / research site where they have all kinds of components, and they had a (smaller, but same rating) pushbutton switch which I had one of the techs solder on and fit back into the hole. The plunger is a little longer, but the switch is smaller, so the net is about the same. Actually has me thinking I might be able to design a locking cap to go over the switch (Two position plastic button to keep me from accidentally pushing it when it's in my jacket pocket.

Anyhow, no more twisting, just pure vaping. Ahhhhhhh!
 

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Thanks Trunus, and yes I meant low resistance. It may have to wait, I have ordered extra 510's to stockpile in anticipation of little chuck.
My ordering of PV supplies has to slow down for now. Unless I win the powerball.:D

My spending is over for the time being... Albeit, I feel your pain! All I have had is my V4L UU kit. So I took the liberty of jumping into this Chuck deal head first... 274 bucks later I have everything I need... RCR123's, 18650, two chargers, 4 pack of 510 atties, and a T-Tip. Everything except Chucks. Thank all that is holy for income tax.
 

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Actually, I couldn't resist. I have to know how things work. screwed the cap off and found the switch inside. Fortunately, I work in an office / research site where they have all kinds of components, and they had a (smaller, but same rating) pushbutton switch which I had one of the techs solder on and fit back into the hole. The plunger is a little longer, but the switch is smaller, so the net is about the same. Actually has me thinking I might be able to design a locking cap to go over the switch (Two position plastic button to keep me from accidentally pushing it when it's in my jacket pocket.

Anyhow, no more twisting, just pure vaping. Ahhhhhhh!


Oh a cap for the switch would be nice. Prob just fashion a nice rubber ring and a little cap and viola :)
 

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I think you mean Low Resistance...

Basically Low Resistance is like using lube for electricity... Allows it to flow better through the contact point. Thus stimulating a high voltage and creating more heat, when in fact it is not a higher voltage. Mainly the idea behind this is allowing the user to have lower voltage batteries and still have the benefits of high voltage. The only real use I see for this is miniaturizing PV's. I mean yes you could use it, but why when you can kick it up to 6-7.2volts? I know my analogy is gruesome, yet I like it and sticking to it.

nhaler has them

Here

Well a good reason for the why when you can just kick it up to 6V or 7.4V is because running stacked batteries to get 6V or 7.4V exceeds the max drain rate of the batteries (unless you're using high drain cr123a LiMN batteries for 7.4V)...which can do all sorts of wonderful things to your batteries like cause the overdischarge protection PCB in the batteries to trip, severely overstress the batteries reducing their service life, or cause the unprotected ones to overheat and explode..
So if running a LR atty on a 3.7V battery gets you the same heat and vapor but in a safer senario...the question is why would you want to stack batteries and overstress them to get the same effect and possibly cause yourself problems...

hmm the max drain rate of tenergy 3V LiFePo batteries is <.55A
max drain rate of AW 3.7V CR123a (750 mAh) is <1.5A (and ultrafires are worse)
ultrafire 3.0V CR123a (880 mAh) is <1.32A
ultrafire 3.7V CR123a (880 mAh) is <1.32A
and for fairness
AW 3.7V 18650 (2200mAh) is <4.4A
AW 3.7V high-drain CR123a (550mAh) is <4.4A

best case senario Amperage draw:
at 6V with a 4.5Ω atty....1.33A (at least twice the max drain rate of the LiFePo batteries, and just barely over the ultrafire max drain rate)
at 7.4V with a 5.2Ωatty....1.42A (just under the max of the AW batteries, and over the ultrafire max drain rate)
again for fairness:
3.7V 18650 with a 1.5Ω atty....2.7A

hmm lets examine watts put out
LR atty at 3.7...9.13W
standard 510...15.65W (6V)........23.81W (7.4V)
standard carto..12W (6V)...........18.25W (7.4V)
knock off 510...11.25 (6V)..........17.11W (7.4V)
801...10.29 (6V) ..........15.65W (7.4V)
901...9.73 (6V).............14.80W (7.4V)
HR 510 (4.5Ω)... 8W (6V).............12.17W (7.4V)
HR 510 (5.2Ω)... 6.92 (6V)............10.53W (7.4V)

so lets combine those facts for optimal battery safety and life and hitting that so called sweet spot (between 8 - 10W)
that rules out 6V with the lifepo and Ultrafire batteries so you can cross out anything in the 6V category)..

and that leaves you with 2 things a 5.2Ω 510 atty on 2 AW CR123a batteries (not the ultrafires) at 10.53W....and the LR atty on a 3.7V battery at 9.13W...

And that's going with the battery voltage rating...if it's at full off the charger voltage that even knocks out the 7.4V option with the AW batteries...

so truely the only "HV" options where you're not abusing or overstressing the batteries to the point where they could fail is the 3.7V battery with a LR atty...
or
using stacked 3.7V high drain CR123a batteries for 7.4V with a 5.2Ω HV atty...(and there you're pushing into the burnt taste range when the batteries are fully charged)

That's why the LR atties...
 

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NICE ALEX GREY CHUCK!!! :D He's putting on an art performance in Austin, TX soon, but I won't be able to attend :( I have a gig booked that night. Nice choice for a chuck design. I used some of my graphic art that was partly inspired by Alex's work. He's got an amazing eye for detail and symmetry. His art extends beyond Tool, but yes it has been a background for their performances. I have dabbled in painting psychedelic light reactive art for a few shows in the last 6-7 years, but can't claim to be nearly as good of an artist as Alex. Just BEAUTIFUL!

My wait continues, but I can feel it getting closer... maybe tomorrow.
 
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NICE ALEX GREY CHUCK!!! :D He's putting on an art performance in Austin, TX soon, but I won't be able to attend :( I have a gig booked that night. Nice choice for a chuck design. I used some of my graphic art that was partly inspired by Alex's work. He's got an amazing eye for detail and symmetry. His art extends beyond Tool, but yes it has been a background for their performances. I have dabbled in painting psychedelic light reactive art for a few shows in the last 6-7 years, but can't claim to be nearly as good of an artist as Alex. Just BEAUTIFUL!

My wait continues, but I can feel it getting closer... maybe tomorrow.

THANKS!
:D

Oh, you have to see his stuff! Pictures just don't do it justice. When CoSM was in NYC, it was an experience that is hard to describe.

You used your own art?? Cool! cant wait to see it

I was a 31 day wait, which seems to be the average turnaround time.

Hang in there!!
 
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