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So who has tried high voltage vaping with a 401?

Discussion in 'M-401/402 "Mini" & M403 Super Mini' started by Ez Duzit, Nov 22, 2009.

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  1. Ez Duzit

    Ez Duzit Super Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 16, 2009
    Southern California
    I've been messing around with mods lately. Been using regulators, or voltage boosters, and I discovered something about the 401 at high voltage.

    Just wondering who else has pushed a 401 to 5 volts? What was your experience?
     
  2. pap

    pap Full Member

    Sep 12, 2009
    I tried it at 5v... the atomizer can handle that voltage with no problems. The throath hit is huge with 18mg juice, the vapor comes out really hot! On the other side, you have to drip A LOT to avoid the burnt taste.

    The atty was from bestecig, so it isn't the original from smoore, I'll try with the original one soon.
     
  3. Kattdaddy

    Kattdaddy Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    I love high voltage mods.. they are the best. as far as 5v 401..I do agree with Pap.. I was using regular juice for a while in the beginning.. but I have found that if you get HV juice that is a lot thicker, you won't experience that burnt metallic taste as much. I consider myself a huffer because I almost all the time take extreme long inhales (tweek) but really, the HV juice combined with 5 to 6 volts on the 401 is intense with the flavors and the heat.. man.

    Later,
    Tom
     
  4. Ez Duzit

    Ez Duzit Super Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 16, 2009
    Southern California
    I know pap said he wasn't using a smoore 401 atty, and I would have to guess Kattdaddy isn't using one either. Because I've got 5 dead atty's that say original smoore 401's don't like 5 volts. Not even one tiny bit. Tried it first with a boost converter at 5v, and it blew 3 atty's as fast as I could change em. Checked the voltage on the 3rd one, before it blew, and it was 5.03v. I swapped out the boost converter for a regulator, and got the same result. Tried it one more time with an old, tired atty, and it lasted 1 full hit. Died on the 2nd one.

    It's definitely the smoore atty's because I know I'm not the only one. I lowered the voltage to another atty, down to about 4.7v (after I got my new atty's) and It lasted about 40 minutes. I now have it set to exactly 4.4v, which I was told by nuck, in another thread, is probably the safest, maybe 4.5. After that, I can vouch, they don't last long.

    On the plus side, they do rock at 4.4v. But dam, they suck down that tiny cart full of juice awful quick. :)
     
  5. pap

    pap Full Member

    Sep 12, 2009
    Umh, thanks for the info, I'll stick with fake 401's atties :D

    Bestecig's atty are quite robust, as soon as I can I'll try with 6v and 7,2v... I have some spares to blow up :p
     
  6. TaketheRedPill

    TaketheRedPill Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 27, 2009
    Southern California
    how are you all using 401s on mods? are there adapters floating around some secret place or are you all making your own?

    TTRP
     
  7. cmdrmaxwell

    cmdrmaxwell Super Member ECF Veteran

    I am getting a 510 to 401 adapter from altsmoke along with a BB to try my 401 attys at 6V and cant wait! 8-o
     
  8. Ez Duzit

    Ez Duzit Super Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 16, 2009
    Southern California
    My first one came off of a dead pass through. Then I got more from alt smoke.
    DO NOT get the ones nerf is selling. I got some from him, but they don't fit a smoore 401 atty (oem 401 atty). After a few emails back and forth, he gave me some BS about them being oem Joye 401 connectors, but I'm not even sure Joye makes a 401 model. But I am 100% sure that smoore is the manufacturer of the M401.

    The ones from altsmoke work fine, even if the silicon insulator is a pain to work with.
     
  9. pap

    pap Full Member

    Sep 12, 2009
    I made my own 510-401 adapter taking the connectors from 2 dead 401 batteries.
     
  10. Luv2CUSmile

    Luv2CUSmile Super Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 30, 2009
    NC
    How can you tell a Smoore 401 from another 401 atty? I have branded 401's and a few atty's purchased separately from 2 diff suppliers... they all look the same other than color and all have been working great- (I don't have HV yet, just wondering between Smoore to something else) Between EZ & pap... what is the distinguishing factor?
    & thx for the tip on nerf's - I had contacted him about them but still hadn't gotten enough info to get one yet. good thing as I have never seen a Joye 401... just know I don't have one.
     
  11. pap

    pap Full Member

    Sep 12, 2009
    I know they're fake because I bought them from Bestecig, they manifacture their atties, batteries and fluids. If you buy from them 401 or 510 or 901 atties you get almost the same, they change pratically only the shape.
     
  12. Shadowdr

    Shadowdr Super Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 11, 2009
    Nashville Tn.
    Not sure about all of them but Joye makes a 306 that looks identical to some of the 401's I have got. The Smoore has a ceramic bridge and the Joyes have a metal one. The Joye's also have a wide ring around the bridge that makes them have a much harder draw. Smoores come in a blue plastic pouch while the others (knockoffs?) come in clear plastic ones. I only assume that they are Joye because they look just like their 306.

    As far as high voltage, I would think if you go with higher voltage that the Joyes would be better suited because they are not nearly as hot or as good as the smoore's at regular voltage. I use a boxmod with a 14500 battery and the smoore's really shine, while the others are kind of whimpy. The smoore also fits the 510 atty made into a connector while the other does not, it must have a washer on it because the threads go deeper and it will short out if screwed on all the way. If using regular voltage the Smoore's are far superior to the others.
     
  13. Ez Duzit

    Ez Duzit Super Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 16, 2009
    Southern California
    I don't think you can tell by looking at it. I've gotten 401 atty's from both Truesmoker, and Litecig, and I remember each one saying they carry oem parts. But I can't remember if it was in an email, or a thread somewhere.
    They were all between 2.7 - 2.9 ohms. Now, if we get anyone to check an off brand 401.....

    Pap, can you help out here? Check the resistance of one of your off brand 401 atty's? Curious to see if there's a difference.
     
  14. pap

    pap Full Member

    Sep 12, 2009
    They are around 3 ohms.
     
  15. Luv2CUSmile

    Luv2CUSmile Super Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 30, 2009
    NC
    Thx- This helps anyway- If I get new ones to check for package type...
    I don't have anything to check power, resistance, whatever- I swore when I got into this and noticed all the equipment many people have, I would not be going "ga-ga ape" over the novelty. LOL No, I am not insinuating that anyone w/ loads of stuff aren't justified in having so much, just that along w/ lowering my need for nicotine, I plan to save money... I am about even right now- & I still look at the supplier sites! 8-o At any rate, if I ever purchase a used from classifieds or what have you, I will try to look at the bridge differences or how the threading looks. I am not sure I would buy used atty's on their own though. But, thx- at least I know all I have are the Smoore 401's-
     
  16. Bjorn Toulouse

    Bjorn Toulouse Super Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 5, 2009
    Glasgow
    I use the 401 EVO attie with 510 manuals ....its ok
    But the 401 @ 4.8v is very good

    4 1.2v standard aa rechargable batteries soldered via a cable to a dead 401 battery end.

    very cheap mod very good vape (looks like xxxxx though)
     
  17. cyberwolf

    cyberwolf Reviewer / Blogger Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 22, 2009
    Coral Springs, FL
    I have planned to use my first failed 401 battry to try out a higher voltage mode, but 7 months in I have not had one fail yet...

    The discussion of different manufacturers for the 401 attys is interesting. I originally got some from three or so different vendors, some of which were great and some weak. Unfortunately I no longer know which are which. I finally got some good ones from HG and have not ordered from anyone else since. I thought it was my imagination!
     
  18. Bjorn Toulouse

    Bjorn Toulouse Super Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 5, 2009
    Glasgow
    Likewise except I used 1 401 battery and the attie from a 510
     
  19. Stankia

    Stankia Full Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 21, 2009
    So what would be the easiest way to do such mod? I have a dead M402 battery laying around and a couple weak atty's.
     
  20. hecknaw

    hecknaw Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 7, 2009
    north fla
    i use a 401 atomizer, on a thagbuilt.com chuck mod. built by Mr jeffakamax,according to him mine is the only one in the u.s.a. as he has only built 2 and the other one is in Canada. this monster i'm tell'n ya is bad -to-the-bone!! it uses a 18650 battery at 3.7v and at 2600mha i can get better than 48 hours on one charge!! great for those who don't like to change out batteries often!!but here the kicker(at 3.7 it vapes like a 5v)or you can double stack 2 cr123's(3v each and get 6v total)i have not tried this because i did not want to chance blowing out an atty!!!but i would challange anyone anywhere to have a need to vape anything more than a chuck!! at 3.7v, not only will you have long,long,long battery life,but it will handle the 401 with no problem!!!
     
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