Some homemade attys and genesis

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dunno who your feeding... but i read it wrong, 33 was for shipping... 45 parts is still a good price. if they can get the parts in the stated for about the same id be in is what im getting at.

I understand but, the Willpro DIY kit at ~80 dollars when finished should be a $280 dollar mod. A Genisis mod last month sold in the classifieds for over $500.
 

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Ok I decided to revisit the DSU mod, here is a new concept pic. All SS and poly tubing. The gray areas are the SS, black orings etc... The outside poly tube dimesions will be 7/8OD x 3/4ID the inside poly tube will be 5/8OD x 1/2ID I
Guess I will give this one a go and see how it works.
I think I made the hole to big for the SS wick on the last two and will try a smaller hole this time.
Got all the materials, just need to turn the SS on the lathe.
Dan

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How about a Scuba/Gum/Boggy Genisis???????? Just for giggles.
I was fiddling around with the DSU too. I 1st made it into a drip Genisis By putting 2/3s of a Gummy Tank on top of the atty. That worked well but it didn't hold the juice long, So added some batting from a Boggy cart. That works good but would need to re-fill very often. Only holds about 2 or 3 ml. Will leak too if left on it's side with the air hole on the bottom.

 
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Ok I decided to revisit the DSU mod, here is a new concept pic. All SS and poly tubing. The gray areas are the SS, black orings etc... The outside poly tube dimesions will be 7/8OD x 3/4ID the inside poly tube will be 5/8OD x 1/2ID I
Guess I will give this one a go and see how it works.
I think I made the hole to big for the SS wick on the last two and will try a smaller hole this time.
Got all the materials, just need to turn the SS on the lathe.
Dan

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I just noticed that this design and the Vortex have the same basic principle. The drawback to the vortex design was mostly leaking issues. I think with your design abilities you could actually get better results with the tank coming down the sides to the wick like the vortex. I think the biggest problem with the vortex was the way the center chamber sealed on the wick so that is where you would need to do the most R&D work. This would give you the same result with fewer parts and pieces.

What do you think?
 

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Is the two tube design suppose to create a sort of back pressure to slow the wicking down? Looks interesting.......

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Naw, the inner tube is for the liquid resivoir, the pace between the tubes is the airflow passage. The outer tube just creates a path for airflow to the mouth piece I.E.
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Kind of like how the ego-t is designed with tank on top. Outter space allows airflow to atty, im sure even with the airholes in batt connector it would still create a little suction from hard draws, wicking by gravity and suction. Thats going to be a CANNON. nice work

There would be no airflow from the atty it would come from the side of the combustion chamber. Small hole in the poly tube on the side.
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Slimest, that thing rocks, jumbo tank?? crochet hook kanthal mounts?!? A pseudo flesh button!!! Please give me the link to J80's original thread that thing deserves some respect.

Dan, not to niggle, but the air inlet hole could be placed lower so it doesn't blow above the coil but more right at it. That was a point with the hybrid around January.
 

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Slimest, that thing rocks, jumbo tank?? crochet hook kanthal mounts?!? A pseudo flesh button!!! Please give me the link to J80's original thread that thing deserves some respect.

Dan, not to niggle, but the air inlet hole could be placed lower so it doesn't blow above the coil but more right at it. That was a point with the hybrid around January.

Right I solved that problem with the last DSU, I played around with a 18ga needle set into the poly tube so the air flow was delivered directly at the coil a few mm away, it did not matter how high the hole was drilled. I just angled the short tube at it. A side benefit was I never had any juice leak out of the hole :)
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I just noticed that this design and the Vortex have the same basic principle. The drawback to the vortex design was mostly leaking issues. I think with your design abilities you could actually get better results with the tank coming down the sides to the wick like the vortex. I think the biggest problem with the vortex was the way the center chamber sealed on the wick so that is where you would need to do the most R&D work. This would give you the same result with fewer parts and pieces.

What do you think?

Have already worked on a design I think would work, only problem I have is the airflow. Man I need to do one project at a time LOL
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What fun would that be???

Airflow could be done with a couple of small holes up through the base at an angle to the corners, staggered to create a circular flow. =]

Yeah that is close to what I was thinking but I want to drill a hole below the wick, and stand the wick up. So I am inserting the SS material in the hole beneath the wick, and allowing it to flow up the wick to the coil. Sorta like this design for the bottom.
The 4 smaller holes would be for the airflow.
The center hole makes basically an inverted T design. So liquid comes through the SS in the cross section of the T and up through the center to the wick.
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In this design you have a 3/8ID x 1/2OD inside tube and a 3/4ID x 7/8OD outer tube.
Now I was thinking of using a 1/8ID x 3/8OD tube cut 1/4" above the wick to fill in the 3/8 tube so there is less air in there.
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Another problem I had with the Vortex was a huge amount of condensate. Do you think a purge hole would bee needed with this to allow excess condensate to be drained out or will it vape out by being collected by the wick?

I also assume the rate of wicking and possibility of leaking would be controlled by the tighness and fit of the SS mesh roll.
 

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Another problem I had with the Vortex was a huge amount of condensate. Do you think a purge hole would bee needed with this to allow excess condensate to be drained out or will it vape out by being collected by the wick?

I also assume the rate of wicking and possibility of leaking would be controlled by the tighness and fit of the SS mesh roll.

The DSU's I tested had some condensation, but in this design it would be collected and vaped out. Yes the SS should restrict the air flow back into the bottle controlling the vacum that occurs stopping it for flooding. The only problem will be filling it. LOL
I was thinking of a bottom fill plug so you are turning it upside down to fill. This will solve the problem of no vacum during filling. A problem I had on DSUv2.
Dan
 
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