Some people again.........

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imeothanasis

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One of my very good friends here told me that a "man" send him a very bad pm. My friend didnt knew him before but unfortunately my friend is my friend:D. That means that if you are my friend you are automatically an enemy for this "man" and for some others too.
Some people that used to come to my forum and now they dont come any more even if they are happy customers, its maybe because of some other people that do an underground work against GG. "They" deside that if they cant beat directly the GG they can use other methods.

This "man" is known on ECF. He has done bad things in past to me.

GG people are not "women". I am not afraid of anyone and so my friends too.

Dont ever annoy my customers. Did I made myself clear "my known friend"?
 
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Drozd

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Truth be told..and honestly this will probably hurt your feelings..
you and the rabid fans really bring and cause the drama yourselves..
I'm just letting you know how I see it and feel about it..
I see so much from you about how wronged you were by this supplier and that supplier and how they "stole" this idea and that idea...it just comes across as whiney..
And then the rabid fans that go into other suppliers sub-forums and try to stir up trouble..

Me I like the look of the GG line (except for the laser etched logo) very sleek looking.. but I'll never ever buy one because I don't want to be in the company of some of your users nor support the "poor me" sentimentality..

Sorry but it's the brutal honest truth
 

T-Hefner

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Drozd,
Haha...That is total bull dude.....You wouldnt buy a product because you dont like someone that owns it already? Haha...

People like the product, and with products that people like, there will always be that "fanboy" type thing. You should know this, it happens with many things that people like. As far as not buying one because of that, I mean, sheesh, your just missing out on a great product.

There is no poor me, just stating the truth...move along, nothing to see here buddy.

-T
 
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vapn

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The trouble is that no other supplier ever gives the man a lick of credit for inspiration. Imeo came out and said in public that Trog inspired him to make his mod. Imeo WAS the first to do many of these things that others beat their chest about all the time. The only reason we go into other suppliers forums is to return the favor. And yes I get those nasty PMs also. But who cares, its all in the name of good fun.. why are we here in the first place..? to have a little fun and it turns into a nasty political battle of he said she said crap... That is the brutal honest truth.
 

ggero

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axmmmm...Maybe I am wrong...But ....I have not seen anyone to invent the AFS, or the modded atties at diferent usage volts, or an e-cig of the same philosophy but in diferent sizes...Also I have never seen anyone to give a good aftersales support to all, to reply to all the posts about his product, to collaborate with excellent ressellers and sent free updates to the customers through his ressellers..So I guess you are right !!!
 

wegster

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    I'll say something unpopular, but hey, it won't be the first time.
    Drotz does have a point. GG/Imeo isn't the only one out there with "fanboys" or fangirls - come on, look at the people for Vapor King (*cough KR808D-1*), PureSmoker, you name it. *some* fanboys/girls from *any* vendor, take it a bit too far, and Sakkis/Imeo does go a bit "overboard" sometimes, perhaps feeding it a bit more with respect to GG.

    Does he believe in his product? Yeah, I think he does. Does he piss some people off? Yeah, I think he does. :) Is it a good product? Yeah, I think it is and yes, I own one.

    The GG is a battery tube, pure and simple. So is the Prodigy, the Protege, the BB, the SB, the NHaler, the Chuck, the Super-T stuff, and whatever someone builds tomorrow. So is the SD, even if it started life as a flashlight - it was still the first "big battery commercial mod" AFAIK, and actually looks pretty damned cool.

    Now, I'm not saying that's *all* the GG is, but bear with me. The idea of someone "copying" a common sense idea...well, it's silly. Anyone remember the 'Amazon one click shopping patent' mess? That's a huge abuse of the patent system, and anyone in tech laughs at it (or cries) - we can't patent common sense. The one click shopping, as simple as it is, is still far more complicated than 'build a bigger battery for e-cigs.' Yet, some kind of egg this on at times - really, there are only so many ways to make a battery tube. Material, type of batteries, type of atomizers to accept, and the switch. We could say that Trog and Imeo both "copied" Ruyan, the patent holder of the e-cig, and the many since. If they didn't, then what did they do? Oh, they implemented the battery tube differently, and in some cases, enhanced the functionality or convenience. That is what distinguishes any item from it's counterparts, the implementation and the convenience.

    Look at any item people buy - cell phones, blenders, coffee makers - what happens to them? A company comes out with a basic model, then enhances it. Every now and then a good idea comes along - a permanent filter, a built-in timer, a mechanical switch..most of these are nice, and convenient, but even then, there are different implementations of them that can still make two devices with the same features more or less appealing to consumers. None of those changes are revolutionary either, only some common sense and a very minor evolution of a device, even if quite convenient to have.

    Do I think anyone going ballistic over any other battery tubes being a "copy" is going overboard, and should perhaps seek medication, a relaxing hobby, or buy some goldfish? Yeah, I kinda do. Perhaps they are in need of the other type of smoke, to relax. It's a normal ongoing evolution of a very simple device. DO you think a patent would be granted easily, considering prior art, for "a metal tube to hold batteries, with a switch supplying power"? Flashlight, anyone? :)

    That doesn't mean there's no room for innovation, but let's be realistic, folks. Let the implementation of ideas speak for themselves. Imeo gets a little too 'passionate' at times, IMO, and it tends to feed some of the others..just like other vendors fanboys/fangirls. The GG is a nice device, and I like Imeo's ongoing changes, but before the AFS was "born," there were various home-made juice feeding systems, and nothing wrong with that - the beauty is in the implementation and sometimes refinement of common sense and common knowledge ideas. HV atties IMO is a different tactic to not having a preferred set of batteries able to output around 5v, nor a mechanical or perhaps reliable voltage regulator - Imeo likes mechanical solutions. It's not the only solution, or can we say that the HV atties "emulating" 5v vaping is instead then only a copy of the Prodigy? It's not - it's a different solution to the similar problem statement of wanting more vapor and throat hit, while have atties last longer than the standard ones do at 6-7+ vDC. It's a slight modification to a well known pre-existing item, the standard e-cig atomizer.

    I could go on, but there's no point, really; people generally do what they want, regardless, or sometimes, those who really choose to not think on their own, allow others to do it for them, or believe everything they read a bit blindly.

    There's a saying about imitation being the sincerest form of flattery. People know who made the first e-cig commercial mods, who had the first mechanical device, the first commercial auto-feeding system, and others. It's a waste of time, energy and stress in pissing contests over a lot of these things, especially about devices that are relatively simple and common sense in nature. Enjoy whatever you like, and let others do the same. Relax, vape, or umm..smoke. :)

    Ok, rant over. (for now? :D )
     
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