Some questions about batteries from a new vaper

[Julio_90]

Hey guys please help me out with these questions because i'm seriously confused.

1/Do I have to take the "battery marriage" thing too seriously with regulated mods? I got rid of two sets of married batteries just because a friend of mine used random batteries out of these two sets for his single 18650 mod, Now should I remarry them again or no because now the cycles are uneven?

2/ I usually notice when I put my married batteries on the charger it shows in the screen that the volts of each battery is slightly different, like one is 4.15 and the other is 4.09 or something, is that normal or should they be the same?

3/ If a metal object like a metal tweezer touched the postive pin of a battery without touching the negative as well, could this cause a problem like a short? and if I mistakenly touched the postive pin with a metal object and nothing happened like no sparks or anything (which I did), does this mean that the battery is ok and I should keep on using it or there could be an underlying problem?


Sorry for the Long questions but I need ur help guys. Thanks

 

[CMD-Ky]

Hey guys please help me out with these questions because i'm seriously confused.

1/Do I have to take the "battery marriage" thing too seriously with regulated mods? I got rid of two sets of married batteries just because a friend of mine used random batteries out of these two sets for his single 18650 mod, Now should I remarry them again or no because now the cycles are uneven?

2/ I usually notice when I put my married batteries on the charger it shows in the screen that the volts of each battery is slightly different, like one is 4.15 and the other is 4.09 or something, is that normal or should they be the same?

3/ If a metal object like a metal tweezer touched the postive pin of a battery without touching the negative as well, could this cause a problem like a short? and if I mistakenly touched the postive pin with a metal object and nothing happened like no sparks or anything (which I did), does this mean that the battery is ok and I should keep on using it or there could be an underlying problem?


Sorry for the Long questions but I need ur help guys. Thanks

I can only address number 3. Touching only the positive (or the negative) will not cause you a short or a problem. The battery will be fine.

 

[NU_FTW]

1) Further testing underway to determine this.
2) Not uncommon
3) Unless the metal object finds a way to ground the positive post you should be ok. No sparks indicate it didnt short anything so you should be ok.

 

[Shawn Hoefer]

1. Marriage is somewhat a myth... but it's a helpful myth intended to keep people safe. As long as the batteries are the same make, model, and age they can be mixed and matched... that is to say 2 authentic Samsung 25R batteries that were purchased at the same general time and recieved the same general amount of use in 2 single battery mods can later be paired in a dual battery unit. On the other hand, pairing an LG HB4 and a Samsung 30Q is not recommended. Likewise, pairing a two year old Samsung 25R and a brand new Samsung 25R is not recommended.

Make sense?

2. In series mods, the battery closest to the draw (the board or the atomizer) is stressed more than the battery further from the draw. As such, the charge levels will be different. Charge externally, and occasionally rotate batteries to be safe and extend battery life.

3. Nope... no problem...

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[Imfallen_Angel]

Hey guys please help me out with these questions because i'm seriously confused.

1/Do I have to take the "battery marriage" thing too seriously with regulated mods? I got rid of two sets of married batteries just because a friend of mine used random batteries out of these two sets for his single 18650 mod, Now should I remarry them again or no because now the cycles are uneven?

The marriage is about the wear/usage/capacity of the battery. A battery's age is not just the physical age, but the wear on it, how many changes it's been threw as this is charging it's chemical composition bit by bit. And from brand to brand (or model type) the output can also be different enough to make a dis-balance between the batteries.

Putting in a battery that's new with an older one (or different type), the one with have more potential, have a greater output, and this will stress the older battery, and yes, you could end up overloading it.

From Alkalines to ANY battery, no ifs or buts about it, you are never supposed to mix old and new (or different) batteries.

2/ I usually notice when I put my married batteries on the charger it shows in the screen that the volts of each battery is slightly different, like one is 4.15 and the other is 4.09 or something, is that normal or should they be the same?

As Shawn mentions, in series, one battery can get more stress (depending on the device) so it's good to switch them every time, but at some point, if the difference gets too great, I wouldn't pair them anymore and put them on the flashlight pile.

3/ If a metal object like a metal tweezer touched the postive pin of a battery without touching the negative as well, could this cause a problem like a short? and if I mistakenly touched the postive pin with a metal object and nothing happened like no sparks or anything (which I did), does this mean that the battery is ok and I should keep on using it or there could be an underlying problem?
Sorry for the Long questions but I need ur help guys. Thanks

If you didn't see a reaction, while it's not 100% certain that nothing happened, the odds are low that it did, so you're probably fine.. these 18650 kick like a mule when they short out. Just avoid doing this again.

 

[ChelsB]

I hope it's okay that I ask a question here. Do married batteries need to be rotated each time? I know they need to stick together but do I have to make sure to put them in alternate slots every time?


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[BackDoc]

It's a good practice but I wouldn't loose sleep over it, practically speaking when you charge the batteries an replace them in the mod you're probably switching them most of the time anyway...

 

[Julio_90]

Thank you guys for all the answers, This helped a lot!

 

[Julio_90]

If you didn't see a reaction, while it's not 100% certain that nothing happened, the odds are low that it did, so you're probably fine.. these 18650 kick like a mule when they short out. Just avoid doing this again.

How about when I use a tube hybrid mech mod? after I install the atomizer I slide the battery down in the tube, as I'm screwing the button, the positive side of the battery will be touching the pin of the atomizer. Is that the same issue?

 

[Imfallen_Angel]

How about when I use a tube hybrid mech mod? after I install the atomizer I slide the battery down in the tube, as I'm screwing the button, the positive side of the battery will be touching the pin of the atomizer. Is that the same issue?

I've never used one, nor would I, but from what I've seen and checked, you have to make certain that the tank you use is proper for hybrids, (an adjustable or longer 510 pin to ensure that you don't having a short).

TheTinMan (one of our members)just posted this video in another thread, that I think would be a good watch for you, as it does mention hybrids and battery safety.

 

[Ben85]

How about when I use a tube hybrid mech mod? after I install the atomizer I slide the battery down in the tube, as I'm screwing the button, the positive side of the battery will be touching the pin of the atomizer. Is that the same issue?

Apologies if I have misunderstood, but are you asking if any metal can touch the positive of a battery?

 

[Julio_90]

Apologies if I have misunderstood, but are you asking if any metal can touch the positive of a battery?

I know I probably asked a very stupid question, but I just wanted to know the difference between touching the positive of a battery with a metal tweezer and touching it with the protruding pin of an RDA, and why a tweezer could cause a short while the pin of an rda wouldnt.

 

[Ben85]

I know I probably asked a very stupid question, but I just wanted to know the difference between touching the positive of a battery with a metal tweezer and touching it with the protruding pin of an RDA, and why a tweezer could cause a short while the pin of an rda wouldnt.

A short is directly connecting the positive of the battery to the negative.

 

[DaveP]

Hey guys please help me out with these questions because i'm seriously confused.

1/Do I have to take the "battery marriage" thing too seriously with regulated mods? I got rid of two sets of married batteries just because a friend of mine used random batteries out of these two sets for his single 18650 mod, Now should I remarry them again or no because now the cycles are uneven?

2/ I usually notice when I put my married batteries on the charger it shows in the screen that the volts of each battery is slightly different, like one is 4.15 and the other is 4.09 or something, is that normal or should they be the same?

3/ If a metal object like a metal tweezer touched the postive pin of a battery without touching the negative as well, could this cause a problem like a short? and if I mistakenly touched the postive pin with a metal object and nothing happened like no sparks or anything (which I did), does this mean that the battery is ok and I should keep on using it or there could be an underlying problem?


Sorry for the Long questions but I need ur help guys. Thanks

1) Married batteries are just two new batteries that are kept together for life. It's possible that there are slight differences during use, but close enough so that each battery is taking its share of the load. I would definitely use only new batteries in matched pairs.

2) What you see on your charger could be real or it could be a result of marginal contact with the charger pins. Rotate it to see if it changes. What you described is within .1 volts so I wouldn't worry.

2) Most batteries have a plastic washer style ring around the positive contact to prevent shorting. if that's not there or it's damage shorting could occur, but usually only if someone actually sticks something under the wrap and shorts from the positive contact to the case.

 

[KenD]

How about when I use a tube hybrid mech mod? after I install the atomizer I slide the battery down in the tube, as I'm screwing the button, the positive side of the battery will be touching the pin of the atomizer. Is that the same issue?

You're thinking about faux hybrids, where the atomizer 510 pin connects directly to the battery. True hybrids don't have 510 pins at all, the atty and mod are specifically designed to be used together and are far safer by design. A very important distinction. The faux hybrid is simply a bad design that has become popular for some inexplicable reason.

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