some suggestions please..

[rleelucas]

hi everyone! im brand new here (first post). i am looking to begin a new obsession with the vapeing. i have used disposable njoy ones and also another one i forget the name of, and i realize they are crap, but they gave me an impression of the potential for these things.

so, im very confused on a number of issues. what is the method of getting new nicotine/flavorings into the eCig? i see that some have interchangeable cartridges, and some seem to have refillable cartridges. i dont know what's what! nothing i have found really breaks it all down for someone who knows nothing.

i am also lost when it comes to the different atomizers/cartomizers... i do not know the difference, and i most certainly dont know the difference between the various models within each category. eGo, and Joye 501 seem to be pretty popular.

also, let me state that i am NOT specifically looking for something that resembles an "analog" cigarette. i couldnt care less what my personal vape looks like, although i think id prefer black with a light. im not going to be too picky about weight/size of my PV, because from what i have read, the better performing models are bulkier/heavier. i want something that appeals to MY aesthetic preference, but that has nothing to do with appearing to be a real tobacco cigarette. in other words, performance takes priority over "style"... im kind of the guy at work who everyone thinks is a little off his rocker anyway. i was kind of turned on by The Copper (original Hex version) because i work as an operator/programmer-trainee at a machine shop. i know it would be cool because it looks like something i could very well have made myself. although i am a bit iffy on the method of activation. looks kind of strange and maybe some people can never get used to it, and i cant imagine it NOT going off in my pocket.

also, i am looking for an eCig that is available to buy as a starter kit. something that includes a bunch of different flavors to try and has all i need to start. i also would prefer something that lasts long or can be charged on the fly, because i tend to slave away at work for 12-14 hours. also a USB style charger would be best, although this is of little concern. i say this because all my chargers (phone, iPod, etc.) work with a USB tip, and so i carry multiple CORDS with me, but the universal bulky part you plug into the wall, i just leave one at work, and one at home. bingo.

well, i hope this post isnt too long for anyone to read through. i tend to be a bit wordy. but i also am looking to order one in the next day or two, so id like to get any preference questions out of the way from the gate. thanks in advance for your personalized recommendations!

-Lee

 

[rleelucas]

oh and one more thing... i am always very busy at work, so constantly filling up with juice is the only thing making me feel wary of buying one of these right now. i want somthing where i can fill up a few cartridges at home or something and just screw on a new cartridge when i run dry.

 

[mwa102464]

Lee, you may want to really read around many of the different ECF threads before you ask some of these questions and familirize yourself a bit more with in the ECF forum and just try to soak up as much information as you can for a little while. There really is a pluthera of information here at the ECF and also using the search box in the upper right hand top corner comes in handy for finding answers to the questions you may have, you can also use google for your questions and many of the ECF threads will also come up in your search. If you ask the questions you are your going to get so many different answers, this is why I suggest reading around a bit for a while, especially before you make any purchases, some items get hyped up that arent always so good as in many products just so the retailers can make sales. Research research and more good research will net you some good results, also dont be surprised if you have to end up buying 4-5 different kits or Mods until you find your holly Grail of vapes. The people here will go the extra mile to help you as well it's a super friendly forum.

 

[mwa102464]

oh and one more thing... i am always very busy at work, so constantly filling up with juice is the only thing making me feel wary of buying one of these right now. i want somthing where i can fill up a few cartridges at home or something and just screw on a new cartridge when i run dry.

Carto tanks, and bottom feeding Mods come in very handy for this situation.

 

[mooreted]

Welcome to the ECF. I'm glad you made a decision to get away from smoking tobacco. Using a Personal Vaporizer as an alternative is healthier and a lot more enjoyable.

There is a lot of information here, and it can be a bit overwhelming choosing the right PV and juice. However, it can also be easy if you choose good equipment and take your time in learning to use it.

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Recommendation for those who don't want to read the whole thing:

This is your shopping list:

• 1 standard 3.7v mod such as the Indulgence V3 or E-Power
• 2 batteries for your mod
• 1 battery charger
• 2 packs of Boge 2.0 Ohm cartomizers for trying juices
• 1 carto tank
• Several sample packs of juice to try out

I know, I know; OMG! he's recommending a mod to newbies! My take is:

• Small batteries are going to be frustrating and may lead to failure
• eGo, Kgo and the like cost more money to replace batteries and don't have replaceable parts
• A good mod will give a better vape, last longer and will be more likely to help you kick the smoking habit
• Dripping is confusing and difficult for many people. Cartos are cheap, and you can use them to try a sample. If you don't like it, throw the carto and sample out
• Filling cartomizers is a pain, a tank is easy to fill, lasts all day and needs to be replaced less often. Once you find your all-day vape, this is the way to go

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Many kits you will find online are made up of the following parts:

• Battery
• Charger
• Cartridge (cart)
• Atomizer (atty)

While an atomizer can be handy for testing new juices by direct dripping, this configuration is difficult to use and tends to perform poorly. The first thing you will want to get with your kit is a pack or two of cartomizers (cartos). Cartomizers have their own atomizer and cartridge in one piece, have a more consistent vape, and hold more juice.

Atomizers and cartomizers have a resistance rating in Ohms. You cannot use low resistance attys and cartos on a small battery as they pull too much power and will kill your small battery. You need a battery 450 Mah or higher for low-resistance attys and cartos.

The basic types of cartomizers are:

• Standard resistance (usually 3.0 ohms)
• Low resistance (as low as 1.5 ohms)
• Dual-coil cartomizers
• Cartomizer tank

The standard resistance cartos are the only cartos you can use on a small battery PV.

Low resistance cartos give more vapor and a hotter vape. The lower the resistance, the bigger the battery you need. For an even hotter vape with more vapor you need more wattage.

A cartomizer tank has a cartomizer inside a small tank. The cartomizer has a small hole punched in it to soak juice into the carto so that you can just fill the tank when it gets close to empty.

The basic types of personal vaporizers in use are:

• Small battery, cigarette-sized
• Big battery, cigar-sized
• Standard modification (mod)
• Variable-voltage modification (VV mod)
• Bottom-feeder modification
• Box modification

The small battery PV's are meant to simulate a regular cigarette as much as possible. These can be convenient as they are small and easy to carry. However, they have a very short battery life and require you to constantly have a battery charging.

The big battery types have a much longer battery life so that you can vape one PV all day without charging.

A standard mod has removable batteries of varying sizes. This enables you to have a PV that can stay charged for very long periods, and the batteries are removable and cheap which saves money. Many mods have replaceable parts so that if, for instance, a switch fails you just buy a new switch and replace it.

Variable voltage mods allow you to adjust the voltage depending on the carto and juice you are using at the time. This allows great flexibility, but you also need to have a workable understanding of voltage and resistance. Not recommended for new users.

A bottom-feeder mod is usually a box mod with a small juice bottle attached. You squeeze (squonk) the bottle to fill the attached cartomizer. Once you get used to sqonking the right amount of juice into the carto, you can get a very consistent vape all day long.

A box mod is just that: a box that contains a battery or batteries, an activation switch and a connection to screw your cartomizer or atty into. These can be small or big and blocky. They can also be variable-voltage.

The next thing you will need is juice. This is probably the most difficult part. Every one's tastes are different, and your tastes will change over time. You may even have periods where you can't taste anything, or everything tastes terrible. You may have a hard time finding juices you can vape all day. The best thing to do is try small samples until you find something you like, and then stock up on those. You will just have to experiment.

One important thing to know about juice: no juice is going to taste like burning tobacco. You aren't burning anything, you are creating vapor. The "tobacco flavored" juices taste more like chewing or pipe tobacco than cigarettes.

This is just my personal opinion, take it with a grain of salt. You are the only one who can decide what's best for you.

Finally: quitting smoking is difficult no matter what method you use. Take it easy on yourself. Take your time and if you still need to smoke as you're learning; go ahead and smoke. You will set yourself up for failure if you stress yourself out. Be patient, and you will get there.

 

[dormouse]

Most people use cartomizers and on big models some use cartomizer tanks where as entire cartomizer (that has 1-2 hole pre-punched/slotted into its sides) is shoved through the middle of a clear tank and surrounded with eliquid.

Even if a model comes with atomizer + cartridges, while OK to learn on, most do not find that to be the best most consistent way to vape.

Battery + atomizer + cartridge - ok to learn on then most switch to cartomizers for everyday vaping

Battery + atomizer + drip tip - good for trying new liquids and vaping occasional ones at home

Battery + tank atomizer + tank cartridge (not the same as carto tank) - some like but many switch to cartomizers

Battery + cartomizer - what most like for everyday vaping (cartomizer lasts about 4-10 days of vaping depending on the juice clarity and thinness and how heavily vaped and how well user keeps it damp to prevent singeing)

We put eliquid in everything. Most of us use brands with popular threadings and a variety of refillable cartomizers. Most use 510 threading for big models, 510 or KR808D-1 for slim minis (of those two slim ones, only a manual KR808D-1 may be better than the Njoy you had). And most people here use and recommend manuals (harder to kill, easier to get a good hit)

 

[Charlz]

I have a 650mah battery which gets me through the day. 900-1100mah will last most vapers tho whole day. Look for something regulated to 3.7-4.2 for best results and experimentation down the road. Or a variable voltage for maximum play. Thats for batteries.

Get a couple atomizers and as much juice as your budget allows. You will use the atomizers to see if you like the juice before putting it in a cartomizer. Cartomizers hold more juice but you will want to see if you like the juice because once it is in there, you can't easily get it out if you don't like it. Look for cartomizers that hold 3ml-5ml of juice for daily vaping and night time filling.

Once you have done that, come back and tell us what you got and we will help you with filling/charging, etc.

As you find a personal vaporizer you like, feel free to come back and ask questions.

Good luck.....kick ....!

ps.....where abouts are you in upstate NY?

 

[rleelucas]

ps.....where abouts are you in upstate NY?

wayne county/monroe county. i am right on the edge, and Rochester is my stomping grounds. lol

you?

 

[mwa102464]

rleelucas, see what I'm saying,,,,personally I cant stand cartomizers where as the mouse uses them exclusively or mostly, I'll take an HH-357 Atty or a Vision ( Fillerless carto/Atty type ) over a carto with filler in it all day everyday, just cant stand the filler type cartos. Best bet is to read around the ECF forum rleelucas, and get yourslef a few different typs of Atty's/Cartos/ I'll put my small 2c worth in here, try an HH-357 Atty from Avidvapor, a Vision Mini Carto from Gotvapes, and compare it to a Boge Carto to see what you like best, this would be a good place to start.

If your going to spend the cash for a Mod Darwin ( no Batts needed and variable wattage ) or Provari ( VV ) will net you the top results, as for a Bottom feeder I still say a Reo Grand, and Reo will soon have a VV Bottom feeder I believe as well. just a reg old 3.7V Mod may not net you the results your looking for, on the other hand it may. This is why I stated in my 1st post dont be surprised if you have to buy 4-5 units to find what your looking for. If you go Provari or Darwin you wont have to buy anything else Mod wise accept if you want a Bottom feeder then a Reo possibly. I still say to read around as much as possible before you buy to get a feel for some things, it's all about what works for you is the bottom line.

 

[Trucapri]

. . . There is a lot of information here, and it can be a bit overwhelming choosing the right PV and juice. However, it can also be easy if you choose good equipment and take your time in learning to use it.

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The basic types of personal vaporizers in use are:

• Small battery, cigarette-sized
• Big battery, cigar-sized
• Standard modification (mod)
• Variable-voltage modification (VV mod)
• Bottom-feeder modification
• Box modification

The small battery PV's are meant to simulate a regular cigarette as much as possible. These can be convenient as they are small and easy to carry. However, they have a very short battery life and require you to constantly have a battery charging.

The big battery types have a much longer battery life so that you can vape one PV all day without charging.

A standard mod has removable batteries of varying sizes. This enables you to have a PV that can stay charged for very long periods, and the batteries are removable and cheap which saves money. Many mods have replaceable parts so that if, for instance, a switch fails you just buy a new switch and replace it.

Variable voltage mods allow you to adjust the voltage depending on the carto and juice you are using at the time. This allows great flexibility, but you also need to have a workable understanding of voltage and resistance. Not recommended for new users.

A bottom-feeder mod is usually a box mod with a small juice bottle attached. You squeeze (squonk) the bottle to fill the attached cartomizer. Once you get used to sqonking the right amount of juice into the carto, you can get a very consistent vape all day long.

A box mod is just that: a box that contains a battery or batteries, an activation switch and a connection to screw your cartomizer or atty into. These can be small or big and blocky. They can also be variable-voltage. . .

This is GREAT clarification for someone new to all of this. It has taken me weeks of reading to try to distinguish the real differences in PV types.

Welcome!! Keep reading and asking questions, there's so much to consider and learn about, and vaping is loaded with a lot of personal preferences!

Best wishes!!

 

[rleelucas]

well, i just made my first eCig purchase! i went with the Smok EGO 650mAh carto deluxe starter kit, and then i bought a bunch of different 5ml eJuices to try. i got some PG, some VG and some of the 50/50 vg/pg blends so i can see which i prefer. thanks for your help people! i hope to receive my order quickly! any one know how long to expect LibertyFlights orders to reach me?

 

[Charlz]

wayne county/monroe county. i am right on the edge, and Rochester is my stomping grounds. lol

you?

Quite a few near Rochester area.....Upstate NY Vapers Club
I'm in the Rome/Utica area

 

[Charlz]

well, i just made my first eCig purchase! i went with the Smok EGO 650mAh carto deluxe starter kit, and then i bought a bunch of different 5ml eJuices to try. i got some PG, some VG and some of the 50/50 vg/pg blends so i can see which i prefer. thanks for your help people! i hope to receive my order quickly! any one know how long to expect LibertyFlights orders to reach me?

That's a fine purchase. Congrats. If you have a few bucks left you may want to add a couple atomizers to your order, so you can test them before you totally fill an cartomizer with something you don't like. If not, don't worry

 

[arkador]

for a starter kit, I can only think of 2 things I would recomend

1: Ego (not tank)

2: an inexpensive mod, like the Madvapes Roughstack with cartomizers

I have seen the ego recomended often, and personally, stopped using my ego as soon as I got my roughstack. it is the size of a roll of nickles, and has a 2inch carto sticking out of it. I prefer it, because I found I prefer cartos, and love that a2400mah battery lasts days.