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Something New - VZ SC Gourmet Flavors. Limited Supply DIY ONLY
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Has anyone tried the recent batch of gourmet honey? I was very let down. My first bottle was super strong, dark, thick liquid. Really, dense? Dense is the only way I can think to describe it, both in flavor and aroma. It was great. I ordered another bottle cause I was halfway through my first one but this second bottle is water clear and smells like perfume.
Also tried the Klondike - it was dark and thick but had no flavor at all. Literally none. Like, you'd have to vape it straight (which is impossible cause it's so thick) to notice any flavor - even then I don't think you'd notice any flavor.
Anyone know where they used to get their gourmet honey from? Did the russians change the formula? It was my best source for honey and now it's gone.
Also tried the Klondike - it was dark and thick but had no flavor at all. Literally none. Like, you'd have to vape it straight (which is impossible cause it's so thick) to notice any flavor - even then I don't think you'd notice any flavor.
Anyone know where they used to get their gourmet honey from? Did the russians change the formula? It was my best source for honey and now it's gone.
I do not use either flavor, but this is disconcerting news. It also makes me think of the Creme Brulee flavoring I recently rec'd. It looks the same in color and viscosity, but I'm having a difficult time getting the flavor "tuned". I was good usually @ 1%, but now I have made up to 4% and still not tasting like in the past. At first I thought it was a case of vapers tongue but now I'm wondering. Like smelly said, wonder if the Russian mfg changed the formulas of some flavorings??
I have to wonder what happens (hmmm....) when the flavors are rebottled. It seems to be a common issue buying flavoring from some vendors that buy flavors in bulk and rebottle them.
I prefer to buy direct from the source when possible.
I prefer to buy direct from the source when possible.
Excellent point...... several things bother me about re-bottling. Contamination and dilution are two that come to mind. Then there is the question if the mfg changed formulas and informed the vendor, why wasn't it indicated on the site? This is all conjecture, I want to be clear, and I am not casting aspersions. The formula is very likely the same for all we know. This is just something that I wonder about. (Darn, think I need to find something else to do??? lol)
Anyhoo.... just makes me more interested in buying direct, but don't have that big of an order and really don't want to mess with trying a co-op. Perhaps I'll just figure what I have to get to meet the minimum and dive in. I think I'm also indecisive....
Think I'll try giving VZ a call on Monday to ask about it in person. I really do need to find a replacement for their honey as it was perfect for what I need it for. I haven't tried FA honey but I've tried all the others. VZ was the best but now it's just like everyone else's = too flowery/chemical/perfume (actually now VZ has the worst honey ).
I might have to give the last little bit I have to a local flavor company and have it reverse engineered. Big headache.
I'll keep you lot posted with what VZ has to say. Yes very much wish the change was indicated on the site. I'd still be bummed but at least a little less so. Also going to try contacting the Russian supplier and see where that gets me.
PS - Horton, Fla represent woot!
).I might have to give the last little bit I have to a local flavor company and have it reverse engineered. Big headache.
I'll keep you lot posted with what VZ has to say. Yes very much wish the change was indicated on the site. I'd still be bummed but at least a little less so. Also going to try contacting the Russian supplier and see where that gets me.
PS - Horton, Fla represent woot!
Do let us know what you hear. Would be interesting to learn what is in the flavor, but I'm sure it's not inexpensive for the testing.Think I'll try giving VZ a call on Monday to ask about it in person. I really do need to find a replacement for their honey as it was perfect for what I need it for. I haven't tried FA honey but I've tried all the others. VZ was the best but now it's just like everyone else's = too flowery/chemical/perfume (actually now VZ has the worst honey
I might have to give the last little bit I have to a local flavor company and have it reverse engineered. Big headache.
I'll keep you lot posted with what VZ has to say. Yes very much wish the change was indicated on the site. I'd still be bummed but at least a little less so. Also going to try contacting the Russian supplier and see where that gets me.
PS - Horton, Fla represent woot!
Good to see another FL vaper.... ~30 mi N of Tampa here.....
there are also 3 different flavors of honey from the original site. There's honey flowers. Honey Linden. And honey BuckWheat. II honestly don't know which honey is the rich honey that everyone's talking about. I took a guess an order the honey flowers. I hope I got it right. It is also possible that the latest order from vz accidentally ordered the wrong honey.
Well, now I'm really wondering..... I picked two 50ml bottles of Baker Flavors the other day. So far I've compared one to what I got from VZ. It's the Creme Brulee. I don't understand what's going on. When I took the cap off the bottle from Baker, the aroma was wonderful 6" from my nose -- it hit me right away. It smells like fresh baked flan still warm from the oven. When I open the VZ SC Gourmet Creme Brulee I have to bring the bottle to my nose before picking up any aroma. (To be fair, I put both samples into identical clean glass 15ml bottles.) Then I made 10ml test batches of each @ 1% 60/40 PG/VG, no nic. Measured the flavor with a Tuberculin syringe. The difference was amazing. The flavor from the Baker bottle was fantastic. Full bodied and rich. lots of flavor. The VZ sample I could hardly taste. I plan on making some progressively higher % batches of the VZ Brulee to see if I can duplicate the Baker flavor, but this is going to be very subjective.
Something is amiss. I've purchased the CB several times from VZ and since the first purchase I've had problems getting it to taste right. Now trying the Baker right from the bottle, I'm really scratching my head. I know it's re-bottled, but what else is going on? There is no indication the flavoring has been diluted on the bottle, yet that is all I can assume (and I hate that word). Has anyone else run across this problem with any other of the SC Gourmet flavorings? Any input will be greatly appreciated..... TIA
I love the CremeBrulee but I mix it with 7Star Tobacco. I know most hate using drops but I am lazy and pleased with what I have made. I use 8 drops of each in a 20ml bottle on unflavored 18mg nic. Been pleased and using it for a good while and even have 2 people I make it for that likes it. Yes, everyone's tastebuds are different. That is why I try new things all the time. I do the same thing with the 7Star and Peach and the 7Star with Blueberry. Do you get the idea I really like the 7Star? heehee Just my 3¢ (inflation).
So, have you tried the 7Star yet, Rat?
The Creme Brulee is my fav flavor. Bumped to 3% this AM and will give it a go in a little while to see how it tastes. No doubt we all have differing senses of taste. My concern is the big difference I noticed. Maybe they got lousy product... I forgot to mention that in my prior post. Who knows for sure? I'm simply disappointed. I'm wondering what else I could add to the CB to make it "pop" a little more. Been thinking about a little normal saline. Still not sure.
Yes I really like the Creme Brulee. And I add the 7Star to everything here lately. I added a drop of vanilla flavored Vodka to my atomizer last time I filled up and I think it made something pop. It was real good. Added a bit more throat hit in a nice way. Just me. I try weird stuff all the time.
I go in streaks with some flavors too. Lately, it's been vanilla.Yes I really like the Creme Brulee. And I add the 7Star to everything here lately. I added a drop of vanilla flavored Vodka to my atomizer last time I filled up and I think it made something pop. It was real good. Added a bit more throat hit in a nice way. Just me. I try weird stuff all the time.
I've been reading up on different things I could add to the mix to enhance the flavor and I think the saline might be it. Although I keep seeing some peeps say that adding something like saline, ACV, etc can give a pop at first and then mute flavor later. Later rarely comes for me because I go through the juice quickly....lol So, I suppose nothing ventured, nothing gained. Gonna call the pharmacy and see if they can give me a little bit.
Apologies in advance for lousy spelling or formatting... just got back for eye doc and still can't see clearly......
I go in streaks with some flavors too. Lately, it's been vanilla.
I've been reading up on different things I could add to the mix to enhance the flavor and I think the saline might be it. Although I keep seeing some peeps say that adding something like saline, ACV, etc can give a pop at first and then mute flavor later. Later rarely comes for me because I go through the juice quickly....lol So, I suppose nothing ventured, nothing gained. Gonna call the pharmacy and see if they can give me a little bit.
Apologies in advance for lousy spelling or formatting... just got back for eye doc and still can't see clearly......
If your Saline Solution has Sodium Bicarbonate it will mute the flavor.
I use a Saline Solution with Sodium Chloride only and it hasn't muted my flavors. I found some Kosher Salt (No Additives) and mixed it with Distilled Water (.9 Grams Salt to 100ml Water).
Thanks for the heads up......
I'll have to ask at the pharmacy what is in the sol'n. I'm guessing the bicarb is there to help with the pH??As you mention, it may be best to make my own. The only thing I'll have trouble with is the scale..... mine is on the fritz and needs to be replaced. Better open a tab for eBay....
At least I'll know what's in it for sure if I DIY the saline.
Thanks for the heads up......
As you mention, it may be best to make my own. The only thing I'll have trouble with is the scale..... mine is on the fritz and needs to be replaced. Better open a tab for eBay....
At least I'll know what's in it for sure if I DIY the saline.
Just guessing: 1/4 teaspoon Salt (No Additives) in 100ml Distilled Water.
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Sounds good to me.... after all, we aren't trying to launch a lunar module here....lol. If it's in the ballpark, I'll be happy, especially considering I won't be spending much to make it. Doing grocery shopping this weekend, so will pick up some salt that is strictly NaCl.
I really appreciate your help!!!!!
You're welcome.
Like I said I found some Kosher Salt that didn't have any additives.
If anyone is still looking for good alternatives to VZ Gourmet Honey (which I agree was very good)-
Hangsen Honey Flavoring Concentrate 10ml - BuyHangsen.com
Miod (honey) - Vapers Tek
Hangsen Honey Flavoring Concentrate 10ml - BuyHangsen.com
Miod (honey) - Vapers Tek
Has anyone tried the Simply Saline by Arm & Hammer? It does not have any additives. Just wondering. Someone told me to try it.
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