Sore throat, can barely talk - could it be the liquid?

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I have been vaping since June 2012 and have experienced no problems before. I recently got a new juice, chocolate hazelnut, 30/70 vg/pg which is the same ratios I have used in the past and have such a sore throat I can barely talk. (There may be some people in my life really enjoying this.) ;) It started last Thursday morning, about 3 days after I began vaping the new juice, and is showing no sign of stopping. I am always careful to drink plenty of fluids. Mold is quite high in the ATX so coincidence and timing is possible but I have never had a reaction like this to mold.

Do I need to start vaping a higher vg liquid?
 

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Yeah I thought about sick too (I was sure I was at first), but no fever, no other issues (head or body aches, etc..) I don't feel bad other than my throat. It is red but no sign of infection (bumps or other junk). It is very possible it is the mold, I do react to that, I am not ruling it out but wanted to see if anyone else had similar experiences or if they were once able to tolerate something and over time had a change.
 

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could be the art. ingredients in the new juice , i know my throat doesnt fare well with heavily flavored and colored juices and some like the citrus based tear me up. if you havent had problems with this pg blend before i would look at the new juice as the culprit first.

That was what I wondered about, I got it from such a well rated vendor I didn't want to consider it at first. Not that I blame any vendor for my personal (possible) reaction! That is why I didn't name them in my post, I have enjoyed many other flavors from them with no adverse reaction.

I have some other juice, but it tastes like soap, I will suffer through with it until I can get something more and see if it helps.
 

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I have been vaping since June 2012 and have experienced no problems before. I recently got a new juice, chocolate hazelnut, 30/70 vg/pg which is the same ratios I have used in the past and have such a sore throat I can barely talk. (There may be some people in my life really enjoying this.) ;) It started last Thursday morning, about 3 days after I began vaping the new juice, and is showing no sign of stopping. I am always careful to drink plenty of fluids. Mold is quite high in the ATX so coincidence and timing is possible but I have never had a reaction like this to mold.

Do I need to start vaping a higher vg liquid?

Wow...

Sounds like someone Sneezed in your e-Liquid when they Mixed it.

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cant blame the vendor for a liquid we dont like or cant handle. there are many juices many people like that i think are intolerable, so just like everything taste is subjective. what i like others may not. as an example any juice i try with citric acid in it gives me immediate heart burn, yet others love some of these blends with no reaction.
it could be the mold as you say but then it would also mean every juice is doing the same thing.
 

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Sore throats are always a sign to see doctor. There are a million reasons why. My own doctor has many times told me, sniffles, aches, runny nose, post nasal drip, etc. could be cold, but always says "if you get a sore throat, please come in."

Until a culture is taken, you just don't know. A classmate once had a sore throat and 3 days later was dead from spinal meningitis. Just sayin'.

** ANY ex smoker should always have these things checked out. Even if we are vaping, we have done damage to our mouth, throat, esophagus, lungs when we smoked. These things always NEED to be monitored, esp. if there is something unusual happening! Vaping doesn't mean that everything you did as a smoker is "undone". You will have to monitor forever, really.

In your case, after seeking medical care, I would seek help from the vendor of THAT juice. Find out what the flavoring is, etc. Ask if they have anything w/similar ingredients that you can sample to see if it is the flavoring. Otherwise, you are left out in the dark and/or left never ordering from them again.

To me, this is what having a 'good' relationship with your vendor is all about. If you are a loyal customer and they can't or won't help you find a vape, can't offer any insight, then I would move on. Squirting some flavoring into so nic solution is something anybody can do at home. :) If you want more than that, from a "professional", then they should be able to answer those questions.

ASK them if they can mix you the same juice nic/ratio and just leave out "one" flavor. Then see if that helps. Ask them to help you so that you can continue to be a good customer. It is a win/win situation.

Sorry, but I've reached that point in my vaping journey. I operate under the assumption that juice mixers should know more about vaping than a kitchen table DIYer, and if they don't, then realize that all you are paying for then is "convenience", ie, having somebody else mix stuff for you. Not knowledgeable professionals.

I don't know any vendor that I deal with who has no concern for me as a person. If they have received orders from me for a while, and know my name, they are willing to help me not do harm to myself and/or customize my vaping experience. And I also appreciate if they are honest, ie. "we don't have the setup for X ratio of VG in our juice line" That's okay, too.....just let me know what I'm dealing with.

If they don't care......well........then they don't see an order again. :) People are making a good living off vapers. With that, there should be a strong customer service component but that is just my thinking.
 
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@gdaym8
Good replies from everyone here.

I am feeling kinda puny myself the last couple of days. So, I washed all my drip tips & soaked them in alcohol. Then I filled up a new cartomizer with unflavored ejuice. I did these things just in case my swollen glands & sore throat had anything to do with vaping.

Then I started drinking lots of OJ & grapefruit juice & took some aspirin. I will let my body handle the rest.

Hope you feel better soon.
 

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at 60 to 80 bucks a pop im sure he does lol.

i agree with the vendor/cust service and knowledge bit though, but asking for all kinds of samples can get pricey after awhile.

Thrasher, you make great points. All true.

However, nobody ever said solving a problem was easy.

Sometimes, it does involve some extra expense and effort.
I guess it depends on how major the problem is and/or how commited/anxious somebody is to solve it.

As someone who had gastro problems for 20 years and no relief from regular medical ideas, I spent the $$ work w/a nutritionist (not covered by my insurance) and embarked on a full fledged Elimination Hypo Allergenic Diet. Very hard and lots of discipline.

Outcome: 20 years of problems now solved. Was it worth it? YES.

Same w/vaping. Had to spend money I didn't have to get it all together. Had to budget or delete other stuff as a result. But I quit smoking. Was it worth it? YES.

If alll problems were a snap to solve, nobody would have any problems. ;)
 

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lol was kinda ribbing ya- but yea you are right, giving up fast food years ago was one of the toughest things i ever did. since then i never get heartburn, (funny how that worked)
now passing over things i used to enjoy because they contain art flavor, color, sweeteners or preservatives is tough and i dont always win.
like with chocolate, it makes me sad to read the Hershey package and see art flavor then paying almost twice that for "real" chocolate.

being healthy is never easy but i disagree with running to the doctor every time i have a runny nose just so they can say "yup you got a cold" 60 bucks please. same here i would at least give it a day or two to see if the coincidence of new juice and sore throat are connected.
 

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Thanks to all for the honest responses. I will see a doc if it doesn't go away or if other symptoms present themselves. My son is a director at a cancer center (you should hear his horror stories about doctors & treatment, they don't care about our health), a friend of mine just went through his 5th bout with cancer (never smoked) I am painfully aware of the toll my 40 years of smoking has caused me and pay attention to my body's warnings. I just hate drs after multiple bad experiences both personal, with family and several years in the HIV field.

I switched to the soap tasting juice I have this morning and my throat feels better, mold is still high so it is looking like it is the juice. I will contact the vendor to find out what I need to avoid in the future. I have other juice from them that has caused me no problems.
 

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I might have missed a previous post so I don't know if it was asked, but do you have any food allergies? It was one of my first thoughts when you mentioned the flavor (hazelnut). My girlfriend has an allergy to strawberries and as a quick test, she had me puff a small plume of vapor towards her to sniff at instead of her trying to actually vape it herself. She had a mild reaction to it (tossed her a bottle of Benedryl and all is perfectly fine) so we know now not to do any strawberry vaping in the apartment.

I don't know if this is due to natural flavoring, nor do I know if artificial flavors will have the same effect. Just to be on the safe side, she avoids any strawberry flavored juices.
 

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I might have missed a previous post so I don't know if it was asked, but do you have any food allergies? It was one of my first thoughts when you mentioned the flavor (hazelnut). My girlfriend has an allergy to strawberries and as a quick test, she had me puff a small plume of vapor towards her to sniff at instead of her trying to actually vape it herself. She had a mild reaction to it (tossed her a bottle of Benedryl and all is perfectly fine) so we know now not to do any strawberry vaping in the apartment.

I don't know if this is due to natural flavoring, nor do I know if artificial flavors will have the same effect. Just to be on the safe side, she avoids any strawberry flavored juices.

After reading all previous posts I would most certainly consider a food allergy to be the culprit. The flavorings in E-juice are commonly (always?) food flavorings; artificial or not some people do have a reaction to different ones. Good luck!
 

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No food allergies I am aware of, only allergies I know of are cedar and molds. I have scheduled a Dr appointment this afternoon since I woke up even worse today. Allergy meds aren't doing anything, saline spray not working, gargling with saltwater and vinegar, no help. Thought I best get checked for something more serious since it isn't going away 5 days in. I hope it isn't vaping in general but guess that could be better than some worse alternatives after 40 years smoking! I am well aware of what all those years did to my risk factors.
 

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You say you drink 'fluids'. Most 'fluids' are diuretics. For every 8 ounces of coffee, one needs 16 ounces of water to negate the diuretic effects of coffee. Your symptom is classic dehydration. Pinch the skin on the top of your hand while pulling upward & if it doesn't snap back immediately= dehydration. Put the tips of your fingers in a bowl of water for 2 minute & if they start showing signs of wrinkling=dehydration. The faster the wrinkles appear,the more dehydrated one is. These tests may be crude,but they work. all water is fluid,but not all fluid is water.
 
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Same thing happened to me. I switched juices right before I went on a trip. Of course. . the only juice I brought with me was the new stuff. By a week later I had a horrible sore throat, cracked dry lips and it hurt to drink hot beverages.

It was the juice - all my symptoms went away when I switched back to what I had been using. A few months later I got curious and tried that juice again - with the same result except I didn't keep it for a week the second time, lol.

The vendor is fine, lots of happy customers. Being the type of guy I am - I scoured the internet looking for anybody else complaining about this juice - nada. It wasn't a PG or VG allergy or anything like that. It's just that for some reason I have a reaction to this particular juice. Long story short . . .it's rare but it happens. Switch back and see if you're sore throat goes away.
 

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PG is very good at killing fungi and inhibiting mold, so if it is mold of some kind I doubt the new juice has anything to do with it.

Honestly, it sounds somewhat similar to what I have been dealing with for the last 6 days.

The following link I found this morning pretty much told me what I have...
http://www.health.arizona.edu/health_topics/general_health/phlegm.html

Those are exactly what my symptoms are, and have been.
Check and see if it fits what you're dealing with.
:)
 
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