Spearmint Gum Help Needed

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CallmeB

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I'm trying to get a Spearmint sweet gum flavor. I just got some EM and Sweet Cream (Everything I have is TFA) I'm going to try some mixes with this. I'm wondering if anyone had already figured this out yet? Save me a lot of trouble if you have. I'm thinking other than the Spearmint and the sweetener there is some other flavor hidden in spearmint gum that gives it body. Something like banana or Vanilla or something.
 

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Good tips. Ofc nothing I have here so I'd have to order it. This is a trend I'm getting used to. I don't understand why some of these flavors, like this Juicy Peach from TFA, smell so perfect, but have little or no taste at all. No matter how strong I mix them. I always start in the middle of where is suggested (10%-20% I choose 15%). Out of about 30 flavors I've only found 2 that I can stand. Some I just don't like, but some just have no flavor at all. I always mix each flavor by itself before mixing to know what I'm dealing with. About 1 in 5 might as well be scented PG.
 

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I got a pretty good chewed gum flavor with (EM 10%, Spearmint 6%, Wintergreen, Juicy Peach 5%, Koolada 1%) I doubled most of these flavors after tasting because the were very slight. I think the EM dumbed it all down. I prefer mouth watering flavors. Very sweet, but sweeteners seem to not be the path to this. I have EM, SweetCream, Sweetener, marshmallow. I have lots of other flavors, but I wouldn't think to use them for sweetening without they completely taking over, like the bananas and cream. All TFA btw.
 

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Good tips. Ofc nothing I have here so I'd have to order it. This is a trend I'm getting used to. I don't understand why some of these flavors, like this Juicy Peach from TFA, smell so perfect, but have little or no taste at all. No matter how strong I mix them. I always start in the middle of where is suggested (10%-20% I choose 15%). Out of about 30 flavors I've only found 2 that I can stand. Some I just don't like, but some just have no flavor at all. I always mix each flavor by itself before mixing to know what I'm dealing with. About 1 in 5 might as well be scented PG.

You might be over doing the flavor. 20% is typically high. I also use only tfa. Of all my recipes I think I have one that reaches 13% flavoring. Not saying I've mastered them all but I'd try testing at 5% for most flavors. My two cents such as it is. Btw tfa makes a bubble gum juicy style that's pretty spot on for juicy fruit. It's a bit sweet but I'm betting 2% would compliment your spearmint mix. I add it to a couple mint types and it's usually been good.
 

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You might be over doing the flavor. 20% is typically high. I also use only tfa. Of all my recipes I think I have one that reaches 13% flavoring. Not saying I've mastered them all but I'd try testing at 5% for most flavors. My two cents such as it is. Btw tfa makes a bubble gum juicy style that's pretty spot on for juicy fruit. It's a bit sweet but I'm betting 2% would compliment your spearmint mix. I add it to a couple mint types and it's usually been good.

Agreed, most of my TFA flavors I mix at around 5% also.
 

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Is it really true that mixing too high will actually dull the flavor? Please don't say yes unless you've seen it with your own tongue. lol I swear most of these flavors don't have any taste to me at all. I wonder if I"m not taste blind. But I have an excellent sense of smell and that's practically the same thing imo. they smell great, but mix em at any percent and nothing. Blueberry, watermelon, strawberry, blue berry candy, None of these have any flavor to me. Juicy Peach smells fantastic, but has little to no flavor. Is there something you can add to bring out flavors? Like when you add salt to hamburger to make it taste good. I've heard of ppl adding saline to mixes. What are your thoughts on this? I know when you add salt to things you're cooking it brings out the aroma which is odd because salt doesn't evaporate with water. Not sure how that works.
 

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Is it really true that mixing too high will actually dull the flavor? Please don't say yes unless you've seen it with your own tongue. lol I swear most of these flavors don't have any taste to me at all. I wonder if I"m not taste blind. But I have an excellent sense of smell and that's practically the same thing imo. they smell great, but mix em at any percent and nothing. Blueberry, watermelon, strawberry, blue berry candy, None of these have any flavor to me. Juicy Peach smells fantastic, but has little to no flavor. Is there something you can add to bring out flavors? Like when you add salt to hamburger to make it taste good. I've heard of ppl adding saline to mixes. What are your thoughts on this? I know when you add salt to things you're cooking it brings out the aroma which is odd because salt doesn't evaporate with water. Not sure how that works.

it maybe possible your tastebud deprived and the lack of buds has heightened your sense of smell , i myself cannot mix any regular flavs at 5% i just cant taste it but at 10-15% is fine but if you get to 20% or more it tends to taste like less
 

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It is really true. My mixes are 7%~11% on average but regardless 20% is generally considered to high. I will say I had trouble with their blueberry seeming untastable. That one idk what to tell you but the watermelon and peach I can somewhat taste at 5%. I think my watermelon menthol was 6% watermelon and 2% menthol. The fruit was a tad subtle but def there.
 

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there has got to be a faster way. If I followed that blog, It'd be 2025 before I had a handle on this. I mixed up some 30% Juicy Peach and I could taste it, but it was chemically and not very good. I think it needs something to bring out its flavor. this steeping drives me nuts. Really $10/10ml doesn't sound as bad to me now as it used to.
 

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Do you have a crock pot? Place your mixed juices in one about half full of water, set on warm to low for 4 hours. Shake em up good once or twice in the process. Once done, let them cool and rest a while, overnight if possible. Try em again..... should be pretty well done.

Once you have something you really like, you can make it far enough ahead of time that it's ready when your previous bottle is nearly gone.
 

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Yeah it took me one mistake with EM to realize I had way over done that. It's very hard for me to listen to other ppl's advice about things. I'm American and Americans are VERY cautious, er, at least they are when it comes to advice. I am not a very cautious person by nature. So, when a person says 5% I double that in my head. I'm learning that the vaping community is not really like this. Yeah I think a lot of you have some very sensitive taste buds, but overall the advice I get here is pretty on the money.

I think I'm just going to try this a different way. I'm going to find some recipes that are widely liked and then order the stuff to make them and get at least a few mixes that work. At the moment, after nearly 2 months, I have 2 flavors that work for me. Cinnamon Redhots and Banana Cream. Several of the other flavors taste as they do in real life, but I realized I don't like them.

The first flavor I ever tried was Cappuccino and I liked it. Not sure I will now though. At the time I was just surprised that it was ok. I have CC from TFA and I just mixed a new recipe that seems should give a good flavor.
CC 3%
Sweet Cream 5%
EM 1%
Sweetener 5%
English Toffee 10% **(50/50 18mg)
 

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The best thing I can tell you is READ LOTS. There are lots of threads on starting percentages for each brand of flavoring. Really start at the lowest and work your way up slowly. I personally have not had CC from TFA but I have read it is very strong. You need to know your flavors before you will mix good juice. Best advice I got is to mix each flavor by themselves until you find the percentage that is best for you. Until you do that I think you may waste lots of juice making things way over-flavored. Good luck to you!

Also I'd leave out the additives until you know your flavors too. You don't know what they are doing to your mix. Just my :2c:
 
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