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[Wheelin247]

Yes i can see why ramp up time would be a problem. Makes sense to keep it relatively simpler.

Also can i say this, I don't live in the US or any western country that fda has control over. But i think people are over hyping the seriousness of the situation.
I don't think that they can completely ban a product that has such a huge market, I don't think they can get even close to making something like this possible.
I know about what happened in Europe about the capacity of the e-liquid bottles. But there are ways to easily work around that.
So tell me this... Why are people exaggerating it upto this extent?
Do you really actually think that such a huge market can be shut down?
Again, no offense meant . Just trying to understand the situation.

Oh and about the ohms law, I think i have a good handle on that. Considering how I've been taught to use that in school since i was like 13 years old. And i have used it plenty in my science labs to say that i can calculate it without even having to think about it. But I agree that one must be absolutely sure because a small mistake can be a pretty big deal in this case.

Like TJ99959 said FDA will make it where the devices and attys wont be able to be sold. Same with eliquid. That's why so many people (as myself) have gone to making their own juice, not so mention it's a hella lot cheaper (120ml bottle of my own juice cost me maybe $3-$4 USD). FDA won't be able to do anything as far as the flavoring but the nic base is where they would .... that down so that's why everybody is stocking up on nic base when they see sales going on during holidays and such.

Also no offense taken my friend!


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[tj99959]

But i don't understand. On what grounds is fda doing this?

They "Deemed" e-cigarettes a tobacco product with a deeming date of 2007.
I doubt that any of us want to use the "grandfathered" products that were on the market in the US before that date.

 

[Wheelin247]

Wow. I wasn't aware that it has already been finalized.
But i don't understand. On what grounds is fda doing this?
Vaping has done nothing but help people get their lives back in control to some extent atleast.
I'm sorry i don't know this but is there any document that states what's legal and what's not? Or what's acceptable and what's not?
And frankly if anything should be banned, shouldn't it be the unregulated stuff? Considering that the regulated stuff has more safety features?
Also is this happening only in the US?

It's really not about the FDA, it's about big tobacco. People are getting off cigarettes and BT is loosing money everyday.

The unregulated/regulated hasn't been brought up that I know of but I e been know to be wrong a few times in my lifetime lol.


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[Kprthevapr]

Fair point. But lemme ask you this.
Not as a counter to your response but just a question
Why would i wanna open and clean a regulated mod and how would that affect the performance in any way?
Firstly there's not much open space anyway so the dirt can't enter it. Then even if it does...how does that affect anything?
Please don't think I'm countering you. Just asking politely.

Lol. Thanks [emoji14] *chirps like a grasshopper*

Say for instance, you notice juice in the battery compartment, how did it get there? Does mod work right? No, lol
Over juicing and dead boards are the main reasons to open one up
Some people with a higher knowledge of regulated mods fix theirs all the time. It's just not for me
Don't get me wrong, I just rebuilt my RDA on my Tesla nano
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[tj99959]

The unregulated/regulated hasn't been brought up that I know of but I e been know to be wrong a few times in my lifetime lol.

Actually back in the day, regulated mods were few & far between, and many of them were not all that good. So many of us built our own.

Here is an example of the type of mods that we were building back then.
http://www.howder.com/dena_howto.pdf

 

[Cf11]

I see what you guys are saying. But I can't seem to understand the reason that they're doing this.
Isn't FDA supposed to be a non partial organization and make decisions that favor public health and all that?
So what if big tobacco is loosing money. FDA in no way should be affiliated with them and hence it shouldn't matter to them. Am I wrong to think this?
I can understand the restrictions on nicotine but why the hardware?
Edit - someone please tell me if this is only happening in the US or is it a worldwide thing? @tj99959 @Wheelin247

 

[Cf11]

Say for instance, you notice juice in the battery compartment, how did it get there? Does mod work right? No, lol
Over juicing and dead boards are the main reasons to open one up
Some people with a higher knowledge of regulated mods fix theirs all the time. It's just not for me
Don't get me wrong, I just rebuilt my RDA on my Tesla nano
Down the rabbit hole
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Yeh that makes sense. I'd imagine that the liquid that gets in can cause serious damage.
And also the boards can live only so much before they malfunction.
You're really tempting me towards mechs now, "The Mech Whisperer" at work.

Is that a goon? Or at least seems like a goon style deck. Is it?

 

[r77r7r]

Actually back in the day, regulated mods were few & far between, and many of them were not all that good. So many of us built our own.

Here is an example of the type of mods that we were building back then.
http://www.howder.com/dena_howto.pdf

Were you ever able to acquire a Mamu built mod? I know she was still active @ VF for quite a while.

 

[Wheelin247]

Yeh that makes sense. I'd imagine that the liquid that gets in can cause serious damage.
And also the boards can live only so much before they malfunction.
You're really tempting me towards mechs now, "The Mech Whisperer" at work.

Is that a goon? Or at least seems like a goon style deck. Is it?

Once you go mech you won't like regulated mods as much. Mechs are more of a purist vape and your more in tune with your device.


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[Cf11]

Once you go mech you won't like regulated mods as much. Mechs are more of a purist vape and your more in tune with your device.


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I hope that day comes very soon then
I know that there are mech mods that have some kind of a chipset with some safety features.
Are they any good? Or full mech is the way to go?

 

[Wheelin247]

I hope that day comes very soon then
I know that there are mech mods that have some kind of a chipset with some safety features.
Are they any good? Or full mech is the way to go?

If your building the coils to the batteries that are being used you shouldn't have to rely on any safety features in the mod. There again if the chip goes bad are you able to fix it without having to buy a new mod? I go fully mech. You can also look at unregulated boxes along with mech boxes. Unregulated is kind of like a mech. A mech has no wires and all hard contact points to transfer the batteries power to the atty while unregulated mods have wires soldered to the contacts that transfer the power to the atty. the one difference is if a wire comes unsoldered you will either have to find someone to solder it or do it yourself where mechs you don't have to worry about that.

Boxes are a personal preference for me. They stand up a lot better than tube mods cause they have more to stand on instead of just the fire button on a tube.


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[tj99959]

Were you ever able to acquire a Mamu built mod? I know she was still active @ VF for quite a while.

No damnet! But, I did build several using her diagrams. Would you believe I missed by one post TWICE on VF. It was fun crashing the server over there when she put one up.

I was well into mechanicals by then though. And I'll be quick to point out that there has NEVER been a need to go sub ohm with a mechanical! Preference .. yes, need .. never.

 

[vapdivrr]

Once you go mech you won't like regulated mods as much. Mechs are more of a purist vape and your more in tune with your device.


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I think it's more the other way... I think most who use to use mechs and tried regulated switched, and never went back. I started out a mech user because that's what was more readily available and I loved them for a couple years, but once the dna got to 20 and 30, I never really went back. I do however love the looks of a good old tube though

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[Wheelin247]

I think it's more the other way... I think most who use to use mechs and tried regulated switched, and never went back. I started out a mech user because that's what was more readily available and I loved them for a couple years, but once the dna got to 20 and 30, I never really went back. I do however love the looks of a good old tube though

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Mostly everyone I talk to around my area in central Florida (friends and other capers I see using mechs) started off on regulated devices because we had no clue how to build coils and what ohms law is. Everyone switched to mechs and haven't gone back to the regs.


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[vapdivrr]

Mostly everyone I talk to around my area in central Florida (friends and other capers I see using mechs) started off on regulated devices because we had no clue how to build coils and what ohms law is. Everyone switched to mechs and haven't gone back to the regs.


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Hey I'm in sarasota.... well tbh I don't know the statistics but it seems like there is alot both ways... I personally know many that use to vape mechs but don't anymore but as long as we're all vaping , it awesome

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[classwife]

I'm in between y'all...and I like both my mechs and my regulated mods

 

[Wheelin247]

Hey I'm in sarasota.... well tbh I don't know the statistics but it seems like there is alot both ways... I personally know many that use to vape mechs but don't anymore but as long as we're all vaping , it awesome

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Yeah that's true.

I'm in Lakeland. What do you think about all this rain we have had? At least we're not down in south Florida! Even though we need the rain I'm glad we aren't getting drenched like they are. It's funny cause we've been in a drought then in the matter of a day we have 1"-4" of rain and some places a little more or less.


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[Wheelin247]

I'm in between y'all...and I like both my mechs and my regulated mods

At first I thought you were going to say that you were in between us as in area...but your talking mods..lol :alm face::


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[puffon]

I'm in between y'all...and I like both my mechs and my regulated mods

Ditto!
(we need more rain)

 

[classwife]

At first I thought you were going to say that you were in between us as in area...but your talking mods..lol :alm face::


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...look at my location