Squonking with adapters and cartos??

[Chinner]

Hey guys, I'm a fairly new reo owner, and I have a couple questions.

I started using my reo woodvil with a regular aw IMR 18650 and a LR 510 atty. Everything was cool, but I'm a Th seeker, so I wanted to step it up. I've since started using the 5v batteries and have been experimenting using an adapter and my bloog 808 cartos.

First off, the drenched bloogs at 5v are amazing. Perfect vape and Th with good flavor. What I'm confused about is Squonking with carto's using adapters. When I squonk, the juice goes right up the air tube, and I'm usually left with a full catch cup and a mouth full of juice (unless I remove the cart and blow it all out).

Is there something I'm missing here, or am I simply using a bad combo here with the 808 cartos with the adapter?

Any advice would be much appreciated!

P.s. I love my reo's!

 

[wigglr]

I find dual coils at 6V give you a good throat hit. Surprisingly amazing flavor

 

[nerak]

You only need to squonk a little bit. Sounds like you are giving it too much juice. The cartos require only a small amount every so often. I usually draw on mine while giving a gentle push on the bottle. When I start to hear the gurgle I quit. Have had no problem with this method.

 

[Bogey]

Not sure this is the case, but a lot of people seem to want to squonk carto's like the squonk atty's. Most carto's carry over 1ml of juice with them and don't require the amount of sqonking an atty does. I treat squonking carto's like I treated carto's before I had a reo (well kinda). I treat it like "topping off". I vape on the carto for awhile (sometimes 10 minutes or so) then I squonk while drawing (no power hit). I do a few rapid draws to clear the air tube then go back to vaping. For awhile I would just pop off the drip tip and look at the top. If it looked slushy and wet, all was good. If it still looked a bit dry, I squonked again. After doing that for awhile I got used to when to squonk and what "wet" vs "dry" vaped like and didn't need to look so often.

Hope that helps.

 

[Chinner]

Thanks guys it all is very helpful!

I'm perfecting my technique here I guess lol, was mostly wondering if maybe the adapter was the culprit. If I squonk lightly I don't really notice the carto being filled, unless I over squonk and it will come out of the air tube and spill over into the filler.

So I've been taking the dry (no power) hit while Squonking like you said and waiting for the slight air restriction. Even though I can't really see anything happening, I suppose it's working. I was worried that when I squonk, it only comes up the air tube, and doesn't hit the filler but maybe I'm wrong.

Thanks again for the help guys!

 

[Bogey]

Yep. Actually thats what I try and achieve (getting it to come up the air tube and roll over to the fiber). It's kinda the bass ackwards way of topping off a carto that others use, which is just dripping on the top of the fiber.

Thats why I will take two or three light quick draws to clear the air tube and go back to vaping. I however use primarily 80/20 pg/vg. I don't know if that technique would work well with all or high VG. Others might be able to chime in on that.

 

[Chinner]

So the juice won't hit the filler unless it comes up through the air tube then?

I've been trying this with 50/50 juice mix, but I can never clear the air tube without removing the carto, and I always end up with a puddle in the catch cup. Maybe I should go back to atties??

Yep. Actually thats what I try and achieve (getting it to come up the air tube and roll over to the fiber). It's kinda the bass ackwards way of topping off a carto that others use, which is just dripping on the top of the fiber.

Thats why I will take two or three light quick draws to clear the air tube and go back to vaping. I however use primarily 80/20 pg/vg. I don't know if that technique would work well with all or high VG. Others might be able to chime in on that.

 

[Bogey]

I wouldn't give up yet until a few more chime in. Honestly I don't know if the air tube is the only channel to get to the filler but thats what I would assume. I did use the method I described above with 100%vg boba's bounty when I tried it. I used it in a boge carto and it did absorb when I drew it up to the top, albeit slowly. Again, I just squonked it up and then let it absorb into the filler from the top. A few unpowered draws to clear the channel and it was fine.

Anyone else here have an opinion or advice? I don't want to provide Chinner bad info, just passing on what has worked for me.

 

[Chinner]

Hey man there's no such thing as bad info! I really appreciate it!

I just tried again, the problem seems to be that when i squonk, the carto saturates just fine, but there is a lot of juice wasted in the catch cup. Even when I remove the carto and blow it out, I put it back on and when I draw it seems to be pulling juice from the juice well through the air tube instead of air. I haven't been able to squonk without also filling the juice well, and once it's full, I have to sponge out the liquid with a Kleenex before I can get a proper draw again. Been wasting a lot of juice today like this.

I've considered screwing it down harder, but I don't want to ruin my beautiful woodvil by over screwing a cheap 510-808 adapter on it.. There has to be something I'm missing here lol.

I will say this, when i do get a clean hit with 5v on this set up, it's enough thick delicious vape to choke a horse. If I could vape an easy 6ml of trouble free juice like this, it would be perfect! Unfortunately I think I've drank more juice then I vaped today Hahah

Thanks for all your help bogey!

 

[Bogey]

No problem Chinner. I am beginning to think it's the adapter based on that description.

 

[Dusty_D]

Dude, this seriously sounds like you are over-squonking and the carto is not absorbing all the juice that's coming up into it soon enough. The remainder will ofcourse drain out into the catch-cup. How often are you squonking? Are you giving the carto time to use up some of the juice already in it?

Another thing, could the central air channel not be absorbing the juice at all? In that event only the juice that travels up through the air channel and into the filler material would get absorbed, which would be a little at a time.

We'll investigate this further at the next meet..

 

[Chinner]

I dont think I'm over Squonking. It seems like the only juice that will make it to the filler is the air tube stuff, but I have to squonk pretty hard to get it to come up the tube and over into the filler. I remove my drip tip and watch for it to come up and over, and stop as soon as the juice hits the filler. At this point though, the catch cup is usually also full, so any time I drag off it it's pulling juice from the juice well into the air tube, then right in my mouth lol.. I tried screwing the carto down harder, and it seems to help a bit, but still not perfect.

I'll bring it to the next meet dusty, and may even call you out of frustration before then haha.. Maybe our MV stuff will arrive, and I'll have an excuse to come meet you somewhere and show you what's going on lol.

Thanks everyone!

Dude, this seriously sounds like you are over-squonking and the carto is not absorbing all the juice that's coming up into it soon enough. The remainder will ofcourse drain out into the catch-cup. How often are you squonking? Are you giving the carto time to use up some of the juice already in it?

Another thing, could the central air channel not be absorbing the juice at all? In that event only the juice that travels up through the air channel and into the filler material would get absorbed, which would be a little at a time.

We'll investigate this further at the next meet..

 

[marcellus7]

I was doing the same thing with my Grand I just got. I learned the trick for me was to do a lot of quick pulls while lightly squonking until it got nice and slushy and the top, then let it sit for a while and repeat if necessary. Don't do one big squonk like the condom method, just lightly pull on the tip and repeatedy lightly squonk until it fills up. Let go of the bottle as soon as you get a little resistance from the juice. Do the same thing to top it off when necessary.

 

[Chinner]

Thus is almost the best advice yet! So you are confirming that my juice will indeed reach the filler material without having to squonk it up and out of the air tube? I was concerned that the juice was ONLY entering the carto through that air tube.


Thanks a bunch!

I was doing the same thing with my Grand I just got. I learned the trick for me was to do a lot of quick pulls while lightly squonking until it got nice and slushy and the top, then let it sit for a while and repeat if necessary. Don't do one big squonk like the condom method, just lightly pull on the tip and repeatedy lightly squonk until it fills up. Let go of the bottle as soon as you get a little resistance from the juice. Do the same thing to top it off when necessary.

 

[marcellus7]

Im not totally sure if it is or not actually, lol. I think some many be entering through the bottom, and some through the air tube. Thats why I let it sit for a few minutes and check again to see if it needs to be topped off again.

 

[nerak]

You know, I never look inside with my cartos. I just give a little squonk when it seems to drop off in vapor. Basically I use it just like a atty, blink squonk while drawing, then hit it. With 7 REO's used in rotation, all with different atty's or cartos, I usally don't even know which I have on when I pick it up. I just hit it and vape, if it is not right, I squonk and hit again. It is just so freaking easy!!!

 

[canoeist]

Karen, you have too many Reos in rotation. Why don't you send me a woodvil to lessen your confusion? Glad to help

 

[Chinner]

I was doing the same thing with my Grand I just got. I learned the trick for me was to do a lot of quick pulls while lightly squonking until it got nice and slushy and the top, then let it sit for a while and repeat if necessary. Don't do one big squonk like the condom method, just lightly pull on the tip and repeatedy lightly squonk until it fills up. Let go of the bottle as soon as you get a little resistance from the juice. Do the same thing to top it off when necessary.

So I've been working on this technique all day and I must give credit where it's due. This method seems to be the best so far, I can do it blind if I pull lightly and wait for resistance from the squonk. I've been doing this when the cargo looks dry, and I'm happy to announce I havent had a mouthful of juice yet! They have been filling properly without clogging the airtube so far. And my catch cup has been dry!

I also tightened down the carto and adapter, which also seemed to help with the mess!

Thanks to everyone who chipped in here with helpful advice!

 

[Dusty_D]

So I've been working on this technique all day and I must give credit where it's due. This method seems to be the best so far, I can do it blind if I pull lightly and wait for resistance from the squonk. I've been doing this when the cargo looks dry, and I'm happy to announce I havent had a mouthful of juice yet! They have been filling properly without clogging the airtube so far. And my catch cup has been dry!

I also tightened down the carto and adapter, which also seemed to help with the mess!

Thanks to everyone who chipped in here with helpful advice!

Attaboy! Nicely done.. keep working on it, and you can show me what to do when the dual coils get here.

 

[nerak]

Now, now Bill! I love the rotation! Batteries and juice, and attys, and cartos, OH MY! Oh, the Woodvils, they just told me they want to stay!!! Sorry!

Karen, you have too many Reos in rotation. Why don't you send me a woodvil to lessen your confusion? Glad to help