SS Groove vs Itazte MVP ?

[DavidOck]

"Stacked" isn't an electrical term, but if it came from putting two batteries into a tube, like in a flashlight, then it must mean they are in series, which does mean the total voltage is the sum of the seriesed batteries.

In other configurations, i.e. a flat pack or a box, they could be (but don't have to be) in parallel, which keeps the voltage the same but effectively doubles (if two and they are equal) the current.

Think about jump starting a car. If you do it right, the dead battery gets the 12 volts from the good one, and the starter spins. Do them wrong, and you put 24 volts into both cars. Not good, in that instance, but a good example of the difference between series and parallel battery connection.

Nat having taken apart either of the devices under discussion, I don't know which connection is used. But in either case, the electronics regulate the output voltage. I have seen pic of the MVP battery, and it seems they are in parallel connection (pictures weren't good enough on the wiring portion to be sure), so they would be using the 3.7 LI cell voltage, and doubling the current.

 

[ardvaark]

wrong. Read this thread. What you're saying might be do-able, I don't know, but they stack batteries to get the volts higher.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...any-mahs-battery-really-email-itaste-mvp.html

MVP has 2 stacked 2200mah batteries, but is truly only 2600mahs in total, not 4400mahs. The Groove probably has something like two stacked 3400mah batteries to get the volts high and the final mahs at 3800, not two 1900mah batteries like you say. I guess the mahs aren't written on the Groove's batteries.

lol that you butchered that mod like that with electrical tape and all to save half an inch but made the other way bigger to fit in your shirt pocket. Looks like a terrorist device if you're not vaping it.

Thank you for clarifying the technical aspects of my adventure, I'm certainly no engineer. I do however enjoy a high level of ingenuity.IMHO I will change to the black electrical tape to red, white and blue. That should keep the FBI from tackling me to the ground someday while I'm at a Starbucks enjoying a Mocha Latte. As far as the tube type mods are concerned, I can't think of anything that looks more like a terrorist device, looks a pipe bomb with a built-in timer device at one end.

 

[DavidOck]

Seems I need better pictures

If Innokin says "not 4400 mahs", then they are in series, increasing the voltage.

 

[ardvaark]

"Stacked" isn't an electrical term, but if it came from putting two batteries into a tube, like in a flashlight, then it must mean they are in series, which does mean the total voltage is the sum of the seriesed batteries.

In other configurations, i.e. a flat pack or a box, they could be (but don't have to be) in parallel, which keeps the voltage the same but effectively doubles (if two and they are equal) the current.

Think about jump starting a car. If you do it right, the dead battery gets the 12 volts from the good one, and the starter spins. Do them wrong, and you put 24 volts into both cars. Not good, in that instance, but a good example of the difference between series and parallel battery connection.

Nat having taken apart either of the devices under discussion, I don't know which connection is used. But in either case, the electronics regulate the output voltage. I have seen pic of the MVP battery, and it seems they are in parallel connection (pictures weren't good enough on the wiring portion to be sure), so they would be using the 3.7 LI cell voltage, and doubling the current.

Thank you also for clarifying the technical stuff. Yes, the batteries are indeed wired in parallel and not stacked.

 

[frankfennel]

If Innokin says "not 4400 mahs", then they are in series, increasing the voltage.

I think what you mean is both MVP and Groove are in series AKA 'stacked', right? Neither are in parallel because, while paralleling would double the mAhs, it wouldn't increase the Volts and would only be something like 3.7 V for either MOD, right?

Do you know if either were in parallel to double the mAhs but not increase the volts like being put in series, and the highest volts were only something like 3.7, then we could just use low ohm coils and get the benefit of more mAhs? I think most would prefer that than the batteries in series for more volts.

 

[DavidOck]

From the cited email from Innokin, the MVP appears to be series, as the message was clearly "not 4400".

Yes, if parallel the voltage would be the "standard" Lion value, nominally 3.7.

But the regulator could be stepping up the voltage, at a net loss of efficiency. Series (stacked??) would make more sense. Less system losses in lowering the voltage than in stepping it up.

I'd guess the Groove is the same, but don't know.

 

[Butters78]

I got my groove I like it thus far. I wanted to check it before I charged and it wouldn't come on with the 5 clicks. The battery was dead which is odd because it seems everyone else got theirs with a partial charge mine wouldn't even boot lol. So it's charging here at work atm.

 

[Butters78]

I really like the led it's my first. The plastic feels solid.

 

[Butters78]

Takes forever to charge tthough, been stuck on 4.1. How do I know it's full?

 

[ardvaark]

Takes forever to charge though, been stuck on 4.1. How do I know it's full?

Right when you unplug it from charging the battery symbol shows remaining battery. If its a picture of a full battery, then its full. 4.1 is the highest I've seen mine charge to.

 

[ardvaark]

I got my groove I like it thus far. I wanted to check it before I charged and it wouldn't come on with the 5 clicks. The battery was dead which is odd because it seems everyone else got theirs with a partial charge mine wouldn't even boot lol. So it's charging here at work atm.

Ditto, mine was DOA also. Had to charge it first.

 

[txtumbleweed]

Takes forever to charge tthough, been stuck on 4.1. How do I know it's full?

4.1 is a full charge.

 

[Butters78]

Thanks guys! Yeah it was full at 4.1..

I like it, can do more watts than my kick. Not for stealth at work like I planned but definitely great for home and trips to the store etc. The mvp will be for work. That YouTube reviewer can't be right all the time lol.

 

[DavidOck]

Can you charge the Groove from the MVP?

And what size did the Groove charging port turn out to be?

 

[Butters78]

Can you charge the Groove from the MVP?

And what size did the Groove charging port turn out to be?

That would cause a rip in the space time continuim. Lolz

Mini, mvp and my cell are micro. Wish they were all compatible but I digress.

 

[DavidOck]

Compatability means you can get adapters for the adapters.

 

[Butters78]

Can you charge the Groove from the MVP?

I had to do it lol..

 

[ardvaark]

I had to do it lol..

OMG! their both going to leak on your bed!! lol
Unless those are cartos. Had me scared for a minute...
Is the iTaste powered by a small nuclear reactor? If so I might have to get one.
How do we really know that the Groove isn't charging the iTaste???

 

[Butters78]

OMG! their both going to leak on your bed!! lol
Unless those are cartos. Had me scared for a minute...

LOL they are protanks, wouldn't be the first time I spilt ejuice on the bed.

 

[DavidOck]

Cool!

Of course, with the MVP at 2600 and the Groove at 3800, you won't be able to fully charge if from dead