ss316l in power and TC mode

[VapeonLivelong]

Hi folks,
I am using ijoy Captain PD270.
Using ss316l reading .28 ohms, for the 1st time.
Can a veteran please guide me how do I go about it?
Currently vaping @ 40 w
300 C.
What connection does wattage have? I thought in TC mode you basically just increase or decrease the temp and in Wattage mode increase or decrease the watts.
Kindly advise.

 

[Tonee N]

Wattage is going to be the ramp up time to the temperature that you set.
Are you having issues changing the wattage in TC mode?

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[VapeonLivelong]

Wattage is going to be the ramp up time to the temperature that you set.
Are you having issues changing the wattage in TC mode?

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No. Not having issues changing wattage in TC mode.
My query is that currently I'm vaping at 30w 250c.
If I increase the temp do I need to increase the watts as well?

 

[bombastinator]

Hi folks,
I am using ijoy Captain PD270.
Using ss316l reading .28 ohms, for the 1st time.
Can a veteran please guide me how do I go about it?
Currently vaping @ 40 w
300 C.
What connection does wattage have? I thought in TC mode you basically just increase or decrease the temp and in Wattage mode increase or decrease the watts.
Kindly advise.

If you think of electricity as if it were a water hose, volts is the size of the hose, watts is how much pressure is in the hose, and amps is how big the water tank is.
So to get heat out of a coil you run electricity through it. More heat requires more watts... unless I have the two backwards. Does that help at all?

 

[Tonee N]

No, you don't need to increase the watts, it will just ramp up slower to the temperature you have it set at.
Hth

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[VapeonLivelong]

No, you don't need to increase the watts, it will just ramp up slower to the temperature you have it set at.
Hth

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Okay. So if I want the coil to heat faster at 250C. I need to increase the wattage?

 

[Tonee N]

Okay. So if I want the coil to heat faster at 250C. I need to increase the wattage?

Yes sir.

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[VapeonLivelong]

Yes sir.

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Thanks boss.
Now I've set the wattage to 100
Temp 250c okayish?

 

[Tonee N]

Thanks boss.
Now I've set the wattage to 100
Temp 250c okayish?

I would start a bit lower and work your way up to what is comfortable first.

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[VapeonLivelong]

I would start a bit lower and work your way up to what is comfortable first.

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You mean the watts? Right?

 

[Tonee N]

You mean the watts? Right?

Correct, nobody likes the taste of burnt cotton[emoji6]

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[VapeonLivelong]

Correct, nobody likes the taste of burnt cotton[emoji6]

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No vapor will disagree on that
Okay I've set it @ 75w 300C seems to be fine

 

[Jim_ MDP]

No. Not having issues changing wattage in TC mode.
My query is that currently I'm vaping at 30w 250c.
If I increase the temp do I need to increase the watts as well?

No. The first thing you probably need to do is... turn down the temp.

That 300C is about 570F, and 250C is still up around 470F.
We're normally shooting for around 420F/215C, then adjusting for preference.

Now... that 40W on a 0.28 coil in yourOP doesn't sound out of line at all, but it could be a bit underpowered depending on the style of coil or coils in the build.
In Temp Control mode, the main purpose of raising the wattage is to shorten the "ramp-up" time. A large, complex dual coil build will take an uncomfortably long time to get up to temp without enough power.
Then... TC will throttle back the power to maintain the set temp. That's what it does.

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While typing this, you and Tonee have been posting, and nobody's mentioned the 300C elephant in the room.

That's only workable if there's something not quite right with your setup.

You should be around 215 to 230 C and 40 watts or a bit more. The power is less of an issue if the mod is quick enough to keep 100W from overshooting and burning the wick.


Tell us...
What mod? (Has someone been playing with the TCR values?)
What atomizer?
What coil or coils (wire size, single, dual, plain wire, twisted, Clapton etc... that sort of thing)?

eta: Sorry... I see the ijoy now in the OP, looking it up.

 

[VapeonLivelong]

No. The first thing you probably need to do is... turn down the temp.

That 300C is about 570F, and 250C is still up around 470F.
We're normally shooting for around 420F/215C, then adjusting for preference.

Now... that 40W on a 0.28 coil in yourOP doesn't sound out of line at all, but it could be a bit underpowered depending on the style of coil or coils in the build.
In Temp Control mode, the main purpose of raising the wattage is to shorten the "ramp-up" time. A large, complex dual coil build will take an uncomfortably long time to get up to temp without enough power.
Then... TC will throttle back the power to maintain the set temp. That's what it does.

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While typing this, you and Tonee have been posting, and nobody's mentioned the 300C elephant in the room.

That's only workable if there's something not quite right with your setup.

You should be around 215 to 230 C and 40 watts or a bit more. The power is less of an issue if the mod is quick enough to keep 100W from overshooting and burning the wick.


Tell us...
What mod? (Has someone been playing with the TCR values?)
What atomizer?
What coil or coils (wire size, single, dual, plain wire, twisted, Clapton etc... that sort of thing)?

eta: Sorry... I see the ijoy now in the OP, looking it up.

Ok. I'd appreciate step by step guidance
Coil is ss316l, single build, .28ohms.
Mod is ijoy Captain pd270.
Tank is engine nano
Tcrm1 0.00092
Tcrm2 0.00100

 

[Jim_ MDP]

Ok. I'd appreciate step by step guidance
Coil is ss316l, single build, .28ohms.
Mod is ijoy Captain pd270.
Tank is engine nano
Tcrm1 0.00092
Tcrm2 0.00100

I'd still say... set 40W and 215C and tell us what happens.

If that's a straight single coil, 40-50 W should be more than enough. A particularly fat wire will allow more metal (lower res per length) and need more power to heat. Adjust to suit your needs.

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The first user register's 92 is pretty standard for 316, some mods' factory programming is a bit lower, in the mid 80's, but I've personally used up to around 120 when a build is being a problem. It's not a long term solution, it usually means something isn't right with the build or the mod... but hey... I get lazy.
Bumping it up will trick the mod into heating the coil above actual set temp, and producing vapor when it otherwise wouldn't... but it offsets where the dry hit protection might kick in (same deal with manually setting the resistance higher than it actually is).

Use the default SS TC mode (it should be 86-92) and later compare it with those two User settings. In other words... get it working as the designer intended, then play around getting it set to suit you.

 

[Hawise]

Here's how watts work in TC mode:

Say you set your temp to 215 C and your watts to 60. You press fire, and your coil is hit with 60 watts until it reaches 215 C. Then the TC kicks in and drops your wattage to whatever it needs to keep the temp at 215 C. It's not a fixed wattage as the coil would tend to heat up more over time, so the mod is constantly readjusting the watts.

The watt setting (60, in the example) is what the mod has available to work with. If you set it way too low, you won't reach your set temperature and the TC controls will never be activated. If it's just a little too low, it might take a long time for your coil to heat up. If you set it too high, you can burn your wick almost instantly before temperature control has a chance to kick in.

As @Jim_ MDP mentioned, 300 C is extremely high. I don't know if you're reaching it with those settings, but you probably wouldn't like it much if you did. You might try starting at 200 C. Vape for a bit, then turn it up to see how that goes. Your preferred temperature settings are just that - a matter of preference, so you'll have to work it out for yourself.

 

[VapeonLivelong]

I'd still say... set 40W and 215C and tell us what happens.

If that's a straight single coil, 40-50 W should be more than enough. A particularly fat wire will allow more metal (lower res per length) and need more power to heat. Adjust to suit your needs.

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The first user register's 92 is pretty standard for 316, some mods' factory programming is a bit lower, in the mid 80's, but I've personally used up to around 120 when a build is being a problem. It's not a long term solution, it usually means something isn't right with the build or the mod... but hey... I get lazy.
Bumping it up will trick the mod into heating the coil above actual set temp, and producing vapor when it otherwise wouldn't... but it offsets where the dry hit protection might kick in (same deal with manually setting the resistance higher than it actually is).

Use the default SS TC mode (it should be 86-92) and later compare it with those two User settings. In other words... get it working as the designer intended, then play around getting it set to suit you.

Got a dry hit at the 40w 315C.
TCR m1 won't make a difference if I using tcSS and not TCR right?

 

[Jim_ MDP]

Got a dry hit at the 40w 315C.
TCR m1 won't make a difference if I using tcSS and not TCR right?

I had a typo in my post... set about 215C, not 315.

As for your settings, I don't know that mod or its' menu system... the user adjustable TCRs could be a separate select-able "mode" for each (like JoyeTech/Eleaf/Wismec), or it could be a parameter set to be used in "SS TC" mode (like SMOK... IIRC).

I'm guessing it's the first, in which case... no, the user setting doesn't change the programmed value in the default SS TC mode.
Just a guess though.

 

[Tonee N]

On the OP's Ijoy Captain the SS is separate from the TCR settings.

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[93gc40]

FIRST you need to understand how a vape works... battery supplies VOLTAGE to the coil to produce wattage... TC and VW are the math formulas the mod uses to determine how many volts to supply. VW regulates to a set wattage target. . TC regulates to Set temp mode.. Wattage in TC is there to limit max power to coil and speed of heatup.

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