Stainless Steel and colored Lava Tubes are back (reg and mini) at Apollo for anyone waiting...

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orachel

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Decided to bail on the stainless. I just bought a mini ProVari, and asked Apollo to send me a red instead.

Well, that's the best of both worlds! Good for you! I'd do the same, but for budget. Think I'd still go stainless LT though, since it seems they've made some other upgrades to those models, and won't have to worry about cap cracking. The red is pretty, though! Its a rather magenta-y color. Well, the first run reds were, but that was unexpected to Lava Tube factory, that they came out a kind of slightly purply red. Perhaps the newest ones are brite red red. Let us know when you get it! ;)
 

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now there saying there going to charge ME MORE $$?!!!!!!!!!??????????????

wth i ordered in FEB.!!!!!!!!!!

and now your thinking of charging me more money for something ive ALREADY PAID for and have been waiting 2 months for...

K, wait a sec... did you get an email from apollo saying they were going to charge you more on your credit card? I dont think they can legally do that. If you're just going off what's posted on their site, don't get too worried about it till you hear something from apollo directly. I ordered my stainless kit on March 10th... at that point they didnt have any 'higher charge' except for a $5 upcharge which I paid when I checked out. Of course, they also didn't have anything listed about a backorder at that time. Some people have received subsequent emails from apollo since then, saying the backorder is in effect...some haven't. I haven't. So not sure if that means they didn't inform us, or perhaps they only received a few on March 10th. We just don't know. Anyway, I wouln't freak out about anything that Apollo hasn't told you directly. And if they have sent you something saying they're gonna charge you more, please show us text of email. Trust me, they can't do that.

Might be legal for them to say that the cost of the units has gone up, so you have your choice of a refund or a larger charge, but that I'd have to check on.

Either way, we'd love to know. ;) And hang in there... I know this is all incredibly frustrating.
 

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Umm...what? We're talking about lavatube mods here right? I don't pretend to know what's going on anymore.
Aaaaaanyway...I just ordered the ss lt last night (I don't mind waiting awhile for that price), only because it's been sitting in my cart for awhile. You can't even get to the listing (for the tube alone, no kit) anymore from the site. I got a receipt, but no mention of back order either (but it is posted with the kits). If they try pulling a fast one on a buncha folks there' going to be a real big uprising I'm a thinkin...
 

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I'm guessing you'll get what you paid for. lol If any shenanigans were afoot, like them sending wrong color, we'd have heard about it. But since they do look so similar, offhand, I'd say that anyone who ordered steel and noticed any kind of bubbling or chipping (ie indications that it's plated, not solid steel) would be entitled to a replacement with steel or an auto refund, regardless of time table, because they didn't get what they paid more for. ;) My guess is they'll be careful to keep them separated, and I have a feeling they probably can tell the difference, just cause they're so familiar with them. I'd think weight alone would be a good indicator.

I'd be AMAZED if it turned out they had actually asked anyone for more money after the order was placed. Now that doesn't mean they didn't send people who ordered an email saying 'price went up with manufacturer, we can't meet your order for that price, you have choice between extra fee OR a full refund'. But that's different than just saying we're charging you more, deal with it.That's just incredibly bad form, and quite possibly illegal if due to anything but a misprint on their site. My thinking is that they posted something that prices were going up, and people who'd already ordered thought they'd somehow be retroactively charged. BTW, i went into my conversation with apollo guy today a little steamed. I hadn't been notified that my unit wouldn't ship for a month when I ordered (they changed the site later), and I never got an email after the fact. Plus I check my spam. When I asked the guy, he put me on hold a moment, checked my order and had in his notes that they sent me an email same day I ordered informing me of the backorder. That's certainly possible... i'm not insane about checking. But all things considered I got the feeling they were a pretty professional outfit, so that retroactive charge thing doesn't quite ring true...probably a misunderstanding. Stranger things have happened, though. ;)
 

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I'm guessing you'll get what you paid for. lol If any shenanigans were afoot, like them sending wrong color, we'd have heard about it. But since they do look so similar, offhand, I'd say that anyone who ordered steel and noticed any kind of bubbling or chipping (ie indications that it's plated, not solid steel) would be entitled to a replacement with steel or an auto refund, regardless of time table, because they didn't get what they paid more for. ;) My guess is they'll be careful to keep them separated, and I have a feeling they probably can tell the difference, just cause they're so familiar with them. I'd think weight alone would be a good indicator.

The stainless steel model looks entirely different than the 'standard' model. There won't be any question which one you got (or get). :)

Edit: that site goes up and down, so the links might not load.
 
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The stainless steel model looks entirely different than the 'standard' model. There won't be any question which one you got (or get). :)

Edit: that site goes up and down, so the links might not load.

Yup, He was worried about getting copper with chrome plating instead of steel. We've been told they're near identical, visually, but one is plated and one isn't. I'd guess the stainless would be less glossy, but we're hearing they look almost the same.. ;) So now there's 3 silver options... the standard lightish silver powdercoat (standard) and the copper w/chrome plating (chrome) and the solid fabricated stainless steel (guessing ya'll can figure out what that one is called). At the time the thread got rolling, they didn't have chrome on the site yet. Sorry to confuse!

And just to confuse things further, I just begged em for a copper finish, since they're already making the chrome body out of copper. Crossing fingers!
 

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Thank you! Who needs chrome when solid stainless is an option? Copper is the thing. Next time you're chatting to Apollo for any reason, back me up on that, wouldja? lol Maybe we'll get lucky. PLUS>>. copper would actually be cheaper for them to make since they won't have do do the dipping or electroplating or whatever else they're doing for the chrome. Way less time intensive, too. I'm guessing making some sort of copper alloy (just to add a bit to the strength) would be just as cheap if not cheaper than the slightly soft all copper itself, since most alloy materials are cheaper, I believe. I'm not 100% sure about that, but have done a few things in the past that lead me to that line of thinking.
 

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Thank you! Who needs chrome when solid stainless is an option? Copper is the thing. Next time you're chatting to Apollo for any reason, back me up on that, wouldja? lol Maybe we'll get lucky. PLUS>>. copper would actually be cheaper for them to make since they won't have do do the dipping or electroplating or whatever else they're doing for the chrome. Way less time intensive, too. I'm guessing making some sort of copper alloy (just to add a bit to the strength) would be just as cheap if not cheaper than the slightly soft all copper itself, since most alloy materials are cheaper, I believe. I'm not 100% sure about that, but have done a few things in the past that lead me to that line of thinking.

Yeah for sure, I'll probably end up asking them some more questions tomorrow afternoon, i'll throw one about copper at them.
 

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I have been thinking of trying some type of vv device. SOOOOOO I ordered a Apollo Vtube kit in ss. Yeah I know I won't get it till after 3-31 but the prices have gone up since I first started looking so I just pulled the trigger today hoping for the best. I will be learning as I go with this thing so I have plenty of time to learn all I can before it gets here.
Yep I have doubts whether this was a good decision. What do all Ya'll think. I have a lot of trouble finding the threads I need to look at but I guess as time goes by I will figure out where to look.

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Gimpy, I'm sort of a tried and true noob helper. lol I've got two people i'm helping find their feet right now, so anything you need, feel free to track me down and ask, ok? You can pm me. I'm stuck home with my health so I'm around quite a bit, and my pms come to my email. You really can't go wrong with Lava Tube as first VV.. its a super intuitive simple pv. My first suggestion, which I think will make you feel muuuuuch better about your decision (and it was a great decision. I've tried a ton of machines and I just bought a stainless LT, myself) is to watch the PBusardo lava tube video. I'm not sure if you're a brand new vaper, or just new to vv. If you're a brand new vaper, he'll be talking about different cartos and ohms, so you might get confused when he starts with the charts. lol Don't worry about it. If you're an experienced vaper, and know what kind of cartos you like, that vid and those charts will tell you exactly how high in voltage the LT will let you go on your kind of hardware. Plus, your Stainless is a newer version, and will be even nicer than the one he's talking about. Anyway, here's link, and again, feel free to ask whatever you need. And if you're very new, lemme know, cause I wrote an intro 'guide to vaping' that might help you... lots of cool links, great vendors.. basically the culmination of my first year of vaping, and lots of step by step guidelines on how to fill/care for different cartos and links to vids showing you how. Anyway, I can shoot you a copy if you're very new and think it would help. I've been doing it close to 3yrs, btw.

http://www.tasteyourjuice.com/topsecret/wordpress/?p=639
 
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Gimpy, I'm sort of a tried and true noob helper. lol I've got two people i'm helping find their feet right now, so anything you need, feel free to track me down and ask, ok? You can pm me. I'm stuck home with my health so I'm around quite a bit, and my pms come to my email. You really can't go wrong with Lava Tube as first VV.. its a super intuitive simple pv. My first suggestion, which I think will make you feel muuuuuch better about your decision (and it was a great decision. I've tried a ton of machines and I just bought a stainless LT, myself) is to watch the PBusardo lava tube video. I'm not sure if you're a brand new vaper, or just new to vv. If you're a brand new vaper, he'll be talking about different cartos and ohms, so you might get confused when he starts with the charts. lol Don't worry about it. If you're an experienced vaper, and know what kind of cartos you like, that vid and those charts will tell you exactly how high in voltage the LT will let you go on your kind of hardware. Plus, your Stainless is a newer version, and will be even nicer than the one he's talking about. Anyway, here's link, and again, feel free to ask whatever you need. And if you're very new, lemme know, cause I wrote an intro 'guide to vaping' that might help you... lots of cool links, great vendors.. basically the culmination of my first year of vaping, and lots of step by step guidelines on how to fill/care for different cartos and links to vids showing you how. Anyway, I can shoot you a copy if you're very new and think it would help. I've been doing it close to 3yrs, btw.

Taste Your Juice | VZ VV Tube Mod (AKA Lavatube) Full vs. Mini – Vaping Zone

Thank You orachel

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No, you're not a sucker! lol It does look truly gorgeous! And you do know there's pretty copper under there, so you could always get it buffed off, then clearcoated or something for some added strength if you want a change. ;) I'm sure it'll be a super pretty mod.

I'm second guessing mine, as well, since I'd much rather have the all copper (if they end up offering that...crossing fingers!) and I'm not likely to be able to keep both for price reasons. I guess I could always give someone a deal on the stainless if the copper shows ends up being an option. ;)
 
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