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Need help from former MFS (MyFreedomSmokes) customers
Has any found a supplier or company that has tobacco e-juice like or very similar to MFS Turbosmog, Tall Paul, or Red Luck?
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Then I would have accused him of being a double fister and run a CAGE screening on him 
Enough, you win.
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If anyone knows a chemist or metallurgical specialist please ask them for help on this topic. My sample size is too small to be definitive. It might be ok to heat the wicks to 1000degF and then do a acid bath. I don't know yet.
The more minds chewing on this the better. And no Zombie jokes.
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If anyone knows a chemist or metallurgical specialist please ask them for help on this topic. My sample size is too small to be definitive. It might be ok to heat the wicks to 1000degF and then do a acid bath. I don't know yet.
The more minds chewing on this the better. And no Zombie jokes.
What do you call a zombie door-to-door salesman?
A dead-ringer
Sorry, I just couldn't resist!
A dead-ringer
Sorry, I just couldn't resist!
Everyone hurry up with your unoxidized set ups so we can compare notes
I will be making a 100% un-oxidized wick after dinner. I will report my initial mystery flavor findings as well as headaches getting it going.
Well...I was gonna make an un-oxidized setup but I took off my cap to tear it down and just could not trear apart this cick/coil at the moment. Its working a little too good. Sold all my other gennies waiting to get more in and don't have another to toy with. Sounds interesting, but I don't torch the crap outa my wicks to begin with so I think its okay. Hope so anyway.
I'm sure there are a few on YouTube but I couldn't give you a link. Sorry.
Wrap a coil on a drill bit. Insert/screw the ceramic wick into the coil. The install the wick/coil onto the atty, carefully. Don't insert the wick and try to wrap a coil around it. It's too fragile and you'll likely break it. Or sometimes I pre-do the coil and install just the neg lead to the atty. Then with the pos lead loose so there's a little give, I screw the wick in the attached the pos lead. Brace the top of the wick with a finger when tightening the pos screw - there's no give - you can't be pulling the wick to the post when tightening the screw, it will snap, it doesn't bend.
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Sure glad I'm getting experience this past month w/ ceramic - this thread is an eye-opener.
Isn't what's on the wick or ending up in our juice kind of a mute point? I mean I do get why it's concerning, but the real question is what's being transferred to our lungs. I think a more accurate test would be to place a piece of cotton over your mouth piece and draw through it, then test what if any residue was left on the cotton. I mean all the meat we eat is potentially highly toxic due to bacteria and parasites. If we tested the raw meat and not the food we actually ingest we wouldn't ever touch any of it. Just some food for thought. (very bad pun intended)
Just don't want people running around yelling "FIRE" just because they see smoke. Ya never know, it may just be vapor!
Just don't want people running around yelling "FIRE" just because they see smoke. Ya never know, it may just be vapor!
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So how about a co-op to pay for the lab tests to get some real answers. $200 a pop. How many tests are required?
I would be down if it were testing what's in the actual vapor. Testing what's on the wick isn't going to prove anything. What's on the wick may lead to some hypothesis to what we may or may not be inhaling but that is the best case scenario. All it will do is potentially scare people and circulate possible misinformation. I just think we're looking at the wrong end of the horse here.
I'm honestly amazed you even managed to get a wick that gunked and crusty, I just torch mine, roll it, torch it again, then wrap a coil and go.
I've never seen anything being backwashed into my juice, and I've never seen my juice change colour.
I've never seen anything being backwashed into my juice, and I've never seen my juice change colour.
Yes it may. So if that's enough for you that's great.
On a side note: Have you tried those new depleted uranium wicks? Man, they taste amazing and you never get dry hits. Furthermore, you get that extra nice glow-in-the-dark effect on the vapor! And I'm sure they're completely harmeless. That 'smooth' leftover radiation even helps kill germs and enhances all the flavors, and I'm sure it will only end up in the juice.
This is actually really troubling me. An exposure limit of 0.02 parts per billion for something ingested is an unbelievably small amount, and if most of our wicks are covered in this stuff, I can't see how it's possible that we are somehow *not* inhaling some amount of it that's greater than .02 ppb.
I'm really rethinking my entire time spent as a vaper up to this point...and doing some soul-searching so far as to decide if it's finally time enough to let go of inhaling anything. I certainly don't want to continue inhaling carcinogens!
For these final 6 months of my vaping career, I've been blogging and researching genesis RBA's and SS mesh exclusively.
After all of the research into building coils, and the dedication to finding awesome builds and literally spending most of my free time experimenting with SS builds, it really sucks to have to hear all of this! But, it is what it is, and I can't see myself taking more risks in the future of what might be a post-SS vape world.
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Now that I've thought about it for awhile, I will probably go back to using non-SS wick RBA's and traditional cartos for now. Eventually, though, I think I'll give it up for good. I'll keep the blog alive until I'm through, of course.
I'm really rethinking my entire time spent as a vaper up to this point...and doing some soul-searching so far as to decide if it's finally time enough to let go of inhaling anything. I certainly don't want to continue inhaling carcinogens!
For these final 6 months of my vaping career, I've been blogging and researching genesis RBA's and SS mesh exclusively.
After all of the research into building coils, and the dedication to finding awesome builds and literally spending most of my free time experimenting with SS builds, it really sucks to have to hear all of this! But, it is what it is, and I can't see myself taking more risks in the future of what might be a post-SS vape world.
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Now that I've thought about it for awhile, I will probably go back to using non-SS wick RBA's and traditional cartos for now. Eventually, though, I think I'll give it up for good. I'll keep the blog alive until I'm through, of course.
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I'm sure that all methods of vaping is going to have risks. The coil is metal, and it gunks up in time. The only clean method I've seen is dropping juice on a hot skillet. I do feel better today from vaping vs. smoking cigs. I'm going to continue with SS mesh and silica. That's just me.
I guess a big part of this whole situation, for me, is that I've been plugging the SS-wick Genesis vape on my blog and the forums for months, and certainly exposing many people to what might very well end up being a much more dangerous method of vaping.
So for me, it's not just myself I'm worried about, I have to think of the other people connected to me.
That really sits heavy on me- even a smaller blog like mine gets many thousands of visitors per week, and over months, that's a lot of people being exposed to this stuff. I didn't sleep a wink last night, tbqh.
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I wouldn't hold it against you that much.
You didn't know the potential risks (which might not exist in the end), and you didn't do it intentionally.
Furthermore, you were troubled by the mere possibility of unintentionally and eventually might have caused harm.
That's a very different attitude from a few 'leading' members of the community whom I've seen having very irresponsible responses to this. Very troubling but also very enlightening.
You can also take this opportunity, learn from it, and be more careful in the future. That will certainly translate to you having more value to the community than before.
This is all irrespective of the existence of a real danger to this or not, of course.
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