Started vaping today, and I have a problem

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still gonna say either the juice wasn't all the way to the atty, so what you were vaping was more burning mesh than ejuice ;)

I don't have enough experience to say. That's why I mentioned the juice smelled the same (like a fog machine)

is the juice watery or thick?

Watery, with light brown color. Very greasy to the touch.
 

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watery would lend me to think it is more pg based than vg based

chalking this up to bad juice....sounds like the vendor really just didn't add enough flavor to the mix...steeping might help but I doubt it...don't through it away, place it in a safe place and try it again after a week...

but it could just be that you don't like carts ;) some people don't...I didn't...juice does taste different in different devices...you mentioned a vape shop near by, def stop by there and grab you a small glass or metal tank, one top coil (warmer vape) and one bottom coil (cooler vape) to find out which you like better and a thing of 50/50 pg/vg juice

but if you can wait about a month and don't mind buying from china, fasttech.com the walmart of vaping and accepts paypal....they sell some authentics but mostly knock-offs at dirt cheap prices and they sell everything...cig-a-likes, ego styles, mech mods, regulated mods, tanks, juice, drip tips, ect.....but it takes a good month for shipping.
 

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Best solution is to throw your :censored: in the wastebin. Go buy a good mechanical mod. I recommend HCigar Nemesis Clone at 101 vape. They have for 31 dollars. Then buy a Kayfun Lite plus clone. Build a 2 ohm build and vape away.

I'm a pack a day smoker, who is trying to switch to vaping. Lot's of smokers are doing it at work, and think highly of it.

I bought a cartomizer online that looks like a cigarette (white with yellow tip, auto battery), and the device seems to be fine. Everything looks and works as expected.

Here is the problem.

I bought 3 e-liquids all with 16/mg nicotine, that are different tobacco flavors. All 3 are famous Canadian brands. The problem is.... they ALL taste like a FOG MACHINE !

To be clear, I hate the smell of fog machines. Always have. It's not just the vapor either, The smell of the fluid is pretty much fog machine with slight hint of it's intended aroma/flavor.

Is there a solution to this ? My initial goal was to get something that tasted like tobacco, now my goal seems to be something that doesn't taste like a fog machine.

Thanks for Reading :)
 
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Best solution is to throw your :censored: in the wastebin. Go buy a good mechanical mod. I recommend HCigar Nemesis Clone at 101 vape. They have for 31 dollars. Then buy a Kayfun Lite plus clone. Build a 2 ohm build and vape away.
:facepalm: that may have been fine for you...doesn't mean it's fine for everyone
some people prefer the cig-a-likes
but def wouldn't recommend an unprotected mech mod as someone's very first intro into vaping
please keep in mind that everyone's vape taste is different and their willingness to dive right into diy
i've been at this over a year and still don't do rba or rda's....vaping is all about one's personal preferences....please try to keep that in mind when advising people
 
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My progression has been similar to a lot of those here on ECF. My first purchase was the Blu kit, which I still use on occasion and often leave it in the car in case I leave the house without anything else. My next purchase was the CE4 kit from a local B&M -- two clone ego-t, two throwaway tanks, usb cable and charger. Both serve their purpose and I still find a reason to use them. I then purchased the Provari and an Aspire Nautilus tank. Wow! What a difference. The juices taste better, last longer, and provide a more pleasant vape. The Blu taste is not nearly as good, but it works in a pinch of giving me that nicotine hit without resorting to an analog.

Keep trying. It can be frustrating, but when you get something that works well, you'll understand what all the fuss is about. :2c:
 

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:censored: Just a recommendation ......... 2 ohms is perfectly safe

:facepalm: that may have been fine for you...doesn't mean it's fine for everyone
some people prefer the cig-a-likes
but def wouldn't recommend an unprotected mech mod as someone's very first intro into vaping
please keep in mind that everyone's vape taste is different and their willingness to dive right into diy
i've been at this over a year and still don't do rba or rda's....vaping is all about one's personal preferences....please try to keep that in mind when advising people
 
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The first e-cig I tried was a "cigalike" and that was about 5 or so years ago. To be honest, it tasted like ..... To be more specific, it tasted like I was smoking .......now as a recovering .... addict, this was not a good thing (don't worry, almost 9 years clean now). I never touched it after, luckily it was a co-workers so I didn't spend any money on it. I think at the time they were something like $80USD. When I started seeing the eGo's my curiosity piqued again, I tried one (again a friends) and was blown away. From then on I did a lot of research on what I'd like. I thought I wanted a tobacco flavor, but I don't think I'll ever try one. My first flavor was Peach...yeah, you read that right. But you know what, I found that I really like the fruity flavors. The hardest part of vaping is finding that "all day vape", I think I found one in a Red-Bull flavor from my local B&M. There is a lot of trial and error at first, but when you find what you like you're set. Try some vapes that friends/co-workers use (if they don't mind), especially the different flavors and ask them what they like and why...maybe they could help point you in the right direction with some of their first hand experience.
 

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:censored: Just a recommendation ......... 2 ohms is perfectly safe
excuse me, not trying to argue....my point isn't so much safety, yes 2ohm is safe...my point is in diy...some people aren't comfortable rebuilding and for someone just starting out in vaping ie the title (started vaping today)

my point is that please keep in mind that vaping is all about personal preference

while that might have been fine for you starting out, doesn't mean it is for everyone....and trying to find out where one's comfort zone is first before throwing other things at them ;) vaping for some is overwhelming while others pick up on it quickly....
some people it takes a long time to get away from the mind set of it must look like a cigarette while others jump right in....

that is/was my point...try to find out where people comfort zone is first and help point them into the right direction for them to start vaping and then progress from there....

anyways to each their own, as stated vaping is all personal preference..there is not right from wrong as long as it works for you...but trying to throw a mech mod and rba's and rda's at someone that doesn't fully understand what a 510 ecig is obviously wouldn't be a starting point.....

anyways good night to all
 
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Well, after leaving it for half a day, and the fact that the "fog machine" taste is now in every cig I try to smoke... I went back to the original cartomizer I had loaded.

Isn't as strong as before, so i guess it's an improvement.

As for the DIY chatter, that's not what I am going to get into right now. I would have to find a method/solution I like first before I'd throw more money at it.
 

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Welcome to the Forum! It really does get better. Just keep at it. The people here are very welcoming, and there is a wealth of information at your disposal, and plenty of people who can help you make informed decisions in your vaping journey.

As someone who just - a little over two weeks ago - switched from cigalikes with refillable cartomizers to Kanger Evods, I would suggest definitely letting your juice steep. If there is a B&M in your area, possibly ask them if they have anything pre-steeped that you can try. Also see if you can find out the PG/VG ratio of the juices you now have. If you can taste test while in the shop, and find a flavor you think you would like, ask them how long it was steeped. Some juices are good right off the bat, others need some time for the flavors to meld. I know from personal experience that the first few times filling a new carto, it would look full - not dripping, but you could tell that there was juice in it - but after a few pulls I was getting the taste of the polyfil instead of my juice. I had to top off the carto a few times before I started getting consistent hits of juice instead of juice mixed with polyfil. Daughter and I never tried the condom method - we dripped juice from the bottle down the sides of the carto, avoiding the center post. After every 10 or so drops, we took the carto by the mouth end, shook it like shaking down a thermometer, and continued filling, shaking a last time before putting the mouthpiece back on. We used cigalikes for almost 2 years before we got the Evod kits, and were very happy with the setup. The main reason we changed was that we got tired of not being able to vape certain juices that we liked because they clogged the cartos something fierce. We were using an 808 threaded system, and blank cartos were $1 to $2 each, and we really hated throwing that money away. With the Kanger Evods, at least we can clean the heads and coils, while still enjoying our juices.

Keep at it. It is well worth all the trial and error in the long run. Good luck.
 

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Well, after leaving it for half a day, and the fact that the "fog machine" taste is now in every cig I try to smoke... I went back to the original cartomizer I had loaded.

Isn't as strong as before, so i guess it's an improvement.

As for the DIY chatter, that's not what I am going to get into right now. I would have to find a method/solution I like first before I'd throw more money at it.

Just keep at it. Sooo many of us had to go through the frustrations and riggamaroll and I for one spent a .... ton of money tryng to figure out what the good stuff was. Finally did and it's all been smooth sailing since then.(well, for the most part. Maybe a few ooopsies along the way) It will get better and you will look back at your beginning trials and errors and be so glad you stuck with it. Most folks here, like pert near all of them, will give you solid advice for a beginner. You have a community of supporters here encouraging you all the way. Take advantage of the great things this forum has to offer and soon you will be well an you way to vaping Nirvana.
 
Sounds like I will probably be switching hardware soon then, if it really is that big of a deal.

My choices so far come from the following:

1. I am switching now, because my mother-in-law is visiting for 2 weeks next week, and am trying to show her some respect on the smell/pollution front.

2. The tank devices look closer to pot-smoking devices then cigarette cessation ones, this is a problem as I live very close to the school my children attend, and rumors move quickly. It's an upper class neighborhood, and if 1 mom got the wrong idea I would have a social worker at my door fairly quickly. This is why I went with cig-a-like as a start.
 

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First and foremost it should be about what you are comfortable with and that you are happy. But if (and I think you will) you stick with vaping you will eventually have an occasion where you will be having to explain what it is you have and what you using it for. Lots of folks are ignorant to e-cigs but a simple explanation works well almost everytime. For the most part people know that there is such a thing as an e-cig so simply telling them that that is what you have will be enough to suffice.
I vape for me and me alone so I have the luxury of not giving a flip what others think. But I wouldn't be at all surprised if there are parents of that school that are vapers too.
Going to you local vape shop is a good idea so I encourage you to do that and see if they can help you out in any way.
 

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Frankly, I never did think it was that big of a deal. If you like the feel and look of the cigalike, stay with it. The most important thing right now is to find the right nicotine level, PG/VG ratio, and flavors that will help you to quit, or at least cut down on, your analogs. This is the real trial and error part. There are plenty of good online vendors who make quality juice for reasonable prices. Some of them offer sample packs. Once you find the right nicotine level, PG/VG ratio for you, and a few flavors that you like, it will get easier. My daughter and I were very happy with the cigalikes that we used. With a couple of extra batteries and a couple of chargers, we did quite well, happily vaping away for a long time before we decided to switch to slightly larger setups with longer battery life and parts that could be cleaned rather than thrown away. That was our choice, and we are now on a learning curve with the new equipment, trying different nicotine levels and PG/VG ratios to find what works for us with the new equipment. We already have the flavors and vendors down. The point is, there is no right way or wrong way to cut down or quit analogs. Whatever works to help you is the only thing that counts. If you are concerned about the looks of the tank setups, stick with the cigalikes and play around with the nicotine levels, PG/VG ratios and flavors until you find YOUR sweet spot.
 

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:) my mother-in-law has the same view point....she won't use anything other than the blu I bought her because to her anything else just looks too much like she's doing something illegal ;)

but you could buy a small tank to use with the cig-a-like and have all the joy of vaping juices with the convenience of the cig-a-like battery and still a somewhat small profile...example from fasttech
Mini Glass Protank 2
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the only downside is that it's for an ego connection and not a 510. However you can buy an adapter ;)
510 to ego adapter
this will add some length to your cig-a-like though however you will get a lot more use out of this and find it a lot easier to fill than the cartomizers. So for about $14.00 you can now have a fairly decent vape using a cig-a-like battery :) and it's glass so you won't have to worry about tank cracking juices and you can purchase new coils for it for cheap
 

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:) my mother-in-law has the same view point....she won't use anything other than the blu I bought her because to her anything else just looks too much like she's doing something illegal ;)

but you could buy a small tank to use with the cig-a-like and have all the joy of vaping juices with the convenience of the cig-a-like battery and still a somewhat small profile...example from fasttech
Mini Glass Protank 2
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But, it would be so ugly!!!! Why not just use an eSmart clearo? They make them in both 510 and 808 versions. Their diameter is just barely bigger than the cig-alike batteries, not noticeably. Or, just buy eSmart batteries. They're still slim batteries, almost cig-alike.

I've tried a few slim clearos. I haven't particularly liked any of them except for the eSmart. Cig-alikes can be fun!
 
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