Starter Kit! (Knock-Offs,Clones)

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BlueMoods

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Yeah, Got me thinking the sometimes problem supplier i buy DIY nic from (I have not had a problem but, they are definitely not welcome here.) They pull the "made in USA" Trip with china made stuff, the trick, the components are made in China, they assemble or mix here in the USA, so can say their stuff was made here. It's still made in china, just put together here.

I could buy dye from India, Wool yarn from Argentina and, Silk for Japan, then make a blanket of it all and still claim it was made in the USA - well yeah but the pats that determine the safety and quality weren't.
 

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Great starter kit for $44 has all U need...2 1100a ego-C batterys, 2 CE5 rebuildable clearomizers, 2 chargers (USB and wall AC) , 1 carrying case... DV eGo-T Starter Kit - 1100mah

Great eliquid and inexpensive.... Best E Cigarette | Buy Electronic Cigarettes | E Cig Juice - MT Baker Vapor ..give their 555 flavor a try...........Great customer service and fast shipping by both...

I recently just bought and remodeled a new bar, a few months back..a now new sports bar with some food appetizers, wifi and bands on 2 nites, a few bike poker runs, and some 10k road races....and smoking tobacco is not allowed by the state in any bar or restaurant here...so I also been selling ecigs and ecig products out of the bar so patrons don't have to go outside in the heat of summers or in the cold in the winters to fire up their addictions....all the patrons (I have over 200-300 a day) love the simple ego's and CE's,...and they are affordable....for $25 I can hook up a customer with USA made ego's 1100, battery, and CE's and juice... to me thats a real starter kit with all U need, and made in USA , and no wait...later if people decide they like Ecigs they can buy bigger or diff if they want..from me or anyplace else...least I gave em a break and introduction without picking their pockets and selling em stuff they may never use later...

While I fully agree that Mount Baker Vapor is a very good vendor, I find it odd that this individual recommends DV's 1100 mah ego/CE kits (which cost $45), and then states that he sells his customers at his place of business for $25 (I'm guessing a little bit of juice, like 1.5 ml's with a battery/clearo combo.) 15 ml's of the recommended "555" from MBV is about $5 (not including shipping), which would fill 10 CE's for $0.50 per 1.5 ml's....

So, basically, following the math, profit... and people switching to ecigs from analogs, which is great. Which I have nothing against profit and health.

Having said that, claiming that the stuff is all "USA" made... that ruffles my feathers some.
 
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Math is simple...$45 DV kit (2 batteries , 2 CE5's, 2 chargers) divided by 2 = $22.50....MBV juice $5 for 15ML divide by 2 = $2.50 for 7ML....22.50 plus 2.50 = $25 and includes a charger, 1100 battery, a CE5 clearo, and 7ML juice.....MBV juice is made in Washington state and Discount is in Connecticut which last I heard are still both in the USA..
 

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Correct... MBV is in Washington. DV is also located in the USA.

This does not mean that the batteries and clearomizers sold by DV are made in the USA. I doubt that even the "kit" is made in the USA. It is most likely bought by DV as a kit, from China, from a factory that DV has a contract/agreement with, to make/sell stuff specifically to DV's specifications. If I am wrong that the batteries and clearomizers are indeed made in the USA, please post up a link to the manufacturer in the US that produces those items. I will recommend to folks I know to buy USA made ego batteries and clearomizers, as opposed to the Chinese made ones.

Cheaper doesn't always equal better... it's just more cost effective and easier for folks to get into ecigs. I buy cheaper, because that's what I can afford, not because "it's better". If I could afford a $200 ProVari, I might pick one up, or a $200 mech mod. You get what you pay for. It's like buying a Yugo, or a F-150... the Yugo is cheaper... but sure as hell wasn't built Ford tough. Both will get you back and forth, but one will last longer, yadda yadda yadda.
 

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well at least now U understand the simple math and have to agree and not question my math or pricing..and U understand that MBV is a USA made liquid....so I guess U would have to find 1 thing to question ..so 2 of 3 isn't too bad...BTW, I was stationed at Lakenheath and Mildenhall for a few years so I completely understand your ways...
 

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well at least now U understand the simple math and have to agree and not question my math or pricing..and U understand that MBV is a USA made liquid....so I guess U would have to find 1 thing to question ..so 2 of 3 isn't too bad...BTW, I was stationed at Lakenheath and Mildenhall for a few years so I completely understand your ways...

Your math was never the question, nor the argument that cheaper is cheaper. We all know that. You do get what you pay for, and CE# clearos still suck, imho, and you are not an unbiased source, as you are a vendor of these devices. By the way, the gear you recommended is made in China. Nothing wrong with that either. 90% of my gear is made in China too, along with everyone else's here. Best to you.
 

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To billbeckusa and Borescoped. My dad actually just surprised me with an eGo-c "upgrade" with Joyetech usb charger.. 5 clicks on and off. It has the joyetech logo on the battery part of the ecig too..? So kind of what I meant by not wanting knock-offs is how do I know if this is a legit brand and will not blow up in my face.. haha it looks like it has 4 vents around the battery and atomizer area.. I know nothing soooooooo any info is good. If this is an upgradeable piece, what cool upgrades can I add. I really wanted vv/vw led and all that jazz. I do like the Sweet Maryjane flavor though haha, thoughtful dads.
 

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Your math was never the question, nor the argument that cheaper is cheaper. We all know that. You do get what you pay for, and CE# clearos still suck, imho, and you are not an unbiased source, as you are a vendor of these devices. By the way, the gear you recommended is made in China. Nothing wrong with that either. 90% of my gear is made in China too, along with everyone else's here. Best to you.

also how do i know when this thing is fully recharged or getting close to dead, im about to go to a party and I dont want it to die while im there, I guess I could bring my usb charger and would it be bad to use that in my truck?
Dont know how to make sure someone sees my reply haha @billbeckusa #imanewb
 

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Those two probably went to bed. Im going to give you my two cents if you dont mind.

Thats good stuff. Real good stuff. Two of those batteries would be optimum. Always have a fresh one on hand when the other one needs charging. I have all kinds of mods and mechs, but what you have is really all you need imho.

There are so many choices for your juice delivery device and you will slowley but surely try them all when its said and done.

I would personally buy an real Kanger evod, or a Kangor pro tank mini. I prefer the later myself. They will both fit well, look good and perform well. Learn how to properly clean the heads and keep them in a rotation for longer life.

I would buy these tanks with replacement coils/heads with 1.5 or 1.8 ohm coils just because at low voltage like your battery wil be giving out, they will give you the bigest and best vapor hit/experience.

You might enjoy a atomizer or "drip tip". The right one matched to your battery output will give you a most enjoyable vape experience. I myself like an "LR 306". You can find them at myvaporstore. They are about 5.50. They are a real treat. That particular one is in 1.5 ohm.

This would be my opinion of what will go best with what you have. My two cents.
 

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also how do i know when this thing is fully recharged or getting close to dead, im about to go to a party and I dont want it to die while im there, I guess I could bring my usb charger and would it be bad to use that in my truck?
Dont know how to make sure someone sees my reply haha @billbeckusa #imanewb

When it turns green, it will be fully charged. I use to charge mine in my truck all of the time.
 

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Those two probably went to bed. Im going to give you my two cents if you dont mind.

Thats good stuff. Real good stuff. Two of those batteries would be optimum. Always have a fresh one on hand when the other one needs charging. I have all kinds of mods and mechs, but what you have is really all you need imho.

There are so many choices for your juice delivery device and you will slowley but surely try them all when its said and done.

I would personally buy an real Kanger evod, or a Kangor pro tank mini. I prefer the later myself. They will both fit well, look good and perform well. Learn how to properly clean the heads and keep them in a rotation for longer life.

I would buy these tanks with replacement coils/heads with 1.5 or 1.8 ohm coils just because at low voltage like your battery wil be giving out, they will give you the bigest and best vapor hit/experience.

You might enjoy a atomizer or "drip tip". The right one matched to your battery output will give you a most enjoyable vape experience. I myself like an "LR 306". You can find them at myvaporstore. They are about 5.50. They are a real treat. That particular one is in 1.5 ohm.

This would be my opinion of what will go best with what you have. My two cents.

Thank you! Awesome info I can come back to when i have more money haha.. also I filled it up the the 1.6ml line and it dropped way down to the .8ml so i put a couple more drops in.. is that bad? Im guessing the lantern absorb thingies soaked most of it up..? Im so new.... But am a heavy smoker and used to enjoy all types of smoke ha so the bigger vape hits the better, i can already RIP this one.

and im worried if they are cheap, i dont want them to blow up.. because of course everyone has heard of those couple incidents.. im sure they were doing something wrong but idk
 
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