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Roxstar

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I'm trying to get an older lady I know to switch to vaping, she's in her 60s... I sent her to the website I use for hardware and to this forum, and as I expected, she came back to me and said it's all so overwhelming and confusing. She's a different kinda smoker, lol. She said some times she'll go 2 days without an analog and other days, she'll smoke a pack. I suggested a cig-a-like for her... I started with the RN4081 and thought that would be a good, simple fit for her... Would she be better off with the 510? The DSE901? She wants minimal fuss, and nothing big and gaudy, I think even the eGo is a little bigger than what she'd prefer. What would you guys suggest?

Edit: And if anyone knows of a "beginners" blog to sort out all of the terminology and stuff, that would be a great link to send her.
 
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I switched over a year ago using Vapor4Life Vapor Titans (short, manual, diamond series.) They work well and I had no problem switching and they're super easy. About the same size as a cig, just a little heavier, but that's really not hard to get used to. She can buy prefilled cartos if she doesn't want to mess with filling her own (at first. ;) ) They're priced at like $24.00, but V4L constantly has sales of around 35% off, and often 45% so you never need to pay that ridiculous price. (They post all their coupon codes on FB or she can sign up for their newsletter.)

But, if she can get past the size, eGo's last a lot longer and give so many more choices!

Edited to add that I still have and use the v4l batteries fairly often (they're a nice size for when I'm out and about.) Several are over a year old and still kickin'. If you look into these, just keep in mind that they do have to be charged often... just like any small battery.
 
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If money isn't an object, I would recommend the NJOY King. Since they are disposable, there is no filling or charging. And IMO they offer the most realistic alternative to a cigarette. But at regular retail they are expensive. From what I understand, you can send them 8 spent Kings and they'll send you a free one. The "gold" version would probably be the best if she isn't a heavy-duty smoker.

You can get a "free" one here for $2.99 shipping:

FREE Sample - NJOY King Electronic Cigarette

A while after I got my sample, they sent me a link to take a short survey, which in turn gave me a coupon for 25% off. I ordered a 10-pack from their site. Still expensive, but 25% less so. They were great for vacation, not having to fuss with chargers, etc.
 

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I was thinking about getting my older sister some of those 808's and prefilled cartos over at Smokeless image. I think the 808's might be a better product overall.

I agree with this. 808's seem to be the preferred kits among the new vapers I've converted.

Maybe eRoll?I don't own one so i don't know much about it but there are some good reviews...

Good luck to you and your search. :)

I have, and use, the eRoll. I love it, but it is a 4 piece kit that would, more than likely, put off a brand new vaper. The tank requires a needle tipped bottle to fill or nimble fingers to get the small snap-on cap off/on the tank, and requires frequent filling.
 

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I started out with V4L (Vapor4Life). The forum there is a kind of self-enclosed world, extremely supportive, enthusiastic and friendly, and their systems (and website) are very very easy to use and kinda more fun than other cigalikes because they do a lot of pretty glitz. I always had great customer service. Lots of flavors and all, fun to order.
It's been a long time but I still have a warm and grateful heart for the folks there. Honestly, tho it's heresy, the easiest way to start is with prefilled cartos - she can evolve later, or not. I remember being so pleased that I was able to just screw two pieces together and get started right away - wasn't remotely interested in a learning curve at that point.
They've got ego-type batteries and other stuff now, too, and if she doesn't want to research she can still do well there.
This forum is now so huge and varied and has so many oldies discussing stuff on various levels, no wonder she feels confused. So glad you're there to help!
 

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I'm trying to get an older lady I know to switch to vaping, she's in her 60s... I sent her to the website I use for hardware and to this forum, and as I expected, she came back to me and said it's all so overwhelming and confusing. She's a different kinda smoker, lol. She said some times she'll go 2 days without an analog and other days, she'll smoke a pack. I suggested a cig-a-like for her... I started with the RN4081 and thought that would be a good, simple fit for her... Would she be better off with the 510? The DSE901? She wants minimal fuss, and nothing big and gaudy, I think even the eGo is a little bigger than what she'd prefer. What would you guys suggest?

Edit: And if anyone knows of a "beginners" blog to sort out all of the terminology and stuff, that would be a great link to send her.

It sounds to me like she is a light smoker, so unless she takes to vaping a lot, a cig-a-like might work well for her. However, the only cig-a-like I've ever used is the Njoy King (which is a disposable--and it is a great disposable but disposables have their various draw backs). That said I would suggest a ego style battery perhaps a 1100 mAh, or maybe even a 650 mAh.

They aren't exactly the same size an analog (I find most egos to be comparable to a middle sized cigar in diameter as opposed to a cigarette so that might scare away a few ladies [though I've noticed that guys will take to them readily--but we typically have larger hands anyway) so if she is one of those people who insist on being able to "scissor" it just like an analog...well it may not be a good match. I've also seen a couple of various ego style batts in my local B&M in purple, and pink and other colors which a older lady may find more suitable than a middle aged man (like myself) would.
 

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I'm trying to get an older lady I know to switch to vaping, she's in her 60s... I sent her to the website I use for hardware and to this forum, and as I expected, she came back to me and said it's all so overwhelming and confusing....She wants minimal fuss, and nothing big and gaudy, I think even the eGo is a little bigger than what she'd prefer. What would you guys suggest?

I only scanned the thread so hopefully I won't be simply repeating what someone has already said.

My wife and I are in our 60s and quit smoking just 3 weeks ago with the helps of e-cigs - in that time we've turned several of our friends onto e-cigs. Several have been - actually most of them have been liddle ole ladies who can't figure out the remotes on their TVs or how to surf the web, so it has to be simple. Here are my thoughts and I hope they're helpful:

If she's trying to quit smoking, I can't see replacing the habit with something that looks just like a cigarette. For me at least, that doesn't compute. I'd suggest one of the nice little Joyetech 510s with a refillable cart. You might start her out on the prefills, but being able to control the nic dose plus the flavor is a great plus in my book so steer her toward refillables.

We just bought a birthday present for a friend who has tried everything to quit. We bought her a Joye eGo passthrough with a Vivo tank. It took her a day or two to get the hang of it and I'm still helping her out a little. But she loves it and has already bought two more for friends! You need to explain that this is not a smoking device but an electronic instrument. Just like a smart phone or a TV remote, it requires a bit of practice. Encourage her to practice and get used to it. Be there for her, the first few days.

I made an instruction sheet that seems to be helpful...first I photographed the eGo in its assembled state, then I photographed it disassembled with the parts laid out side by side. Using a graphics editing program (Corel), I labeled the parts A, B, C, D, etc. This made it easy for her to refer back to the photo to identify the parts when reading the instruction sheet which I wrote. I wrote it as if I was writing for a first-grader - not because she's dumb but because she's a newby.

This seems to have worked out well, as she has only called me one time with a question about how to hook up the charger.

It's a shame that the eGo's and other devices don't come with detailed instructions. Many of the folks who really need to quit smoking are oldsters like me, and if the thing is confusing, they just throw it away or stick it in a drawer. I think one of the biggest markets could be older folks who are desperately trying to save money. Many of us have smoked for 50 or 60 years, and for many of us this could be a godsend!

I'm going to be working on my little pamphlet and offering it to my local vaporista, maybe in trade for a spare battery or two.
 
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There's nothing wrong with starting with the cig-a-likes. Hell, I used 2 brands of them before I've now moved up to eGos..and later I'll move into the APV's.

I started with the Blu near the time they had only been around a few months. Was new tech and the batteries were horribly short, some carts didn't work etc etc. Blu is still problematic. That being said though, I did find that I had dropped off analogs completely for a period of about a month or so (pack + a day smoker here) and was fully onto the Blu, till it crapped out on me and I went back to analogs.

Then I was seeing the cost of cigs going up (again) and thinking about my money and health along with other changes in my life, and remembered that I did stop smoking entirely for a short bit there with the Blu. So I started looking around. Checked out companies like White Cloud, Halo, Revolver, etc. I decided the Halo G6 looked pretty good and decided to give it a whirl. Starter kit was $55 and came with 2 (200 mAh or 280mAh) batteries, case, 5 pack of cartos etc etc. It's an 808 threaded cig-a-like offered in a variety of colors and options. So far, for me, it's been performing pretty damn well. The batteries have lasted longer than I was expecting, vapor was very good, and the flavors are all pretty tasty to me. I'm keeping it as a backup, or maybe passing it on to a co-worker to try or use it to start my old man on vaping perhaps.

A lot of folks on here start with the cigalike types, there's nothing wrong with that. For some people, they're the full answer if you're a light smoker or a social smoker...the tech has advanced enough that it can satisfy well enough for light at-home vaping and last long enough for a night out, etc. PCC's make all the difference for that (personal charging cases).

Obviously going to more advanced units will result in increased performance, but not everyone is ready for that right out of the gate, especially older folks I imagine. There are advantages to going to something that doesn't look like a cig for psychological reasons...but some folks may not take to that as readily and there is a learning curve associated. Pretty easy for the most part with some simple research, but it's just enough that it might put off someone from swapping.
 

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As far as reliable cigalikes go here's a few names I'm willing to toss out there.

Apollo certainly has earned their name, and that is a good price on a starter kit linked above with a PCC (that's a big plus).

The Halo G6 (for me) has performed above my expectations, and has been quite satisfying. PCC is not included in the kit, but the system itself has been working very well for me it's just not quite powerful enough for full-time use without cycling through more batteries. halocigs.com. Starter kit was $55 and a sampler pack of flavors was $25.

Smokeless Image products often get pretty good reviews, they are an 808 system as well. There is an option there for the Volt Spinner (basically like an eGo Twist except 808 threaded I think).

White Cloud products are supposed to be good, but look EXTREMELY overpriced to me.

My recommendation since you are able to help your friend out....show her a small eGo. It wouldn't take much to get her used to it, just let her puff and play with it for a while while you do the inital work of filling and maintenance and ease her into it a little bit at a time.
 
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