Stepping into the world of VV

[ch47chief]

Not sure why it took me so long to get here...and I'm hoping I'm not let down! I just put through my order for both the VZ Tube and VZ Pro from vaporzone.com, and I'm already on the edge of my seat waiting!

So I looked around, and from what I can tell, the VZ tube 3.0 is the young june LT (one of the only ones I could find in stock BTW). Thanks pbusardo for the awesome review that made me search so hard for this and wait till I found it...but no thanks for making this mod an overnight sensation and driving it out of stock EVERYWHERE! I hope and pray that this is truly what I think it is because the price ($63 after 10% coupon) for a kit including charger, 2 18350s and VZ tube, is simply out of this world IMO.

Now, onto the VZ Pro. From what I can tell, this is essentially a more cheaply manufactured Provari...that's right I said it and I'm sure I'll get beat up for that but that's why I'm still posting in the noob section! Specs look the same minus some details, and the unit itself is a less fitted and finished Provari frame. If this is for real (I will post results after I receive the unit) I may just die and go to vaping heaven. This kit (1x body, 1x charger, 1x 18650 batt) came in at a whopping...$72 after discount. WHAT!?

Is this a Provari...no...and I'm not expecting that. Is this a sick looking mod that appears (on paper at least) to match up with the Provari...yes! Only time will tell...and if I am let down I will be making some long distance skype calls to the people at vaporzone...but for the price, it was well worth the risk to this guy (thank God for that extra deployment pay...thanks taxpayers!). So I'll be in touch and let y'all in if I have truly found a ridiculous deal. I've attached the link if you guys and gals wanna take a look and let me know what ya think! Now back to my Bloog 808 that I will anxiously vape as I impatiently wait!

VZ PRO Mod/APV 510/eGo (kit) 3 to 6 Volt - E Cig : Joye eGo & eGo-T | Boge Leo | Cartomizers | E-Liquid | Electronic Cigarettes | eGo Tank

 

[kiwivap]

VZPRo looks very nice chief. Appears to be recessed to fit Ego threads. I haven't seen it before so don't know how it performs. If it has up to 5A output like it says then it will be capable of carrying a load. I'd like to hear how you find it after you get it.

Now, onto the VZ Pro. From what I can tell, this is essentially a more cheaply manufactured Provari...that's right I said it and I'm sure I'll get beat up for that but that's why I'm still posting in the noob section!

Well it seems everything gets compared to provari. And we all know everything else isn't provari - so no worries.
The warranty is a bit short - 15 days or pay for up to 90 days. I didn't like that much, to be honest.

 

[jonnyfalmouth]

Hello fello kentuckian im loving the look of the VZ pro ive been looking at these also. I love the PBUSARDO videos i follow him also i bought my young june model also because of him from litecigusa.net the thing is it works great but you may want to watch his very recent video on pulse width modulation. Both units you bought use this and so does the provari except the provari does it alot better. In saying this i can speak from experience that i have noticed that when i vape at say 3.7 volts it actually feels like 4.3 0r 4.5 i dont have a scope but watch his video on VRMS. Im not knocking them by no means like i said i have the young june and love it i just dial it back a bit because it pushes way more then what you set it too hope this helps.

 

[elmattias]

one thing to note: only the CHROME version has the recessed juice well....i have one of these and it's a good device....just be warned, the PWM is going to throw you for a loop the first couple days.

 

[ch47chief]

Throw me for a loop? Please explain! I am aware of how it "punches" a bit harder with the PWM, and as with what I have heard I will just be starting low (based on my carto resistance) and dialing up until it is right. Thanks for all the insight though! Any other tips and tricks would be appreciated.

one thing to note: only the CHROME version has the recessed juice well....i have one of these and it's a good device

I assume you are talking about on the tube, and I got the chrome. Want to make sure I can fit eGo threads!

I too was worried about the warranty elma, and went ahead and purchased the 90 day. Normally I wouldn't, but being deployed and all I may need some additional reaction time to make a warranty claim should something go awry!

Thanks for the tips and reassurances!

 

[elmattias]

the extra punch is basically what i meant, it doesn't fire with more power, it just fires hotter....i find that i have to tune back quite a bit on mine....the only issue with mine as far as the warranty i've had to worry about was the rubber seal between the post and threads tore on me and i had to send it in after only one week...i can write that off as a dud seal though, i've not had any other major issues with it other than that.

 

[tj99959]

the extra punch is basically what i meant, it doesn't fire with more power, it just fires hotter....i find that i have to tune back quite a bit on mine....the only issue with mine as far as the warranty i've had to worry about was the rubber seal between the post and threads tore on me and i had to send it in after only one week...i can write that off as a dud seal though, i've not had any other major issues with it other than that.

Extra punch (hotter) is more power (voltage). That is simply the calibration of the volt reader. With PWM this is pretty common.

 

[Sam Medlock]

Hey there guys I also ordered a new vv I started out with a ego-t kit then upgraded to a couple ego twists now I have a new Z-Max kit on the way it should be here in the morning I don't know if I can wait that long without freaking out lol! I'm thinking of picking up a bolt and getting a kick for it to as well. Anyways good luck on your young-June lava tube those look really nice for the price....we will both be in vaping heaven very soon!!!!

 

[Baditude]

The VZ Pro is an American rebranding of the Chinese IMotion 2. It's had a history of problems, mostly notably the same ones that plague the other mid-level variable voltage mods from China; more specifically, delivering higher voltage to attachments than what is set by the user, and particularly true with the lower range of voltage. Many owners are aware of this issue and simply compensate their voltage settings accordingly. Just be aware to be cautious at first when using your new device that it may take several vapes before a new voltage setting actually takes effect.

I'd also get rid of those generic IMR batteries and get youself a couple of genuine AW 18650 IMR's.

You were wise to get the extended warranty, for whatever that is worth. Such a short warranty makes me suspicious of the manufacturer's and vendor's confidence in the product. This model was going to be rebranded and sold under the name of the Vario by Vapor Beast about a month ago, but the release date was delayed by Vapor Beast because of substandard quality issues.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/variable-voltage-apv-discussion/330426-apollo-vtube-vs-provari-5.html#post7217619

http://www.vaporbeast.com/The_VARIO_Advanced_Personal_Vaporizer_p/sk27.htm?Click=391

 

[elmattias]

Extra punch (hotter) is more power (voltage). That is simply the calibration of the volt reader. With PWM this is pretty common.

Voltage is not power, it's pressure, wattage is power...I meter my own device, it gives me what I set on the screen, it's the way it's delivered and the amperage (flow) that give you more heat....not necessarily an inaccuracy on the device

Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 2

 

[Doogmar]

Nice unit. Curious to see how it works out for you. I'm glad I didn't know about these, otherwise I would've bought it instead of my Provari Btw I'm super happy about my Provari, but I would've tried this first

 

[ch47chief]

Thanks for the heads up baditude! I am aware of some of the voltage regulation issues users have expirienced with a lot of the Chinese mods. As I said in a previous post, I plan to start as low as I can while still getting a vape, and slowly creep up to my desired setting. Knowing of these issues is also why I got the (little as it is) extended warrantee and packed on a bunch of extra cartos and heads for the VZ Nova I purchased as well with my order. I'll probably end up settling somewhere between 2-3 ohms on most of the future cartos I purchase, but I got a wide range to play around a bit to start. So, if I burn out a few...meh...no biggy.

Now, as for an update on my expirience with vaporzone. All I can say is WOW. If their product comes close to their customer service, I will be completely satisfied. I had added an additional 18650 batt with my order (as a backup for the VZ Pro) and I got an e-mail telling me it was not the right size and would not work with the VZ Pro if thats what I intended to do. Leah has e-mailed me back and forth all day now answering my questions and letting me know about compatibility issues and ensuring I am satisfied with what I will recieve before they send it. After identifying that there may be a lack of performace with the 1.5 dual coil cartos I ordered, Leah checked into the problem and advised me how to properly use the product without damaging the cartos. That being said, she threw in a few free 3.2 ohm single coils with my order as that is what she uses, and wants me to be able to find what works for me. WOW...just WOW.

I am so impressed, and as I said before, if the product lives up to the customer service provided, I'll be a VZ customer for life. To be clear, I am no spokes person for VZ, just simply want to show appreciation for somebody taking the time to do right by a customer. You don't see that much lately, and I really appreciate it. Say what you may about the product (again, I know it's not a Provari) but CS like that can't be beat!

Thanks again Leah @ VZ!

I'll update when my order gets here...counting the seconds now.....stupid 808...can't wait to move on!

 

[Doogmar]

Nice Having never used VZ before its good to hear. I'll make sure I make a future purchase there when I need something. Good customer service is always important.

 

[Darksyde]

I've been eyeballing the vz pro mod as well. Please update when you get it and let us know how it works. If it does well I will be getting one for sure.

 

[SissySpike]

The Device is as stated above I did a review on it. Imotion2 V+ From CigStar AKA VZ Pro, - YouTube CigStar is the Chinese manufacturer They sent me one for review proposes. Ive been in contact with them they say they will adjust the vapetime cut off as of now you get 9 seconds. It will also shut its self off if you leave it in your car in the sun very long. Then you have to hold it by the AC vent to get it to work again. The Meter is not consistent with the voltage at the lower end. They use the cheapest form of circuitry in these mods. They dump raw power to your accessory of choice. There is no feed back or stepping up and down. So yes they seem to hit harder because they do. But at your expense its wearing out your attys carts, ViVi novas quicker.
Part of the expence of the Provari is the chip set its not the cheapest thing they could find to get your money. Also Its made of Stainless 316 not 300 series like the Chinese mods. This is considerably more difficult to work with than the copper used in your VZ Pro.
Im willing to bet Provape makes less from what they charge for top notch quality than cigstar charges for cheep inconsistent medeoker performance. All versions have the deep well but only a 510 conection it dose not have the external ego threads.
So you have an Ok mod coming but untill you pay the price you will not have the good feeling of American product in your hands, and the satisfied feeling of knowing you support American manufacturer's

 

[Boden]

I calculated the offset for the Vavg (what the display shows) vs Vrms (what you get) for these devices based on 3Ohm coils for you.

Set the device at 3V you get 4.1V, 4V you get 4.8V, 5V you get 5.5V, 6V you get ~6V.

I would not use anything under 3Ohms as the output becomes unstable and will likely pop a coil.

 

[Doogmar]

I calculated the offset for the Vavg (what the display shows) vs Vrms (what you get) for these devices based on 3Ohm coils for you.

Set the device at 3V you get 4.1V, 4V you get 4.8V, 5V you get 5.5V, 6V you get ~6V.

I would not use anything under 3Ohms as the output becomes unstable and will likely pop a coil.

Ah yeah it seems like a lot of Chinese made pv's have this issue since the community was using Vavg. The new Lavatube I was going to get apparently had this issue, and were withdrawn so that they could recalibrate the units. overall I'm thankful because I went ahead and got a Provari. I imagine as more reviews start using Vrms, the chinese products will be calibrated that way, since thats what the end consumer is going to expect.

 

[ch47chief]

Well! It seems I did not purchase a Provari for $72 after my coupon code! I am ashamed and regretful...nah...I understand it's not the Provari! I was simply trying to make a comparison, and clearly to Provari owners there isn't one...and comparing is a no-no!

To clarify, I am deployed...I am not having a Provari shipped out here! $72 I can live with losing...over $200...nah...not a chance! So, we will see how it all goes. I'll post my update once it gets here and let ya'll know what I think of it.

Oh and before I forget, thank you for the lecture about supporting America, buzz. Duly noted...I see by your massive list (impressive BTW) of PVs that you too have supported the Chinese on more than one occasion. So please, while your insight to the device is appreciated, spare me the lecture.

Sorry bout the poor and unruly attitude everybody. But just coming off a 14 hr shift in Afghanistan, that was the absolute last thing I wanted to read when I got back to my room....


EDIT: I just re-read this and saw how rude it came across. Again, my apologies. I didn't change anything on the post because it is really how I feel.

Buzz, I'm sure I prolly took that the wrong way, and all I can say is my bad. Just a rough day really. I've watched plenty of your reviews and really appreciate your insight.

Sorry again and happy vaping all!

 

[Doogmar]

Hey Ch47chief thanks for all you are doing out there Hope to see you home safe I'm a new Provari owner, but I would've bought one of those if I knew about them

Take care out out there and enjoy your new rig when you get it, I'm sure you'll love it

 

[Baditude]

I am ashamed and regretful...nah...I understand it's not the Provari! I was simply trying to make a comparison, and clearly to Provari owners there isn't one...and comparing is a no-no!

Funny observation about Provari owners...but it's true and a well-earned observation. We just love our device. In fact, PBusardo included the same observation in his review of the Provari 2. You only need watch the first 2 minutes to see it, its actually pretty funny.