Stick this "you know where"!

[Glen Snyder]

Welp, I'm one of those guys. Went through a drawer full of cartos, clearos and various other Chinese junk and now on a VAMO & smok rsst. My first mesh wick & 30 ga coil came to a nice and cozy 1.8 ohm and its been absolutely sublime! This is all in 10 days. Hehe.

My point is the intel on this epic site IS THERE. I searched and read, lather wrince repeat. Maybe it would be effective to simply remind folks to SEARCH first?

Well, that's a great thing, just remember...You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink. Congrats on having the common sense to do your homework and move forward in a responsible manner, I did the same thing here on ECF at each step of the process.

 

[Steam Turbine]

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keep it civil

If you don't care about educating new members about safety, be my guest... Get out of here and go troll any one of my other daily threads.

Glad to see that most people do care about it. Like PBusardo said in his NZonic rant: "One day... It's gonna bite "

The media won't care that cigarettes causes more fires than e cigs. They will scream out loud that e cigs are far more dangerous when more and more noobs blows up because they think that their "0.2 ohm aga t on their natural with a li-ion 3200 mAh vapes like a dream!"

 

[Fenris4024]

Can't agree more about people needing to KNOW what they're doing before melting their face off, because it will only take just a few (perhaps only one) of those Darwin Award winners to screw it all up for everyone.

I've been browsing the new member's thread too, trying to help where I can as well... and I think I give honest answers, and almost always give a warning when the usual "I've been vaping 4 2 dayz, shud I get a provari?" threads pops up. (man that hurt to even type like that...). I'll read the thread, see if the person is a DA winner, and either warn them off of something THAT much of a jump, or what have you. In two days, you have zero frame of reference for why the Provari is $200, you just read (probably in a facebook page or on reddit) that it was the best, and that you should get one.

Same thing for RBA's. Its not a matter of "can I build a .0001 ohm coil?", it should be "SHOULD I build a .0001 ohm coil?" My friend has a mech (no idea what kind or whatever, I know its nice, and I know he paid through the nose for it, and I know I called him a dumba** too), and I've tried it more than once with a 1ohm coil... hits like a semi, and that's great and all, but the difference is he's an electrical engineer, and has at least a working grasp of how all that works. But once again, do you really NEED that much of a risk of melting your face off?

I love shiny new tech, and I love seeing what can be pushed to make things (not just vaping) better, but when you can potentially melt a part of your body off because you didn't read the warnings/ do your research...

 

[minimalsaint]

If you don't care about educating new members about safety, be my guest... Get out of here and go troll any one of my other daily threads.

Glad to see that most people do care about it. Like PBusardo said in his NZonic rant: "One day... It's gonna bite us in the ...!"

The media won't care that cigarettes causes more fires than e cigs. They will scream out loud that e cigs are far more dangerous when more and more noobs blows up because they think that their "0.2 ohm aga t on their natural with a li-ion 3200 mAh vapes like a dream!"

I have said it before. Not a fan of PB but his statement "just because you CAN doesn't mean you SHOULD" is one of the best yet.

 

[Orb Skewer]

Oh! you don't know where?

At the top of the new members forum.

Ok seriously:

I have been spending a lot of time today in the new members forum, answering question and whatnot and I was amazed by the amount of brand new members says things like: Just got this x mech with this y RBA and I am diving into this without any knowledge whatsoever.

So...

I would like to see a sticky called something like: WARNING new RBA users read this before attempting anything.

And then direct them to basic knowledge about battery safety and whatnot. Maybe Badtitude's blog about the subject or something.

There are only really 2 components in vaping with a very, very small 'potential' for hazard

1: high capacity re-chargeable batteries-
and
2: Nicotine (a toxic substance - at certain levels of concentration)

There are several 'stickies' for both components-somewhere on the vastness that is ECF

Here is a challenge for 'non-noobs' of ECF - go find them and post them here in this thread-there is a stopwatch running-lets see how long it takes

Ok
3-2-1,,,,, GO

 

[AttyPops]

I have said it before. Not a fan of PB but his statement "just because you CAN doesn't mean you SHOULD" is one of the best yet.

Wow. I am a fan if his, but he by no means owns that statement. Just say'n.

As to the Darwin thing...IDK. My personal approach (others may disagree) is that if I wouldn't recommend it to my kids or my brother or spouse, I wouldn't recommend it to a newbie that I didn't know either. I think the Darwin thing is an interesting post-event quip, but not a pre-event excuse. So I warn. I know you can only lead a horse to water, as G.S said above, but you should at least lead them there. So I agree with the "go and teach" thing.

Think About it - If they are asking those type questions, They are not looking for advice/warnings anyway.
How many people do you think actually read most of the stickies?

Even if it was a read requirement for joining ECF people would scroll down and click Accept.

Sum it up in one word - Darwin

Get into the thread, Do not support the insanity - Teach instead and hope a few listen.

 

[TampaToker69]

Kinda like the right to mount a rice burning crotch rocket and power up to 160 mph on the freeway?

I sincerely hope you got that it was sarcasm. lol

 

[AttyPops]

There are only really 2 components in vaping with a very, very small 'potential' for hazard

1: high capacity re-chargeable batteries-
and
2: Nicotine (a toxic substance - at certain levels of concentration)

There are several 'stickies' for both components-somewhere on the vastness that is ECF

Here is a challenge for 'non-noobs' of ECF - go find them and post them here in this thread-there is a stopwatch running-lets see how long it takes

Ok
3-2-1,,,,, GO

I would agree for IMMEDIATE harm as a generalization. Long term effect of a lot of stuff is unknown. So is ingredient X in terms of juice contents (like in the case of an extreme allergic reaction...but that's a specific not a generalization).

However, this thread speaks to the battery issue mostly. If it weren't for that issue, would we need this thread?

 

[Orb Skewer]

Tic..toc..tic..toc...........

 

[Glen Snyder]

I sincerely hope you got that it was sarcasm. lol

Absolutely

 

[Orb Skewer]

Thats 1 hour
and the clock is still running......

 

[CrimsonJack]

I spent a couple weeks researching when I decided to start vaping to figure out what equipment to start with, and after almost 2 months, I STILL have no interest in rebuilding ANYTHING. I would no more build my own atomizer or whatever than I would build my own lamp, because I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HELL I AM DOING. I see plenty of people talking about how easy it is to rebuild, recoil, etc., then I look at the instruction video or whatnot and think to myself, "Yeah, but that basically goes in my MOUTH." and I get a visual of Daffy duck with his bill blown to the back of his head by an exploding cigar. People have to have some common sense with these things. It was clearly stated pretty much everywhere I looked what "entry level" really was, and if people choose to ignore that, well....there's only so much you can do. After 2 months I feel like I'm ready for a VV/VW unit, but rebuilding? No thanks. My Protank's doing me just fine so far.

 

[Glen Snyder]

I spent a couple weeks researching when I decided to start vaping to figure out what equipment to start with, and after almost 2 months, I STILL have no interest in rebuilding ANYTHING. I would no more build my own atomizer or whatever than I would build my own lamp, because I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HELL I AM DOING. I see plenty of people talking about how easy it is to rebuild, recoil, etc., then I look at the instruction video or whatnot and think to myself, "Yeah, but that basically goes in my MOUTH." and I get a visual of Daffy duck with his bill blown to the back of his head by an exploding cigar. People have to have some common sense with these things. It was clearly stated pretty much everywhere I looked what "entry level" really was, and if people choose to ignore that, well....there's only so much you can do. After 2 months I feel like I'm ready for a VV/VW unit, but rebuilding? No thanks. My Protank's doing me just fine so far.

Just don't buy your supplies from ACME and you'll be fine

 

[Heavyrocker]

Im 8 months into vaping and i never started RBA`s and mech until a few months ago,i must have watched every tutorial on the tube and read every post on this site.What i am really concerned about is lately Mechs are getting more popular and beginners need too be very careful with them.I also thinking the saftey issues with batts will be the ''ammo' that the powers that be, will use too shut down the the ecig business.

 

[minimalsaint]

Wow. I am a fan if his, but he by no means owns that statement. Just say'n.

In regards to the context of this thread, he is the one who said it.
"The best yet" referring to what I believe was his most valid statement IMHO.
Just sayin'

 

[Orb Skewer]

2 hours........
It can't be that difficult surely ?

 

[Fenris4024]

I spent a couple weeks researching when I decided to start vaping to figure out what equipment to start with, and after almost 2 months, I STILL have no interest in rebuilding ANYTHING. I would no more build my own atomizer or whatever than I would build my own lamp, because I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HELL I AM DOING. I see plenty of people talking about how easy it is to rebuild, recoil, etc., then I look at the instruction video or whatnot and think to myself, "Yeah, but that basically goes in my MOUTH." and I get a visual of Daffy duck with his bill blown to the back of his head by an exploding cigar. People have to have some common sense with these things. It was clearly stated pretty much everywhere I looked what "entry level" really was, and if people choose to ignore that, well....there's only so much you can do. After 2 months I feel like I'm ready for a VV/VW unit, but rebuilding? No thanks. My Protank's doing me just fine so far.

**Disclaimer: the following rant is not directed at you Jack**

I started just like you Jack... took my time READ EVERYTHING religiously, and finally, after talking with my SO about the pros and cons, decided to move into a device like a VAMO (shes a never-smoked-in-her-life'er, and is so supportive that I'd be an for not including her in the decisions. She's been behind me 100% with vaping, DIY'ing liquids (lemme tell ya about doing some research...those stickies have a LOT of info to process!), and she reads CASAA info as well. She's my rock, and the reason I ask "should I?"

The ONLY reason I got my phoenix and IGO-L was to have an easier test bed for tasting the DIY's. I knew I could very well end up like Daffy , so I stick to 2.0 ohm coils (give or take a small margin, still not a pro). Could I rebuild my EVOD and Protank heads? Most likely. Can I buy them for dirt cheap? yup. so why bother with the rebuilds? I already clean them and get months of use out a few heads, I see really little point to spending a little bit to have fresh heads when these die off, especially when I am mixing my own liquids.

Knowing your limits and what you personally are comfortable with is the biggest thing we can all do as humans. Just because "Vapeshadydawg" over on reddit said what he does, doesn't mean that you, or myself, or Ocelot*, or anyone else on this forum has to run out and try to be "awesome like him"... (apologies if there REALLY is a vapeshadydawg)

If you want to push boundaries, then do so safely. Know what can happen if that battery shorts, know how to maintain your gear. Know what to use in what, and if you're asking people here about which batteries to use in a mech mod so you can vape sub-ohm, then you certainly don't know what you're doing, and you seriously need to re-think the idea.

Vape safe. That's all I'm asking.









(*Besides, Ocelot has Bobo... nothing is more awesome than BoBo)

 

[DaveP]

I must be slow. 3 years and some months in and I'm still happy with 2.0 to 3.0 ohm coils at 3.7v to 4.5 volts.

Didn't care for my first try at the Kanger Protank (too airy). I cranked up a Vivi Nova again the other day and felt like my eyeballs were being sucked back in my head with the hard draw.

Now, the Protank seems normal and tasty. I think we all lock in on preferences and tend to stick with what works. There are lots of RBA posts in the new members threads these days. I guess they think it's what they should dive into.

 

[Hidden Dragon]

I must be slow. 3 years and some months in and I'm still happy with 2.0 to 3.0 ohm coils at 3.7v to 4.5 volts.

Didn't care for my first try at the Kanger Protank (too airy). I cranked up a Vivi Nova again the other day and felt like my eyeballs were being sucked back in my head with the hard draw.

Now, the Protank seems normal and tasty. I think we all lock in on preferences and tend to stick with what works. There are lots of RBA posts in the new members threads these days. I guess they think it's what they should dive into.

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Funny, as I sit here on my lunch break at my desk, I'm looking at the same exact set up in front of my screen as I type.

 

[RedForeman]

Oh! you don't know where?

At the top of the new members forum.

Ok seriously:

I have been spending a lot of time today in the new members forum, answering question and whatnot and I was amazed by the amount of brand new members says things like: Just got this x mech with this y RBA and I am diving into this without any knowledge whatsoever.

So...

I would like to see a sticky called something like: WARNING new RBA users read this before attempting anything.

And then direct them to basic knowledge about battery safety and whatnot. Maybe Badtitude's blog about the subject or something.

Unless I missed it scanning the 4 pages so far, am I the only one to note the irony of this post coming from someone that joined two months ago? Or that most of the supporting discussion is coming from others just as new?

I get it that many will lurk for months or even years before actually joining. Just an observation, nothing personal. That is all, carry on