Strongest Dekang tobacco flavors?

[VR59]

Was wondering if anyone can give some input on Dekang tobacco flavors, specifically from Heaven Gifts.
I've been trying quite a lot of vendors and most I really like a lot, (DIY Flavor Shack, Nhalers, JuicyVapor, Jane's Kick juice and Pure smoker to name a few).
However, with the possible exception of Drew's Nhaler stuff, most of these I find a bit expensive for an every day vape. On a side note to Drew's, does anyone find the high voltage tends to dry the throat out a bit more than usual? (I'll have to order some of his regular stuff and compare, love his flavors and prices though).
Anyhow, on to the Dekang question ... for starters I haven't found a better price, IF you order a lot to offset the shipping costs. In my experience the flavors seem to be toned down a bit from the American companies but they do seem to leave a very pleasing sort of sweet thick vapor for me, (prodigy at 5v). Hard to explain but maybe a heavy milk like vapor, I love that sensation.
But ... I'm looking to find some of the heavier or stronger tobacco flavors. So far in my experience the Tab seems to be the strongest, and Kent seems very very weak to me.
Here is what I have tried:
RY4, 555, Winston, Flue Cured, Hilton, Tab, Kent

Do most of you agree that Tab is probably the strongest tobaccoish flavor and Kent sort of weak? I read other posts where people seem to like Kent a lot, I just can't seem to taste it too much. And any experience with Virginia? From other vendors it seems rather flavorful to me, but not sure if Dekang would be the same.
Well, sorry about lots of rambling but I guess I am just looking for feedback on the Heaven Gifts tobacco flavors and which ones might be the strongest or richest tobacco flavors?

 

[MaxUT]

Try the Turkish flavor, it has a full bodied tobacco taste somewhat like pipe tobacco. I just drained the last of my bottle about 1/2 hr ago.

Turkish E Liquid

There's also a Dark Tobacco Blend that looks interesting.

I tried the Winston, it seemed a little weak on flavor. B&H was better.

 

[youfillintheblank]

the Cigar is pretty rich tasting, Winston good too. Parliament has a burning paper side to it and is kinda "dry" tasting, and B&H definitely has some kind of cigarette ash taste/smell. If I burn some in a manual ecig and wave it under my nose I smell an ashtray. 5/5 for putting cigarette ashes in the flavouring. Maybe mix some Parliament and B&H for the paper/ash combo like a real smoke.

 

[hyperdeficit]

555 is a good semi tobacco flavor, i wouldnt call it a real tobaco because of the nuttyness of it. ry4 the same thing. it is too sweet to be a tobacco flavor but they are supposed to be

 

[VR59]

Sounds like the Turkish might be the thing to try. Of what I have tried I definitely thought Tab was the heaviest/smokiest? I should have mentioned this before but the reason I want something really strong is to mix with, err umm cover up some experiments gone awry
The particulars? Well um .. put too much carmel (for me) into some RY4. Wasn't really that much but too overpowering to use as an every day vape. Then I tried to dilute it with that weak tasting Kent, no go so I added just a few drops of cinnamon. Dang, just like 10 to 15 drops to a 30 ml bottle I think.
Anyhow, the carmel is subdued now, yay, but too strong on the cinnamon, dang it! I added the last of my Tab which has helped a lot but still not there. So now I'm left with almost 2 full 30 ml bottles of not bad, but too cinnamony. Thank goodness they're only 9 bucks a pop, but I am convinced that some more tab, or something even stronger, (turkish sounds good if it's what I'm imagnining), will give me a something useable ...?
Ha ha, or even more to go into the trash ...
Or ... I could go with some more expensive, like DIY double flavor ... just hoping to salvage what I have so far.
Still wondering if I'll learn my lesson with this mixing, I know, small quantities! But, that's hard with carmel and cinnamon as only a few drops can really overwhelm. On a positive note the chocolate and mint is excellent!

 

[RazorNribbonz]

lol vr59, you are as wordy as me :: lil laugh

Could you define what you mean by "strong"..Do you mean Strong as in - the hit/harshness level/analog like, strong in flavor or maybe smokey campfire kinda strong?..Out of the ones you have,which one do you like in its "Level of sweetness"?

I'm like you, I actually like the tobacco flavs from china/dekang ( also use a prodigy)...The sweet hay background flav in the Kent, I can only vape every so often too...As Ive said, Winston is my fave, It's got strong in hit-hint of spiciness but, not a strong background flavor, which makes it perfect for me for using it as a base to add other flavors to it, very anaolog like and is like a few steps above hilton for me.. Benson and hedges falls in this catagory for me too...Virginia to me has kind of a very mild flue cured undertone....Cubin Cigar is strong/hit, has kind of a rich buttery undertone, It also is dry vape ( for lack of a better word) Im not sure if dekang has cubin cigar or reg cigar and if they are the same...
Turkish blend is spicey but, strangely I did not like it...However,The absolute strongest tobacco liquid I have EVER found ( as far ash level of harshness/lung/throat hit) Is hands down Heavy Shag by joye (i think dietsmokes carries it) I can't vape it by its self but, If you want to increase the harshness/ hit level in another flav add a lil of this.. I fined cuban cigar to be a milder version of doing this...
NOTE: All the ones Iv'e mentioned above are no or low sweetness level...If you like that smokiness/ kinda campfire taste with just a hint of sweetness..Try Runyan #4 not to be confused with RY4 which is much more sweet/caramel/sweet...
Get you a good base of tobaccos and mix/blend them to what you want exactly...Asfillin theblank said - mixing winston with benson and hedges... maybe add in a lil tab if you want to increase the sweetness level or a lil heavyshag/cubincigar to increase the hit level etc,...By the way, winston with a lil cinnamon is my fav ( bummer about the too much cinnamon lol)

FYI Did you know its proven that cinnamon ( as in a tooth pick) helps with the cravings when quitting anaolgs ( i found that interesting)

 

[VR59]

lol vr59, you are as wordy as me :: lil laugh

Could you define what you mean by "strong"..Do you mean Strong as in - the hit/harshness level/analog like, strong in flavor or maybe smokey campfire kinda strong?..Out of the ones you have,which one do you like in its "Level of sweetness"?

I'm like you, I actually like the tobacco flavs from china/dekang ( also use a prodigy)...The sweet hay background flav in the Kent, I can only vape every so often too...As Ive said, Winston is my fave, It's got strong in hit-hint of spiciness but, not a strong background flavor, which makes it perfect for me for using it as a base to add other flavors to it, very anaolog like and is like a few steps above hilton for me.. Benson and hedges falls in this catagory for me too...Virginia to me has kind of a very mild flue cured undertone....Cubin Cigar is strong/hit, has kind of a rich buttery undertone, It also is dry vape ( for lack of a better word) Im not sure if dekang has cubin cigar or reg cigar and if they are the same...
Turkish blend is spicey but, strangely I did not like it...However,The absolute strongest tobacco liquid I have EVER found ( as far ash level of harshness/lung/throat hit) Is hands down Heavy Shag by joye (i think dietsmokes carries it) I can't vape it by its self but, If you want to increase the harshness/ hit level in another flav add a lil of this.. I fined cuban cigar to be a milder version of doing this...
NOTE: All the ones Iv'e mentioned above are no or low sweetness level...If you like that smokiness/ kinda campfire taste with just a hint of sweetness..Try Runyan #4 not to be confused with RY4 which is much more sweet/caramel/sweet...
Get you a good base of tobaccos and mix/blend them to what you want exactly...Asfillin theblank said - mixing winston with benson and hedges... maybe add in a lil tab if you want to increase the sweetness level or a lil heavyshag/cubincigar to increase the hit level etc,...By the way, winston with a lil cinnamon is my fav ( bummer about the too much cinnamon lol)

FYI Did you know its proven that cinnamon ( as in a tooth pick) helps with the cravings when quitting anaolgs ( i found that interesting)

Oh no, was afraid to quote your whole message because with my wordiness this will probably be a couple pages, ha ha ha. I know I am horribly wordy, funny though, not when I talk, just typing. Hate telephones and my wife says I should talk more so the kids learn to talk better, jeez!

Anyhow, yep, I mean smokey campfire flavorful kind of strong, (good description). And funny, it actually was Runyan #4 I started with, sorry I thought it was the same as RY4, ahhhh. Yep, I am kind of blaming this on my ignorance and on Dawn. One of my orders she sent along a freebie, small small little vial of caramel. So ... I thought "Oh, that would be nice to sweeten up my Runyan #4". Then all I could taste was caramel ... and on and on
Yep, I also like the Winston very much, probably one of my favs and now that Dawn sent me some cinnamon too, yummy! But ... way to overpowering for me to use often, I think just a drop or two would suffice to a 30 ml bottle for a "hint".
Funny how you describe Kent, I just don't think my pallet is quite there yet, but a sweet hay like? Interesting, as is your description of dry, that makes sense to me, I definitely get that feeling from the tab and a little less with Hilton.
And yep, HG does carry a cuban cigar and a regular cigar too - seems like cuban might have a bit more of the campfire smokiness but who knows?
So, looks like I just may try the Cuban cigar or Turkish blend (Figuring I will stick with Heaven Gifts as I need some atty's too).
Certainly appreciate the advice, but I better quit typing now, ha ha

 

[RazorNribbonz]

Oh no, was afraid to quote your whole message because with my wordiness this will probably be a couple pages, ha ha ha. I know I am horribly wordy, funny though, not when I talk, just typing.

but I better quit typing now, ha ha

rofl. I'm the same way .. Way more wordy in print...

Have you thought about mixing the TAB half n half with your Runyan#4..sounds like the best of both worlds...... I have yet to try the TAB ( skerred to= i dont care for caramel liquids) but i will say you have me intrigued...So does the parliment....Good luck.....Ivy

 

[VR59]

rofl. I'm the same way .. Way more wordy in print...

Have you thought about mixing the TAB half n half with your Runyan#4..sounds like the best of both worlds...... I have yet to try the TAB ( skerred to= i dont care for caramel liquids) but i will say you have me intrigued...So does the parliment....Good luck.....Ivy

Well, I did put some TAB into the mixture in question, and I think it is the way to go to make this blend I have useable. Are you thinking the TAB is caramel based? I wouldn't have thought so, to me it is much more on the lines of a campy/smokey strong tobacco flavor. So, I might make that another one of my 9 bottles, but also probably some cuban cigar. Again, these aren't my regular vapes but I'm looking to add that really strong smokey type base to some mixes.
Oh, and I bet TAB and Runyan #4 would be good together. Personally I don't think the Runyan is that sweet, but as you know it's very subjective. Guess I will try the parliment too, though come to think of it I am not sure Heaven Gifts carries that?

 

[MaxUT]

However,The absolute strongest tobacco liquid I have EVER found ( as far ash level of harshness/lung/throat hit) Is hands down Heavy Shag by joye (i think dietsmokes carries it)

I'm going to try that one, thanks for mentioning it. My Throat Hit Detector is busted, I'm afraid.

Right after the Tasty Vapor 48mg Tobacco comes in...

 

[mycro]

virgina and turkish are my favs, but they weren't from heavens gifts, altho they were dekang