Sub ohming dangers?

[spookyasian]

Hi there,
I'm a new vapor about to get my first mod and I'm thinking about the hana modz v3 with a kanger mini but I noticed that I need to buil coils with it. And with research I found that sub ohming can have its dangers. Along with this atomizer it has a 0.5 ohm coil. Can it be dangerous for a noob vapor like myself? As I have read the hana modz v3 doesn't come with a battery. It's a 13650 one and what brand is the best to use safety wise?
Thanks so much
S

 

[Baditude]

Hi there,
I'm a new vapor about to get my first mod and I'm thinking about the Hana modz v3 with a kanger mini but I noticed that I need to buil coils with it. And with research I found that sub ohming can have its dangers. Along with this atomizer it has a 0.5 ohm coil. Can it be dangerous for a noob vapor like myself? As I have read the Hana modz v3 doesn't come with a battery. It's a 13650 one and what brand is the best to use safety wise?

Being that the Hana Mod is a high wattage regulated APV, it will be safer than a mechanical mod. Regulated mods have protective circuitry against short circuits caused by noob mistakes in most cases.

I believe you made a typo; I believe you meant 18650 and not 13650. There are several 18650 batteries that you should consider. They must be high drain IMR (safe chemisty) batteries of at least 20 amps continuous discharge rate.

Battery Basics for Mods <--- list of high drain IMR batteries with specifications

Deeper Understanding of Mod Batteries

Information Resources for Your First RBA

I use Sony VTC4 and Samsung25R batteries myself. I recommend purchasing your batteries and charger from RTD Vapor, Illumination Supply, Orbtronics, or Lighthound.

 

[DaveSignal]

.5 ohm would be safe even on a mechanical mod with any high-drain 18650 battery.

 

[spookyasian]

Being that the Hana Mod is a high wattage regulated APV, it will be safer than a mechanical mod. Regulated mods have protective circuitry against short circuits caused by noob mistakes in most cases.

I believe you made a typo; I believe you meant 18650 and not 13650. There are several 18650 batteries that you should consider. They must be high drain IMR (safe chemisty) batteries of at least 20 amps continuous discharge rate.

Battery Basics for Mods <--- list of high drain IMR batteries with specifications

Deeper Understanding of Mod Batteries

Information Resources for Your First RBA

I use Sony VTC4 and Samsung25R batteries myself. I recommend purchasing your batteries and charger from RTD Vapor, Illumination Supply, Orbtronics, or Lighthound.

So would my intended setup be a good starting point and a good point of safety for a newer vapor like me?

 

[Baditude]

So would my intended setup be a good starting point and a good point of safety for a newer vapor like me?

Yes, it should.

Its still a good idea to know a little of Ohm's Law so that you don't ask your mod to do something its not able to do.

Ohm's Law for Vapers

 

[justinlm24]

There can be dangers with almost any setup or mod. Some more than others. Especially if you get into mech mods. Best thing you can do is research. Loads of stuff here on the forums and elsewhere on the web. YouTube videos, etc. Can never know too much. I personally don't build coils but I have still watched many videos and read up on it just in case I ever wanna try it. I'd say the setup you have is a good beginner setup. Then as you gain experience you could move on to other things if you choose to. Good luck in your adventures

 

[Susan~S]

Just something to be aware of regarding these subΩ tanks. They are designed for direct lung inhaling. The Mini Subtank can be closed down for MTL (mouth-to-lung) inhaling but that does often result in a hotter vape.

 

[spookyasian]

Yes, it should.

Its still a good idea to know a little of Ohm's Law so that you don't ask your mod to do something its not able to do.

Ohm's Law for Vapers

Sorry for asking for help, but this is the last thing. When I'm buying my batter for my setup on 30w and below and 0.5 ohms I'm looking at Sony 18650 battery's, what level of mAh should I buy do my setup?

 

[Katya]

I'm a new vapor about to get my first mod and I'm thinking about the Hana modz v3 with a kanger mini but I noticed that I need to buil coils with it.

Hi Spooky and welcome. Like others have said, you're about to get a regulated mod, so you should be relatively safe. But if you're brand new to vaping and are uneasy about winding your own coils, maybe you should start with something simpler. You can always get a sub-ohm tank or an RBA later, if you need to.

I would recommend an inexpensive battery like iStick 30 or Defender 36 or MVP 20 or 3 (depending on your needs, present and future) and a couple of reliable and easy tanks with replaceable coils. I like Eleaf GS Air tanks--they are cheap and vape great. Kanger Aerotanks and Emow Mega are also good.

Anyway, that's just my opinion.

Good luck.

 

[Topwater Elvis]

There are several good batteries that will work.
Continuous discharge rate expressed in amps is more important than mah.

VTC4 is 2100mah 30a CDR
Xtar 2100mah 30a CDR
Orbtonic sx 30 2100mah 30a CDR
AW 2200 mah 20a CDR
Smasung INR 25r 2500mah 20a CDR
LG he2 or 4 2500mah 20a CDR

 

[jseah]

The only danger that I have come across from subohming is the danger to my wallet. It is doubling my juice usage.

 

[EBates]

Hi there,
I'm a new vapor about to get my first mod and I'm thinking about the Hana modz v3 with a kanger mini but I noticed that I need to buil coils with it. And with research I found that sub ohming can have its dangers. Along with this atomizer it has a 0.5 ohm coil. Can it be dangerous for a noob vapor like myself? As I have read the Hana modz v3 doesn't come with a battery. It's a 13650 one and what brand is the best to use safety wise?
Thanks so much
S

I'm not sure what a 'Kanger Mini' is? Sub-tank Mini maybe? If so it should have come with both a .5 and a 1.2 ohm coil. It also has a rebuildable head, so you can build your own coils if you choose. In choosing a battery CDR (Continuous Discharge Rating) is the primary rating to consider. That is the maximum current draw that is 'Safe' for normal use for vaping. MAH (Milliamp Hours) is a measurement of how long the battery will last between recharges. For vaping at .5 ohm I'd go with a Samsung 25R but their are several others available that also good choices.

 

[Baditude]

The Sony VTC4 (2100 mAh) and VTC5 (2600 mAh) are both 30 amp continuous batteries; the VTC5 "should" last longer due to the higher mAh rating. However, these batteries are being discontinued:

Final word on Sony's production plans for the US18650 VTC4 and the US18650 VTC5 (April 9, 2015)

Topwater Elvis and myself (in my first link provided above) gave you a list of appropriate sub-ohm batteries:

VTC4 is 2100mah 30a CDR
Xtar 2100mah 30a CDR
Orbtonic sx 30 2100mah 30a CDR
AW 2200 mah 20a CDR
Smasung INR 25r 2500mah 20a CDR
LG he2 or 4 2500mah 20a CDR

The reason that I gave you reputable vendors to purchase these batteries, is so that you wouldn't get knockoffs or fakes. Today's battery market is extremely competitive. There happen to be a lot of disreputable vendors who are re-wrapping old harvested batteries from computers or re-wrapping poor quality batteries and disguising them to look like popular name brand batteries to make a quick buck off of unsuspecting consumers. AW and Sony batteries are the most common brands counterfeited.

Many of the batteries sold on Ebay and Amazon originated from Alibaba, a large distributor in China known to sell cheap and/or counterfeit batteries. AW (Andrew Wan) has said that all the so-called AW batteries sold by Alibaba are counterfeit.

There are also well known manufacturers such as Efest who rewrap other manufacturer's batteries and quote higher specifications than the original cell has. Purple Efest Batteries Not As Advertised

 

[Edward Aiz]

I agree with all the information provided above, just apply that information...only time it may be "dangerous" for a newbie is on an unregulated mod for there is no protection. So let's say you build an RDA and your legs (wire) are touching the metal barrel, you will get a short and this can turn into a problem if you don't catch it. Battery venting is another issue as well as overheating. Unregulated = battery safety. So until you get experience and/or knowledge with ohm's law and battery safety, please please do not get into the unregulated mods. But beings you are using a regulated mod you are much safer when you vape; of course you still need to understand battery safety and never ever let the battery drain completely or else you will need to purchase a special charger (quite expensive) to bring the battery back to life. So always recharge the battery anytime it reads 3.6 volts, anything voltage below 3.6 and you can damage the battery.

So as the other vapors spoke about, get a good battery, remain with the regulated mod until you get a good amount of knowledge and experience with battery safety or know-how.

The FDA/government and big tobacco and the media plays off this "dangerous" product(s) but believe me-you there is absolutely nothing dangerous about the vaping community as long as you understand ohm's law and battery safety; once those two things are fully understood then you are 100% in the safe zone.

I hope this info helps you to better understand the vaping community. Never shy away from the vaping community, all you need to do is ask questions (we always here for you), get a better understanding of battery safety and ohm's law and you are good to go.

Let us know if you have any other questions, we are always here to help. Have a good day.

 

[Rustynail17]

Take it from me. Dont run any lower then a .5 on 20 amp batteries. Your intentions are good though. But just be careful. I have vented 3 batteries... it's not fun.