Sub Zero weather.

[bstedh]

Does anyone have experience with their E-Cig outside in sub zero weather. I know we are a little way away from that time but Minnesota summers are not all that long.

I am wondering if I will need to make a heated mod for when I am working outside in the middle of winter. I know the batteries will not like the arctic conditions and I am assuming I will have issues with the atomizer/cartomizer in extreme cold weather.

I think I may need to start planning a mod build to address this so that I am ready at the end of the summer.

 

[bjannr]

Actually I thought mine worked better in the cold winter. The atty/carto did not seem to get as hot, and it appeared to produce a lot nor vapor. I kept it in an inside coat pocket until I wanted a vape.

 

[ouada]

You could buy a bunch of those giant chemical hand warmers and wrap the body. Is it the battery your more worried about keeping warm?

 

[CraigHB]

I wouldn't think an atomizer would have issue with the cold, after all they are just little heaters themselves and will warm up after a time. I've read the freezing point for the chemicals used in Li-Ion batts is around -40F. They work fine in the cold until they freeze. If you're going to be working outside in temperatures that cold, my hat is off to you. I could never do that.

 

[Lazrah]

The only concern I have about this coming winter is the Niquid itself.. what is the freezing point for juice?

 

[bstedh]

Well the two things I would worry about are how much the juice would thicken up below 0 F. Also my laptop batteries will only last about 10 min when it is below 0 F. As they are the same LI IO batteries I am assuming I will have the same longevity issue. I can't tell you what a hassle it is to have to run an extension cord from the inverter in my truck over to an equipment cabinet when it's that cold out.

 

[CraigHB]

The internal impedance of the batteries does go up in the cold. How much that impacts run time depends on current draw. With the laptop, the cold may be affecting things other than the battery to cause reduced run times. If you keep your e-cig in an inner pocket of your jacket, that should keep the battery warm enough. You don't need to keep it a whole lot warmer than ambient for sub zero conditions.

 

[Dwindacatcher]

I found that PVs work a lot better in winter. I live in michigan and have to do my vaping at work outdoors. As well as work in a cooler and freezer all day. Anything I left in my car worked like a charm when I got to it. Basically the atty stays cool so you never have to rotate attys/pv or simply wait for it to cool. Personally I find summer to be the pain. Makes me want to make a cooling mod so I can get more than 2-3 puffs before I have to hold it in front of the ac vent.

 

[Dalton63841]

The only concern I have about this coming winter is the Niquid itself.. what is the freezing point for juice?

VG has a freezing point of roughly -35 Fahrenheit. PG is roughly -60. Of course it would ultimately depend on the ratios of each in your particular e-liquid. In a nutshell, all "glycols" have VERY low freezing points, and they also lower the freezing point of anything they are mixed with. For instance, there is a fair chance that the antifreeze in your vehicle contains PG.

 

[Neon]

I live in Canada and have vaped in -30 C . With the 510 I noticed the atty taking a bit longer to heat up but performed well anyway. With the introduction of the ego and cone, I noticed that the cone really helps keep the heat in but without the cone its the same as the 510 (cools off faster) as for battery life, I've noticed no change. I bike all winter and carry my PV in my chest pocket of my jacket.

Neon

 

[bstedh]

I found that PVs work a lot better in winter. I live in michigan and have to do my vaping at work outdoors. As well as work in a cooler and freezer all day. Anything I left in my car worked like a charm when I got to it. Basically the atty stays cool so you never have to rotate attys/pv or simply wait for it to cool. Personally I find summer to be the pain. Makes me want to make a cooling mod so I can get more than 2-3 puffs before I have to hold it in front of the ac vent.

This is funny because I am already working on a cell phone cooler. I am ripping apart a 12V cooler that uses one of those "cant remember the name" electric cooling elements with a big heat sink. My cell phone over heats and quits charging on long trips as I have the GPS running along with Pandora and I also use it as an MP3 player. With all of this running it gets real hot real quick and can't charge fast enough to keep up with use with that much heat.

 

[CraigHB]

That's a Peltier device you're talking about. They're just thin flat element, like a tape. They actually work really good and I've heard of people using between the heatsink and CPU on computers, but they can work too good, freezing stuff and and causing condensation to build up. You could wrap one around an atty to keep it cool, though I don't know what the power requirement is. Might not be practical, too much drain on the battery.

 

[bstedh]

Unfortunately they do have high power demand and most use a rigid ceramic plate.

 

[mj64]

Kinda funny to be in the subzero thread but I also have problems with my tank-style devices in the summer heat. They all overwick terribly. I go back indoors and blow 'em out, and they are fine again....

 

[bstedh]

Kinda funny to be in the subzero thread but I also have problems with my tank-style devices in the summer heat. They all overwick terribly. I go back indoors and blow 'em out, and they are fine again....

Two layer tank mod with the outer tank holding freezer pack gel. Freeze and vape...

Or apply heat sync fins all the way around the carto

 

[TomCatt]

Hmmm.....

Summer tank juice - higher % VG

Winter tank juice - lower % VG

?

 

[TomCatt]

How about a box mod (wood or plastic) with a recessed atty/carto?

 

[mj64]

Two layer tank mod with the outer tank holding freezer pack gel. Freeze and vape...

Or apply heat sync fins all the way around the carto

I think I'll just stay indoors more...