Surgeon General advising local taxes and indoor-vaping-bans

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zoiDman

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Yeah, sure, it's probably partly based on "years of service".

BTW - If you give each of your Employees 1.33 Million Dollars, you probably Won't have too many people show up for work on Monday.

I've Never actually Done it. But I would still say the Likelihood is Very High.

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Seriously, the median price of a house in San Francisco (where juul is based) is $1.6 million now.
 
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From the first post:

"Nicotine is "very and uniquely harmful" to the developing brain, Adams said in an interview. "

If that is correct, then all nicotine patches and nicotine chewing gum should
be removed from the market immediately !
If it is true there should be direct evidence in the form of adults alive today who smoked as kids and have some measurable difference in brain function compared to people who never smoked. Where is that evidence?
 

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    Where is that evidence?
    Haven't seen such evidence yet. Although I remember reading an article from a med. related mag. showing the links to development problems (incl.brain dev.) with kids, who's moms were heavily smokers and didn't quit during pregnancy. It's not only due to nic. of course. Actually it will be interesting to check on the mom's these days who are vaping nic. juices during pregnancy, does it affect kids in any ways or not?

    From the other side of this statement, for example, mr. D.Trump claims he never smoked a cig nor drank alcohol in his life. And still many ppl are considering his mental state and brain development differences.
    Guess there are more factors that might play a role.
     
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    Haven't seen such evidence yet. Although I remember reading an article from a med. related mag. showing the links to development problems (incl.brain dev.) with kids, who's moms were heavily smokers and didn't quit during pregnancy. It's not only due to nic. of course. Actually it will be interesting to check on the mom's these days who are vaping nic. juices during pregnancy, does it affect kids in any ways or not?

    From the other side of this statement, for example, mr. D.Trump claims he never smoked a cig nor drank alcohol in his life. And still many ppl are considering his mental state and brain development differences.
    Guess there are more factors that might play a role.
    If nic is such a public health menace then everything that contains it needs to be banned. They can start with the FDA approved pharma gum and losanges. Then all the combustible tobacco products, then chewing tobacco, then snus, ad nausium. If they do all that, first, then I'm okay with the same for vaping.

    They are all members of some sort of liars club, competing to see how stupid they can talk and get away with it. Follow the money.
     

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    If nic is such a public health menace then everything that contains it needs to be banned. They can start with the FDA approved pharma gum and losanges. Then all the combustible tobacco products, then chewing tobacco, then snus, ad nausium. If they do all that, first, then I'm okay with the same for vaping.

    They are all members of some sort of liars club, competing to see how stupid they can talk and get away with it. Follow the money.


    My question is: where the hell is the FDA’s plan to ban caffeine products? I was in junior high when the energy drink craze took off, and many of my classmates drank them socially. Not only do they have a lot more caffeine than most coffee products, but they have more sugar than almost any other beverage.

    People need to stop pretending that the FDA works in the best interest of this country’s health.
     

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    If it is true there should be direct evidence in the form of adults alive today who smoked as kids and have some measurable difference in brain function compared to people who never smoked. Where is that evidence?

    Without nicotine my brains no longer work as they did about 55 years ago when I started smoking. Nicotine seems to work to prevent dementia.
     

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    Without nicotine my brains no longer work as they did about 55 years ago when I started smoking. Nicotine seems to work to prevent dementia.
    Nicotine without any doubt is finest (used to be) legal drug found on planet earth.
    The fact that some places want it to be entirely illegal means they’ll be on my boycott list for life.
    ECF is a giant nicotine love fest.
     

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    ECF is a giant nicotine love fest.
    This is to be expected since the vast majority of us have been addicted to it and find it difficult if not impossible to get away from completely.
    This doesn’t mean they’re wrong about the actions of the various interests involved in anti-ecig lobbying though.
     

    Ipster

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    This is to be expected since the vast majority of us have been addicted to it and find it difficult if not impossible to get away from completely.
    This doesn’t mean they’re wrong about the actions of the various interests involved in anti-ecig lobbying though.
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    I have been voluntarily addicted to: freshly ground, locally grown coffee; low temperature, vaped nicotine; all forms of love; stamping out hatred & ignorance; papayas; pineapples; pears; horses taller than 16hh; most canines and other domesticated critters;
    floating in the oceans of the world; etc., etc.,
    If my addictions are so toxic and life threatening to other beings that they must inact laws against me...
    Maybe this world should be turned on its head, 180degree flip over, enacting restraints on those so intent on curtailing the actions of others.
    Just sayin...
    No fear of benzine, nicotine or other micro unit ‘maybe’ ingredients in vaping are going to kill someones kids-imho.
     

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    I can easily believe that kids, having tried vaping, will like it more than they would have liked their first cigarette. But I'm mystified by the findings that kids who vape are more likely to start smoking. It seems to me that almost anyone who is used to vaping would find cigarettes just as revolting as most first-time smokers do. If they're desperate for nicotine and don't have access to vaping, sure, they'll take what they can get. But, having vaped, finding cigarettes preferable? Just doesn't make sense to me.
    Maybe ecigs are too hard to get consistently.
     
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