SvoёMesto KAYFUN 4
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Yeah, indeed they are...
...and I've personally never heard anyone argue that the Russian came first/was the original, a simple Google search would be able to set them right if, for whatever reason, they were confused on the matter.
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Today at 12:01 PM GOOD NEWS! Your package has left our premises and is now in the care of the Royal Mail.
Order date: 19/05/2015
Status Date
Order was received 19/05/2015 18:32
Viewed 20/05/2015 09:31
In process 20/05/2015 10:02
Ready for dispatch 20/05/2015 11:21
Dispatched 20/05/2015 12:01
Reconciled 20/05/2015 09:45
Paid 19/05/2015 18:32
Thank you for your order:
1 1 piece(s) SM-KFV4-01 SvoeMesto Kayfun V4
£119.95 20% £119.95
2 Subtotal
£119.95
3 Delivery method UK - Special Delivery
Royal Mail UK Special Delivery™ Next-Day
£7.95
4 Payment method PayPal
5 Tax area EU country (VAT included)
6 Total amount
£127.90
7 Total amount (without VAT)
£106.58
8 Including VAT of: 20 %
£21.32
Cloud 9 Vaping & Electronic Smoking SuppliesUnit 13 Anglo Business Park, Asheridge Road, Chesham BUCKS HP5 2QAinfo@c9v.co.ukwww.cloud9vaping.co.uk
I'm pretty sure SvoeMesto actually confirmed the rumour that the Russian was made by a former partner / employee was false and it was simply a clone of the Kayfun.
I identical, but I could be wrong. I don't have the time at the moment to break them down and take some pictures, but I'll do that tomorrow. Have to go to bed now because I work evenings...
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Can start with just exterior pics and if you have Dropbox it's nice and easy to upload. But I hear ya!
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The strange thing about the Russian is that it was able to get respect as an auth piece. I'm sure other clones are made well but sold at a fraction of the cost, the 91 was selling as a high end rta, it was sought after, and it held value in the secondary used market in the classies. I'm of the opine it was a knock off, but it's one of the only units of the kayfun that was able to do this from what I've seen.
Hey, did you get my PM buddy?
On topic: K4 is amazing!!!
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Kayfuns down the years...
With the release of V3 in mid-2012 SvoëMesto created a stir, heading differently and giving us an easier option from the Gennys - which were prevalent that time. Easy wicking and assembly, non leaky scenario, filling valve, tank options etc ~ and all the while vaping pretty well.
It wasn't marred with issues tho, and thus was the V3.1 born, soon! Which took away most of the concerns people had ~ was easier to fill, had a better deck arrangement, the chimney was split into two for an easy rebuilding experience and a catch-cup was introduced to eliminate leaking. And boy, it was an instant success!
Versions and the order they were released:
1. Kayfun V2............. 2011/2012................. Made in Russia
2. Kayfun V3 ES......... 2012......................... Made in Germany
3. Kayfun V3.1 ES...... January 2013............. Made in Germany
4. Kayfun Mini........... March 2013................ Made in Germany
5. Kayfun Lite............ May 2013................... Made in Germany
6. Kayfun Lite+.......... September 2013......... Made in Germany
7. Kayfun Lite+ V2..... Since February 2014.... Made in Germany
However, it was only in mid 2013 that the Kayfuns really caught on. With the advent of its LITEer avatar SvoëMesto really took the vaping world by storm ~ offering an affordable atty. A smaller and simplified version but with all the key features remaining intact. Exit the collector tank and the problematic fill-valve ~ the idea was devilishly effective!
The Russian fiasco
Along the same time The Russian came in as a blatant copy of the 3.1ES and soon it also came out with a better iteration of the LITE - The Russian 91%, adding an AFC to the small form factor. Both of which were made pretty well using the same materials and quality of workmanship (ah, made in China tho) and priced similar (tho the full version was way cheaper).
Was SM to be left behind?
No, four months to the Lite SM added the AFC, tad differently but nonetheless - and continued to keep the price at where it was. Thus we had the Lite+ and its success was imminent. Few months later they also upgraded the Lite+ making the fill port sturdier and adding a new type of drip tip. Thus the Lite+ V2.
User friendly, easy setting up and good price vs. quality makes the Kayfun appealing to both beginners as well as hardcore vapers. No wonder it sells approximately 1500 units a week around the globe!
Kayfun V4
Yes, an entire year goes by, much changes in the vaping environment, Kayfuns no more remain 'an atomizer' - but becomes "a type of Atomizer"! And there come a myriad of spinoffs of this 'type of atty', including a plethora of clones. Fairly long period, folks said, for no further innovation!
Whaat? No, SM dedicated this period to R&D. Took down one (the KF-Mini) and deliberated / dedicated all resources for a new version. The Kayfun 4 is born! And the saga continues.
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Inputs from:
a) Kayfun4 : caractéristiques et review d'un futur best seller
b) SvoëMesto | ask.fm/SvoeMesto[/QUOTE]
With the release of V3 in mid-2012 SvoëMesto created a stir, heading differently and giving us an easier option from the Gennys - which were prevalent that time. Easy wicking and assembly, non leaky scenario, filling valve, tank options etc ~ and all the while vaping pretty well.
It wasn't marred with issues tho, and thus was the V3.1 born, soon! Which took away most of the concerns people had ~ was easier to fill, had a better deck arrangement, the chimney was split into two for an easy rebuilding experience and a catch-cup was introduced to eliminate leaking. And boy, it was an instant success!
Versions and the order they were released:
1. Kayfun V2............. 2011/2012................. Made in Russia
2. Kayfun V3 ES......... 2012......................... Made in Germany
3. Kayfun V3.1 ES...... January 2013............. Made in Germany
4. Kayfun Mini........... March 2013................ Made in Germany
5. Kayfun Lite............ May 2013................... Made in Germany
6. Kayfun Lite+.......... September 2013......... Made in Germany
7. Kayfun Lite+ V2..... Since February 2014.... Made in Germany
However, it was only in mid 2013 that the Kayfuns really caught on. With the advent of its LITEer avatar SvoëMesto really took the vaping world by storm ~ offering an affordable atty. A smaller and simplified version but with all the key features remaining intact. Exit the collector tank and the problematic fill-valve ~ the idea was devilishly effective!
The Russian fiasco
Along the same time The Russian came in as a blatant copy of the 3.1ES and soon it also came out with a better iteration of the LITE - The Russian 91%, adding an AFC to the small form factor. Both of which were made pretty well using the same materials and quality of workmanship (ah, made in China tho) and priced similar (tho the full version was way cheaper).
Was SM to be left behind?
No, four months to the Lite SM added the AFC, tad differently but nonetheless - and continued to keep the price at where it was. Thus we had the Lite+ and its success was imminent. Few months later they also upgraded the Lite+ making the fill port sturdier and adding a new type of drip tip. Thus the Lite+ V2.
User friendly, easy setting up and good price vs. quality makes the Kayfun appealing to both beginners as well as hardcore vapers. No wonder it sells approximately 1500 units a week around the globe!
Kayfun V4
Yes, an entire year goes by, much changes in the vaping environment, Kayfuns no more remain 'an atomizer' - but becomes "a type of Atomizer"! And there come a myriad of spinoffs of this 'type of atty', including a plethora of clones. Fairly long period, folks said, for no further innovation!
Whaat? No, SM dedicated this period to R&D. Took down one (the KF-Mini) and deliberated / dedicated all resources for a new version. The Kayfun 4 is born! And the saga continues.
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Inputs from:
a) Kayfun4 : caractéristiques et review d'un futur best seller
b) SvoëMesto | ask.fm/SvoeMesto[/QUOTE]
Kayfuns down the years...
With the release of V3 in mid-2012 SvoëMesto created a stir, heading differently and giving us an easier option from the Gennys - which were prevalent that time. Easy wicking and assembly, non leaky scenario, filling valve, tank options etc ~ and all the while vaping pretty well.
It wasn't marred with issues tho, and thus was the V3.1 born, soon! Which took away most of the concerns people had ~ was easier to fill, had a better deck arrangement, the chimney was split into two for an easy rebuilding experience and a catch-cup was introduced to eliminate leaking. And boy, it was an instant success!
Versions and the order they were released:
1. Kayfun V2............. 2011/2012................. Made in Russia
2. Kayfun V3 ES......... 2012......................... Made in Germany
3. Kayfun V3.1 ES...... January 2013............. Made in Germany
4. Kayfun Mini........... March 2013................ Made in Germany
5. Kayfun Lite............ May 2013................... Made in Germany
6. Kayfun Lite+.......... September 2013......... Made in Germany
7. Kayfun Lite+ V2..... Since February 2014.... Made in Germany
However, it was only in mid 2013 that the Kayfuns really caught on. With the advent of its LITEer avatar SvoëMesto really took the vaping world by storm ~ offering an affordable atty. A smaller and simplified version but with all the key features remaining intact. Exit the collector tank and the problematic fill-valve ~ the idea was devilishly effective!
The Russian fiasco
Along the same time The Russian came in as a blatant copy of the 3.1ES and soon it also came out with a better iteration of the LITE - The Russian 91%, adding an AFC to the small form factor. Both of which were made pretty well using the same materials and quality of workmanship (ah, made in China tho) and priced similar (tho the full version was way cheaper).
Was SM to be left behind?
No, four months to the Lite SM added the AFC, tad differently but nonetheless - and continued to keep the price at where it was. Thus we had the Lite+ and its success was imminent. Few months later they also upgraded the Lite+ making the fill port sturdier and adding a new type of drip tip. Thus the Lite+ V2.
User friendly, easy setting up and good price vs. quality makes the Kayfun appealing to both beginners as well as hardcore vapers. No wonder it sells approximately 1500 units a week around the globe!
Kayfun V4
Yes, an entire year goes by, much changes in the vaping environment, Kayfuns no more remain 'an atomizer' - but becomes "a type of Atomizer"! And there come a myriad of spinoffs of this 'type of atty', including a plethora of clones. Fairly long period, folks said, for no further innovation!
Whaat? No, SM dedicated this period to R&D. Took down one (the KF-Mini) and deliberated / dedicated all resources for a new version. The Kayfun 4 is born! And the saga continues.
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Originally posted by me at Page #35
I had a kayfun waaaay before Russians came out. So yeah kayfuns are before. Especially that the Russian dude used to work at Svoemesto
Yes. A myth dispelled by Svoesmesto on his FB page over a year ago.
Probably started by Kebo to help sell Russian units as genuine atomizers. It certainly worked in their favour regardless of where it came from.
Well after taking a good long look at the 2 V4's that I have, I'm confident that they are identical and as such they are both genuine. I was hoping that there was some place on the internet I could go and check the serial number for authenticity, but apparently that doesn't exist. One would think that SvoeMesto would somehow make it easier to tell the difference between a clone or counterfeit from an authentic piece.
They say that the sincerest form of flattery is by imitation. So to me copying another company's design is alright, to a point. If their copying process goes as far as copying the name and logo of another company and even going as far a duplicating the packaging without even putting their company name on it anywhere, then that's when it becomes a counterfeit in my opinion. I don't pay with counterfeit money, so why should I buy a counterfeit product?
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They say that the sincerest form of flattery is by imitation. So to me copying another company's design is alright, to a point. If their copying process goes as far as copying the name and logo of another company and even going as far a duplicating the packaging without even putting their company name on it anywhere, then that's when it becomes a counterfeit in my opinion. I don't pay with counterfeit money, so why should I buy a counterfeit product?
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Until VERY recently there was a sure fire way to tell a counterfeit. The prime counterfeiter learned what that was and removed that indication. Now, even an expert eye would find it, at least, difficult to distinguish one from the other.
Moral: Buy only from an authorized reseller.
The one you bought from Provape is the real deal. No way they would sell a clone as a authentic. The one from ebay I would wonder about. I've not seen a authorized SvoeMesto dealer on ebay.
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