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svoemesto.de still has everything in stock. Not good for USA customers, but does suggest there is stock, though perhaps in the wrong places.


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I ordered from them and received a tracking number 30 minutes later.
But they only ship to EU countries....
 

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So all these joints run out of stock in a half a day? Piss poor planning...again.

You have to remember these are, by and large, small businesses.

They stock what they can afford to stock, which isn't the same thing as enough to meet demand at any given time, especially with a high demand item like this.
 

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You have to remember these are, by and large, small businesses.

They stock what they can afford to stock, which isn't the same thing as enough to meet demand at any given time, especially with a high demand item like this.

Not sure it is that. Not sure if it is the retailers or SM who didn't make enough of them. Regardless, a half day's supply on opening day is a major miscalculation. I understand miscalculating with the first Kayfuns. It was an unknown product. But they had to know they were gonna blow the lid off this K4.
 

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Not sure it is that. Not sure if it is the retailers or SM who didn't make enough of them. Regardless, a half day's supply on opening day is a major miscalculation. I understand miscalculating with the first Kayfuns. It was an unknown product. But they had to know they were gonna blow the lid off this K4.

Normally, I'd be inclined to agree with you...but:

Each vendor got between 400-500 of the V4's (or so I've been told). That 6 of 7 major vendors sold out completely within 24hours is a testament to svoemesto. That's probably in the ballpark of 3000 atomizers for a niche market! While I can understand folks being disappointed about not getting one on release day, I would bet Svoë will have a second release very soon! Plus, when/if VapeRev actually gets theirs, that's an untapped avenue.
 

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Not sure it is that. Not sure if it is the retailers or SM who didn't make enough of them. Regardless, a half day's supply on opening day is a major miscalculation. I understand miscalculating with the first Kayfuns. It was an unknown product. But they had to know they were gonna blow the lid off this K4.


At the end of the day you have to realise companies like statQualm and svoemesto, they are high end. Like ferrari or pagani. They are not going to make enough for everyone, if they did that where the exclusivity?
I understand there's a high price point but most likely it's a marketing scheme. It makes the consumer more likely to search everywhere for the product, it's a PITA...but that's how it is. They love making you wait.

I bought my squape r from France, had to Google translate EVERY single thing to English, coz for some reason i couldn't add the items in the basket. So one by one i had to copy and paste to understand. All because i couldn't wait 3 months for Cloud9vaping to get them in stock.

It's making you wait, thus you are all talking about it. May make you go and not buy the item, but the die hard fans will wait. That's what I've learnt in the business field. Exclusivity.
 

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At the end of the day you have to realise companies like statQualm and svoemesto, they are high end. Like ferrari or pagani. They are not going to make enough for everyone, if they did that where the exclusivity?
I understand there's a high price point but most likely it's a marketing scheme. It makes the consumer more likely to search everywhere for the product, it's a PITA...but that's how it is. They love making you wait.

I bought my squape r from France, had to Google translate EVERY single thing to English, coz for some reason i couldn't add the items in the basket. So one by one i had to copy and paste to understand. All because i couldn't wait 3 months for Cloud9vaping to get them in stock.

It's making you wait, thus you are all talking about it. May make you go and not buy the item, but the die hard fans will wait. That's what I've learnt in the business field. Exclusivity.
Glad I got my order in to InTaste, but speaking of the SquapeR (got one in last week)...I am having the most wonderful vape on it right now. It will definitely make the wait for the V4 fairly painless, hah.
 

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Well, I'm not waiting. I don't want one. Not worth the money for me to replace my current KFLs :)

There's another thought in the business world. Don't lose a sale because you didn't have enough stock. All I'm saying is they came nowhere near having enough inventory when it lasts only a half-day. I do believe they lose sales to the perimeter customers. Had they run out in a few days then it would make a little more sense.
 

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Picked mine from Dashvapes today. The reviewers are pretty much bang on with the pros and cons. There is definitely a bit of a learning curve because there are a few moving elements but a few days with it should solve that problem. It vapes as you would expect from a Kayfun. There is a very slight improvement in flavour but otherwise it's a very similar vape to the Kayfun 3.1.
 

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Well, I'm glad I ordered a couple Lemos to tide me over.

I'm playing with this meanwhile to tide me over ;)

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My review here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...630829-apollo-rda-pictorial.html#post14752712
 

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Well, I'm not waiting. I don't want one. Not worth the money for me to replace my current KFLs :)

There's another thought in the business world. Don't lose a sale because you didn't have enough stock. All I'm saying is they came nowhere near having enough inventory when it lasts only a half-day. I do believe they lose sales to the perimeter customers. Had they run out in a few days then it would make a little more sense.


But that's my point, if everyone got one on release day, then no one would be waiting would they for the second batch. It's like this with everything, prime example, take apple. If you don't queue up for weeks before release then you'd have to wait weeks.

This is just my opinion btw, nor do i work for SVM. I just see it this way. Tbh if it was me I'd have this same scheme, only because my product would be sooo exclusive to differentiate from the other companies like let's say aspire(no offence to them, there products are actually awesome) . But that's the marketing world ey.

The squape r is awesome, i cant wait to test it against my new kayfun 4. The squape is just so easy to use and it has taken any build I've thrown at it(single coil for me)
 

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But that's my point, if everyone got one on release day, then no one would be waiting would they for the second batch. It's like this with everything, prime example, take apple. If you don't queue up for weeks before release then you'd have to wait weeks.

I'm really surprised it was still in stock 7 hours later.

The squape r is awesome, i cant wait to test it against my new kayfun 4. The squape is just so easy to use and it has taken any build I've thrown at it(single coil for me)

The only thing i don't like about the SquapeR is that some Eliquid condensates around the air flow control and on the top of my VaperShark rDNA 40. other then that it is a very solid RTA
 

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I'm really surprised it was still in stock 7 hours later.



The only thing i don't like about the SquapeR is that some Eliquid condensates around the air flow control and on the top of my VaperShark rDNA 40. other then that it is a very solid RTA

Exactly! I was so worried when the site crashed that they'd be sold out, but to my amazement it was available.

That happens to me too. It's only a little bit, but it happens when i overfill for some reason, maybe to do with the pressure.
 

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But that's my point, if everyone got one on release day, then no one would be waiting would they for the second batch. It's like this with everything, prime example, take apple. If you don't queue up for weeks before release then you'd have to wait weeks.

This is just my opinion btw, nor do i work for SVM. I just see it this way. Tbh if it was me I'd have this same scheme, only because my product would be sooo exclusive to differentiate from the other companies like let's say aspire(no offence to them, there products are actually awesome) . But that's the marketing world ey.

The squape r is awesome, i cant wait to test it against my new kayfun 4. The squape is just so easy to use and it has taken any build I've thrown at it(single coil for me)
Yeah, I'm eager to compare the K4 to the SquapeR too. I've built on it 6-7 times in the last week or so and the ease of build is crazy (wide deck is just prefect for me). I LOVE the ability to rebuild without emptying, one reason why I was definitely ordering the K4 today too.

Just wish I could get the 4S kit but those things were the first to go it seemed like.

Totally agree too, constraining supply to increase demand is nothing new...or just releasing supply as it comes off the production line instead of holding it up and flooding the market. It's just the way things work.
 

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Yeah, I'm eager to compare the K4 to the SquapeR too. I've built on it 6-7 times in the last week or so and the ease of build is crazy (wide deck is just prefect for me). I LOVE the ability to rebuild without emptying, one reason why I was definitely ordering the K4 today too.

Just wish I could get the 4S kit but those things were the first to go it seemed like.

Totally agree too, constraining supply to increase demand is nothing new...or just releasing supply as it comes off the production line instead of holding it up and flooding the market. It's just the way things work.

So far the squape is the best tasting atty out there hands down. I agree it's easy to recoil etc as i tinker with mine a lot, glad the kayfun has that. But think changing the air hole size shud have been easier as i change mine often depending where i am (work etc don't want clouds of smoke at work lol)

People want things they can't buy straight away, it's a much more appealing as they think hmm such a long waiting list. I waited 8months for golden Greek ggts and ithaka, all because they were sold out in mins when they were on for sale. I'm glad I got one now as I'm part of the elite crew that got them, the wait was long but deffinately worth it for that craftsmanship.
 
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