SXK Billet box...

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The xeta is better all round and fairly foolproof IMO...
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Of the ones I've tried, which is quite a few actually, the Xeta is my overall favorite performer and as long you're aware of that post, the easiest to work with too.

Better to be a little too tight with the wicking than a little too loose though. It CAN gurgle if you leave spaces around the wicking ports in the cap. I think I said before, imho, they should have made the tops of the ports round instead of squared off like that.
 

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Just do be aware of that positive post. It does not HAVE to break. I've had both of mine for months with a few builds in each and have not had any problems.

Like I said in a previous post. Just snug it up until the wire doesn't move on the outside of the clamp when straightening out the coil. This should be no problem with a lightweight mtl coil especially.

The one I broke I had done a stack of builds on all with fairly fine wire, 28-30g, I "thought" I was fairly careful with it, I was aware of the issues with the genuine version... I can be a bit heavy handed at times and using the allen/hex key it's fairly easy to go overboard due to the leverage it provides... I've been thinking next time I rebuild I might switch to the included straight slot screws so I cant over-tighten..

There's so little metal to the sides of the hole through the positive post it's no surprise they're fragile, I understand why it is like that, if they made the post any heftier you wouldn't be able to fit a 3mm coil in there..

Better to be a little too tight with the wicking than a little too loose though. It CAN gurgle if you leave spaces around the wicking ports in the cap. I think I said before, imho, they should have made the tops of the ports round instead of squared off like that.

When I first built the xeta I used the tall screws to partly block off the wick ports but this seemed to cause gurgles and flooding after refilling, it was hard to get the cotton fluffed all around the screw to stop the juice flooding into the chamber when the boro was opened, I ended up going back to the short screws because it was easier to get the cotton to fill/seal the port without a screw poking up into the area... This is also why I've stuck with 3mm coils so I can get as much cotton as possible in there...
 

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Maybe worth mentioning, On the Xeta I was thinking that perhaps where the wire is trapped under the clamp may make a difference as to how easily in can break. The greater the distance the wire is from the screw hole will probably cause it to break more readily.
 

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I know if you ask SXK nicely, they will generally sell you parts. Another option is Fasttech sells all kinds of screws. They probably have some that would fit nicely.
How do you get in touch with them? I need a fire actuator switch. The one that sits below the fire button.
 

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How do you get in touch with them? I need a fire actuator switch. The one that sits below the fire button.

I thought many were contacting them on Facebook. They might have an email listed, I'll check. Someone else was looking for those switches and found a source for them and posted it here somewhere. Maybe someone or myself will find it.

EDIT: Oh it was our own gsmit1 who contacted them and ask for a switch.

SXK Billet box...
 

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FLICK found some fire button switches on eBay for a buck with free shipping.
SXK Billet box...

I bought a 4-pack of those switches to have on hand for if/when my SXK button dies, they "look" like they'd be usable... I haven't had my box apart since then so I haven't checked to see if they'll actually fit and work...

(pulling it apart and bending the other switch out of the way to experiment when it's not needed is probably just asking for trouble, it would annoy me to break a wire or such and have to do a repair job on something that wasn't broken to start with, lol)

Edit: there were dozens of sellers with those switches on ebay before, now there's basically none, this appears to be the cheapest on US ebay:
1 pcs Mini Innovative Single Key Membrane Switch Keyboard MCU Extended Keypad | eBay
I only paid $3.29aud for 4 delivered, about $2.30usd...
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There's a good chance they'll be back cheap again once covid is sorted and china "really" goes back to work.. I think the main issue at the moment is no cheap shipping due to the lack of planes flying, most ebay stores seem to have shut down for now...

I also noticed these similar ones that may be usable:
Membrane switch keypad 1 key matrix membrane switch keyboard board for ardN_US | eBay
(or just search "membrane switch")
 
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@gsmit1 and me both got some like that one from Ft.I haven't had a need to try them,but he did,and if i remember right,i believe he said that type was too thick.
Those actually fit, but my problem has been trying to find a way to connect the wires. ANY heat will melt that micro thin membrane the contacts are in.

There was a different model before that that was physically too thick for the mounting space.

I ordered an authentic switch from BBV thinking it would be like this:
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Instead I got this:
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A complete waste of 25 bucks. I have no way of soldering a connection to that.

Despite my incessant efforts, SXK does not answer requests for parts anymore :(
 

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That one from BBV looks like it should be able to hold up to soldering a couple wires on,i mean no matter how they connect it,whether with wires or directly to the board,it would still have to be soldered i would think.
The metal contacts themselves, INCLUDING the plastic insulator on the other side, are 13 one hundredths of a millimeter thick.

Obviously somebody or some process can do it, but a guy with a soldering iron, or at least THIS guy and his soldering iron cannot. I needed one like the SXK, with the wires already attached to the switch.

By the time I'm done with this I almost could have just bought another one. I got this one free. The shipping is actually like 15 bucks from Canada. I looked into the one from the Vaporist a few months ago.

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the well meaning tips, but this is frustrating the livin daylights outta me.
 

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Those actually fit, but my problem has been trying to find a way to connect the wires. ANY heat will melt that micro thin membrane the contacts are in.

There was a different model before that that was physically too thick for the mounting space.

I ordered an authentic switch from BBV thinking it would be like this:
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Instead I got this:
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A complete waste of 25 bucks. I have no way of soldering a connection to that.

Despite my incessant efforts, SXK does not answer requests for parts anymore :(

It is soldered to the DNA60 board in the authentic. Here is a pic of the connection in a 2 week old RNB with the new style switch. I was able to lift the board up a bit to help see the connection. Notice that the switch is glued down. I'm seeing clear silicone in a number of areas in the new authentic. Also notice the indentation/circle mark on the switch face. That is from a poorly designed aftermarket button. In this case it was a JMK stainless that was only used for a day.

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It is soldered to the DNA60 board in the authentic. Here is a pic of the connection in a 2 week old RNB with the new style switch. I was able to lift the board up a bit to help see the connection. Notice that the switch is glued down. I'm seeing clear silicone in a number of areas in the new authentic. Also notice the indentation/circle mark on the switch face. That is from a poorly designed aftermarket button. In this case it was a JMK stainless that was only used for a day.

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The metal contacts themselves, INCLUDING the plastic insulator on the other side, are 13 one hundredths of a millimeter thick.

Obviously somebody or some process can do it, but a guy with a soldering iron, or at least THIS guy and his soldering iron cannot. I needed one like the SXK, with the wires already attached to the switch.

By the time I'm done with this I almost could have just bought another one. I got this one free. The shipping is actually like 15 bucks from Canada. I looked into the one from the Vaporist a few months ago.

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the well meaning tips, but this is frustrating the livin daylights outta me.

It seems there good reason for this.
Take a time out or you'll just frustrate yourself more with this.
If you can't get it to work yourself isn't there someone that might be able to do the soldering for you?
 

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I have an issue and I hope that someone can advise me.
I got an SXK BB. Didn't get it new so I don't have manuals etc. For it. The screen went blank but the mod still works. I have tried button configurations to switch it on ,but nothing worked so far.
Is there maybe someone with experience with this that can give me info on how to switch it on?
 

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I have an issue and I hope that someone can advise me.
I got an SXK BB. Didn't get it new so I don't have manuals etc. For it. The screen went blank but the mod still works. I have tried button configurations to switch it on ,but nothing worked so far.
Is there maybe someone with experience with this that can give me info on how to switch it on?

Do you know whether yours has the Evolv board or the SXK board? If you don't know someone here might know how to tell the difference.

FYI. I just got a new one and it didn't have a manual either.
 

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Also notice the indentation/circle mark on the switch face. That is from a poorly designed aftermarket button. In this case it was a JMK stainless that was only used for a day.
I use a tiny piece of electrical tape on the little nub inside the button to avoid that.

I appreciate you taking the time to take your authentic apart and post the pic for me :)
 
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