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I´m cool with that. But tell us if that really is a 3D printed tank (I don´t think so, looks too perfect)? If so, that´s some really impressive result.
I'm not using any 3D print for this job sir. Its from the cnc lathe machine + laser marking. Plus sanding it and polished it after.
 

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Just got my second SXK.
Question: does anyone else have a significant gap between their mod & bottom of atty? The screw seems to protrude more than my other atty's, and it's exactly the same on both of my doggies. I get the gap on my sbody Macro worst, but also on my Wismec Sinuous P80. I removed the 510 screw to see if there'd be an issue with tightening it harder, and it appears there's a ring on the center post the prevents the bottom (underneath) of the 510 screw head from going any deeper.
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Just got my second SXK.
Question: does anyone else have a significant gap between their mod & bottom of atty? The screw seems to protrude more than my other atty's, and it's exactly the same on both of my doggies. I get the gap on my SBody Macro worst, but also on my Wismec Sinuous P80. I removed the 510 screw to see if there'd be an issue with tightening it harder, and it appears there's a ring on the center post the prevents the bottom (underneath) of the 510 screw head from going any deeper.
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I use these on all my doggies.Saves the mod top and saves over tightening the 510,especially on a tank like the Doggie that has a quite long 510 pin.

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Yesterday I re-wicked four or five times and didn't make any progress with the popping. It seems fine for the first 10 puffs or so, then I get that big POP every time I use it after it sits for a little. I was using a 2mm (spaced) coil and I tried to wick as tight as I could without mangling it. I tried with rayon a couple times. I also tried stretching out the cotton a bit then rolling it back up.

The youtube videos I watched just look like the typical "snug" wicking. It doesn't seem like they are doing anything special or extra to it. Is there anything else that I could be doing that might cause it? I don't have this issue with my RDA, it's only happened with the Ares and now the Doggy.
 
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Try a Spaced coil. Does it still pop? If not it might not be the wicking but rather the coil. Did you check your contact coil doesn't have Hotspots? Try scratching the surface gently with some pliers until a dry burn shows an evenly spread glow starting in the middle of the coil
Good luck,
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Try a Spaced coil. Does it still pop? If not it might not be the wicking but rather the coil. Did you check your contact coil doesn't have Hotspots? Try scratching the surface gently with some pliers until a dry burn shows an evenly spread glow starting in the middle of the coil
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They've all been spaced coils. Either 28g kanthal or 28g SS316L.

I'm using 50/50 juice too but I can't imagine that would be a problem for it.
 
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Yesterday I re-wicked four or five times and didn't make any progress with the popping. It seems fine for the first 10 puffs or so, then I get that big POP every time I use it after it sits for a little. I was using a 2mm (spaced) coil and I tried to wick as tight as I could without mangling it. I tried with rayon a couple times. I also tried stretching out the cotton a bit then rolling it back up.

The youtube videos I watched just look like the typical "snug" wicking. It doesn't seem like they are doing anything special or extra to it. Is there anything else that I could be doing that might cause it? I don't have this issue with my RDA, it's only happened with the Ares and now the Doggy.
Actually, I never had any popping until I switched to spaced coils. When I put in enough wick, it didn't happen any more. Odd that it only happens in those 2 attys....
It usually means there are "pockets" of juice between the coil & wick - so that when it's heated, it kind of makes a mini-explosion. So based on what you said about forcing in more wick, that's really strange. Maybe try a contact coil? And how many wraps & what ohms/wattage are you using?

That may help someone give you better info, but I'm kind of stumped. You might also post a pick of the build.
 
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SXK Doggy Style, feedback from an old guy

I finnaly got my sxk doggy style from fasttech, had to try it after all the hype here and other places. I think it is/could be a wonderful MTL RTA for most people but not for older people, with limited eye sight, arthritus, etc. I spent a good hour attempting to build a coil and install it into the extrememly small deck, compared TO SIREN2, AND SXK PRIME. I also found the bottom fill to be a real pain in the ....! I also found , to me it vapes hot no matter what build I put it. I used 28awg, 2.5 mm id, 7 wraps, kanthal. It is just to much hassle for an old timer. My doggy has been permenently placed in the dog house. I will stick with my sxk prime and siren 2, and occasional nautilus 2. This is my opinion only, so to those that love thier doggy, throw him/her a bone and say good doggy!!
 

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I only use slightly spaced coils with 50/50 juice and have never had a single pop in well over a year of using the Doggystyle. What Gauge wire, ohms and power are you using? I only do TC with a 2mm id coil.

I've been trying to copy what I've seen in this thread.

28g kanthal, 2mm, 7 wraps, ~1.2 ohms, 10-13w
28g S316L, 2mm, 7 wraps, ~0.58 ohm, 10-17w
28g S316L, 2mm, 7 wraps, ~0.58 ohm, 10w + 410° TC

I just went up to a 2.5mm coil today with the 28g SS316L (~0.7 ohms) and wicked it very tight again. I did TC at first and it wasn't giving me that big pop but the flavor wasn't good at all. Since you said you only use TC with 2mm coils I'll try using VW mode with it.

I have a couple pictures that I took yesterday but my phone's camera isn't that great. I forget which wire this was.

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I am not sure about the coil height position either. I have no idea if that would affect anything.

I'm still somewhat inexperienced with rebuildables too. I've gotten more comfortable making coils but wicking just doesn't come naturally for me, because it's a "feel" type of thing.
 
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I've been trying to copy what I've seen in this thread.

28g kanthal, 2mm, 7 wraps, ~1.2 ohms, 10-13w
28g S316L, 2mm, 7 wraps, ~0.58 ohm, 10-17w
28g S316L, 2mm, 7 wraps, ~0.58 ohm, 10w + 410° TC

I just went up to a 2.5mm coil today with the 28g SS316L and wicked it very tight again. I tried TC at first and it wasn't giving me that big pop but the flavor wasn't good at all. Reading what you said about only using TC with 2mm I might try it in VW mode, but not sure if that will help at all.

I have a couple pictures that I took yesterday but my phone's camera isn't that great. I forget which wire this was.

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I am not sure about the coil height position either. I have no idea if that would affect anything.
A strange one is this for sure. Your coil looks fine,how long are you cutting the wick? I cut mine right off at the edge of the deck so when i tuck it in the channels it just touches the bottom of deck. Hard to tell from photos but are you tucking into the channels especially at the bottom? It looks like you are not. Look at 7 mins on in this video. Also try say 18 watts at 410 F in temperature control. It will cut off at temperature anyway but it will help with ramp up.
 

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A strange one is this for sure. Your coil looks fine,how long are you cutting the wick? I cut mine right off at the edge of the deck so when i tuck it in the channels it just touches the bottom of deck. Hard to tell from photos but are you tucking into the channels especially at the bottom? It looks like you are not. Look at 7 mins on in this video. Also try say 18 watts at 410 F in temperature control. It will cut off at temperature anyway but it will help with ramp up.


I was trying to leave the wicks long enough to just touch the bottom, or maybe fold under a little at most, since that's what I saw in the videos.

I was experimenting with the wicks in the channels too. At first I was wetting the cotton then pushing it into the channels as much as I could. Then I started wondering if that might have been causing the issue somehow, so I tried to guide them in a little bit but leave the cotton more full/natural instead of mashing it. Those pictures were from that try.

I just got back and tried out the 2.5mm coil with 15 watts. It had been sitting for about 45 minutes and when I took the first drag I got that big pop again. There is no way I can wick the cotton tighter than it is now. I suspect that's why I'm getting less flavor this time around too.

It's like the juice just pools up in the cotton inside the coil when it rests. I'm just not experienced enough with this to understand what's going wrong though.
 

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At least I'm not alone anymore. LOL, I do feel sympathy, my trails and travels with the doggy were not good. I'm a glutton for punishment though, I did order another and the husband even made me a "special" screwdriver for it (my issue, well, there were others) but those dang flat head screws and my fine motor tremor, well, my screwdriver just skittered off the deck usually onto one of my limbs, somehow, I did get gouged once.

I had to order a new doggy (my deck was possessed, and left it's place in the box) and I've been still too afraid to approach it, it needs to be the right "day" and possibly the planets need to orbit some special fashion.

So congrats, though, you have already gotten WAY further than me with it. LOL.

Anna
 

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I also got popping in the Innokin ares anytime I used a spaced coil.

I was apprehensive about trying a spaced coil in the doggy for that reason, because these are the only 2 RTAs I have used.

However, I put a 2mm ID, 28 kanthal, 6 wrap spaced, @1ohm in the doggy last night. I’m not getting any popping at all, it’s quite pleasant.

I don’t think I did anything unique, wicked like I normally do, and vaping it at 15w.
 

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I was trying to leave the wicks long enough to just touch the bottom, or maybe fold under a little at most, since that's what I saw in the videos.

I was experimenting with the wicks in the channels too. At first I was wetting the cotton then pushing it into the channels as much as I could. Then I started wondering if that might have been causing the issue somehow, so I tried to guide them in a little bit but leave the cotton more full/natural instead of mashing it. Those pictures were from that try.

I just got back and tried out the 2.5mm coil with 15 watts. It had been sitting for about 45 minutes and when I took the first drag I got that big pop again. There is no way I can wick the cotton tighter than it is now. I suspect that's why I'm getting less flavor this time around too.

It's like the juice just pools up in the cotton inside the coil when it rests. I'm just not experienced enough with this to understand what's going wrong though.
I really am stumped now, you do not need to go really tight just so you get a bit of resistance when pulling through. I honestly do not think you can screw wicking up in a Doggie, i have not managed it yet. Only other things i can think of is wire quality or juice quality. Where do you get your wire and what juice? Pg/vg ratio.
 
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