Syringe or weight, best way to measure?

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Which is the best way to measure your liquids when making juice? By best I guess I mean most accurate for repeatability.

Either using a Syringe or using a Scale can be Very Accurate. And Many Times, this Accuracy can Exceed what the Average person can Taste.

So when the Level of Accuracy is Achieved (or Exceeded!), I start to look at which Method requires Less things to buy. And Less things to Wash/Dry.

There Isn't much to Wash when you Mix with a Scale. So that is what I use.
 

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From all that I have read, using a scale is the most accurate and convenient way to mix. When I began I did everything by the book. I still love to read juice recipes and see what others are doing. I love to read about techniques and mixing tips. But must admit I have grown to appreciate my sloth-like mixing style that I use for my daily juices. And I now use only a glass graduated cylinder when I am mixing. Is it accurate? No. Do I care? No.

Good luck to you and happy mixing.
 

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Assumption: you have several recipes that you have made and love!

If you have been mixing with syringes and are happy with the result, I would say keep with it.
Switching to using a scale and being more accurate, may possibly change the recipe, because you are no longer using your calibrated eye balls.

The Pursuit of Higher and Higher Levels of Accuracy should be applauded. And the Ability to Measure at Lower and Lower Levels is Seldom a Bad Thing.

But one must Ask Themselves... "At what Level of Accuracy do I Exceed the Ability to Taste the Difference in an e-Liquid?". Because Once one reaches that Point, obtaining Higher Levels of Accuracy is Not Needed.

When I make Spaghetti Sauce, do I get out my Jewelry Loup and count Individual Grains of Salt? Can I tell the Difference between 9,457 Grains of Salt vs. 9458?

Or when I use that Bent Teaspoon that has been handed down from my Grandmother vs that Brand New on I got from Sonoma Williams?

More Accuracy is Great. But is it Always Needed?
 

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Out of curiosity, what scales are you guys using/recommend?

I had to return my scale because it was not accurate enough, only full grams/ml. I ordered another that does 0.01 measurements. Should it be enough? Can't seem to find many 0.001 scales that go over 20g capacity.

Unless you are Making Very Small batches, maybe 5ml or less, I think a +/- .01g scale that is Repeatable should work fine for you.

BTW - If the Bottle you want to mix in weighs 20g or more, a +/- .001g scale with a 20g capacity Isn't going to work very well for you.

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I wouldn't want a scale that does milligrams (0.001 g) to go over 20-25 grams it wouldn't be accurate.

Neither weight nor volume are more accurate if you have the correct tools and use them correctly. A 5 ml graduated cylinder is accurate as can be. So is a properly calibrated scale. In a real chemistry lab you would use both.

If you really want to get accurate, get a thermometer and hydrometer and figure out the specific gravity of each of your liquids at a given temperature.
 

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There both very accurate methods and it all boils down to what is comfortable for you. I myself prefer syringes just because it's what I started with and it works for me. I don't see a need to switch right now. Even though the cost to switch over is some what low money is tight right now but in the future who knows..
 

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I purchased an scale to try it, not because i am so concerned about accuracy but because I am having some troubles reading small syringes and small amounts of flavors, and i dislike the "drops" method. Also, if it works for me it will be much less messy and virtually just 1 container to clean afterwards. It should be here this week, so i will post my impressions on it.
 

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I purchased an scale to try it, not because i am so concerned about accuracy but because I am having some troubles reading small syringes and small amounts of flavors, and i dislike the "drops" method. Also, if it works for me it will be much less messy and virtually just 1 container to clean afterwards. It should be here this week, so i will post my impressions on it.

I mix directly into the bottle, so there's not even one container to clean.:D
 

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AWS LB-501 Precision Bench Counting Scale 500g x 0.01g - Gorilla Scales - $47.95

This is the scale I use and have found it to be perfect for my mixing needs. The only thing you have to watch out for is it will cut off after a period of no activity. I think the cut off time is after a minute or so. If I get delayed while mixing I just tap the scale every so often so it sees some activity and does not cut off. I place a bottle on the scale and hit "tare". Then add my nic, then "tare", them add each flavor and "tare" after each. Then my VG.
I only use drippers so I add no PG.
I have my nic in a 60ml glass bottle with a droper, my flavors in 30ml plastic drip tip bottles and my VG in a 120ml bottle with a Yorker cap. With every thing lined up, I do a mix in a couple of minutes max. This works very good for me and I have no items to clean after mixing.
 
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