Taifun GT Discusion!

[justdoeit]

Taifun GT users - I have this (clone) and it's super finicky adjustable connector onto my Zmax V3. ie, I set the ZMAX to display resistance for a new build. I attach the TGT, screw it down and test fire to see "Low Load", unscrew and test fire and see "9.9ohms".

I then make the adjustable pin go further up into the TGT. re-screw onto Zmax all the way and now reads "9.9ohms" - ie, not making contact

So now I know pin needs to be in between these 2 positions. So I start with minor corrections to the pin until it eventually reads the resistance.

This happen to anyone else?

In short, Im saying the adjustable pin can only be in 1 specific position for it to fire on my Zmax. Too much up (inside the TGT) and it wont register anything (shows 9.9ohms) or it's too low and reads "LOW LOAD" because it goes under the 1.2ohm or whatever limit of the ZMAX.

Any fixes?

 

[KurrptSenate]

Sorry man. I've only tried my TGT clone on my provari and haven't ran into any similar issues.

I could try adjusting that pin and see if it makes any difference.

Might benefit for disassembling that screw + spring and see if something is afoot.

 

[eLCruz]

Taifun GT users - I have this (clone) and it's super finicky adjustable connector onto my Zmax V3. ie, I set the ZMAX to display resistance for a new build. I attach the TGT, screw it down and test fire to see "Low Load", unscrew and test fire and see "9.9ohms".

I then make the adjustable pin go further up into the TGT. re-screw onto Zmax all the way and now reads "9.9ohms" - ie, not making contact

So now I know pin needs to be in between these 2 positions. So I start with minor corrections to the pin until it eventually reads the resistance.

This happen to anyone else?

In short, Im saying the adjustable pin can only be in 1 specific position for it to fire on my Zmax. Too much up (inside the TGT) and it wont register anything (shows 9.9ohms) or it's too low and reads "LOW LOAD" because it goes under the 1.2ohm or whatever limit of the ZMAX.

Any fixes?

Does your clone have a spring under the 510 +screw. Mine does and I took it out and stretched it a bit. Didn't have your prob, but may help. good luck!

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[justdoeit]

haha, I suggest DON'T do that

I thought taking it apart may help, but almost couldn't get one of the posts back in after I had it and the bottom pin out. There's some connector of some kind inside that needs to line up just right. I was suprised I actually got it back together.

 

[justdoeit]

Yes, there's a spring. I can take the connector and spring out, it's just finicky one where it needs to go when connecting to the battery.

and the difference between 9.9ohm -> working -> Low Load is less than 1 turn of the screw.

It's not a big deal, as once it's set, it works, I just don't get why it's such a problem.

TIA

 

[eLCruz]

haha, I suggest DON'T do that

I thought taking it apart may help, but almost couldn't get one of the posts back in after I had it and the bottom pin out. There's some connector of some kind inside that needs to line up just right. I was suprised I actually got it back together.

Yeah, thats a brass disk that carries the + to the post. You can take out the post screw OR the + pin screw but not BOTH at the same time, or you'll have a hella time getting them back in. One OR the other, but not BOTH at the same time! Did that myself… :banghead:

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[bapgood]

and the difference between 9.9ohm -> working -> Low Load is less than 1 turn of the screw.

It's not a big deal, as once it's set, it works, I just don't get why it's such a problem.

My guess would be the issue might actually be the zmax

9.9Ω = TGT screw not touching the center pin in the zmax

working = TGT screw touching the center pin in the zmax just right

low load = TGT screw pushing down the center pin in the zmax and its shorting somewhere

 

[bapgood]

haha, I suggest DON'T do that

I thought taking it apart may help, but almost couldn't get one of the posts back in after I had it and the bottom pin out. There's some connector of some kind inside that needs to line up just right. I was suprised I actually got it back together.

Yeah, thats a brass disk that carries the + to the post. You can take out the post screw OR the + pin screw but not BOTH at the same time, or you'll have a hella time getting them back in. One OR the other, but not BOTH at the same time! Did that myself… :banghead:

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My suggestion to anyone who does take out both the 510 screw and the correlating coil post screw.....Is to start the 510 screw first, its actually pretty easy to get it started and once you do, just spin it until the coil post hole lines up and then start it.

 

[ZeroOhm]

I feel so bad for you folks with first run TGT clones (brass decks), what a bummer. I'm so glad I waited, I could never afford the authentic. To the designer(s), if you come around Austin for the Grand Prix race track, SXSW, or ACL, (a few) drinks are on me!

I don't know about other wicking options, but I used organic cotton ball for wick and a 2mm ID "micro"ish coil. 28g, (wraps?, meh) 1.2 ohm running at 4 volts. Fantastmagoric. If there's a downside to the TGT, I haven't found it yet. More sympathy goes out to those that vape tank cracker juices.

IMO, the SQuape is very similar the TGT in many ways though, the same coil and wick give me the same vape. One is much heavier in weight though quicker/easier to build and has more capacity (SQuape), the other is has many more parts but is much lighter and generally looks better (YMMV). To both of these, the kayfun styles are over engineered to a fault. This game is moving fast, the next king has some big shoes to fill.

I only started vaping in Oct last year and buying from FT in Nov its been tough going my last 3 orders (only made 4 orders) because of consensus and funds KF 3.1 brass and broken parts, TF GT plated brass, KFL/91 looks plated (but i sanded it and seems not) rusting screws. Buying clones is tough on a vapers sanity especially after quitting smoking but it goes with the dragon, the SS GT tank is nice it gives me some hope the replacement deck will be SS as mine was sent late. I wont be buying any fake/forged/clones for a while it becomes a false economy its been almost 8 weeks now since ordering the TF GT clone i still can't really use. It took 5 orders to get a KFL starting 1st in Nov. Just under 2 months i tried i really did, and a real one is cheap in so many ways.

Thanks for the build tips look forward hopefully to vape the GT.


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[ZeroOhm]

I got my replacement base yesterday from FT and it is the stainless. It shipped 1/2/14 if that helps anyone.

Ordered one of the stainless tanks but havent tried it yet as someone said they do not fit. I will try it tonight.

Are you in the US by any chance? Mine was shipped 25 Dec no updated tracking I expect it will be 10-11 weeks from my initial order before I will know if i got a good deck .... i am going to troll the FT forums to take out my rage.

My SS Tank fits fine but then again it's been reported the replacement SS deck doesn't fit the SS tank sold by FT.

 

[zipflint]

So now that everyone has had their Taifun GT/clones for a while, and since there are now so many other, similar devices like the Aqua, Squape, Fogger, etc..... How do you all think they compare to each other?

Reason I ask is, I want more, but I like variety and I like tinkering with new devices. But my budget just got even more tight, and I can't decide if I want to "risk" any cash on a different atty, or just buy another Taifun GT clone. I'm eyeballing the Kayfun clones (I will almost certainly have to go with the cheapest, non-garbage copy, which would be the Rocket if it weren't so ugly) as well as the aforementioned Squape and Aqua. Aren't they all basically the same? Aside from multiple coil options and cosmetics/size differences, that is.

 

[Scope666]

So now that everyone has had their Taifun GT/clones for a while, and since there are now so many other, similar devices like the Aqua, Squape, Fogger, etc..... How do you all think they compare to each other?

Reason I ask is, I want more, but I like variety and I like tinkering with new devices. But my budget just got even more tight, and I can't decide if I want to "risk" any cash on a different atty, or just buy another Taifun GT clone. I'm eyeballing the Kayfun clones (I will almost certainly have to go with the cheapest, non-garbage copy, which would be the Rocket if it weren't so ugly) as well as the aforementioned Squape and Aqua. Aren't they all basically the same? Aside from multiple coil options and cosmetics/size differences, that is.

I like mine, it vapes very well. My only gripe is the quality of the threads on the plastic tank section... they suck. Every time I go to refill, I have to fight with it to get it to thread the right way, and not cross thread. I'm thinking about ordering the metal tank section to solve this issue.

On the other hand, it's very similar to the Fogger, which has a glass tank instead of plastic, and adjustable airflow control. They both vape in a very similar way since they wick / feed the same way.

Also I should add, both designs are somewhat finicky in that you need to have just the right amount of wick in the channels. Too little and you'll get flooding, too much and you'll get dry hits. Both require some "practice" to get it right every time.

 

[bapgood]

Zip.....I say go for another TGT....maybe it's just that I flipping love the things....but I have kayfuns, aqua, flash-e, foggers, genesis, and others....and nothing touches the TGT for me. I have three TGT's and two go everywhere with me and the third is mostly used for experimenting.

 

[bapgood]

don't rub it in! i'm doing due diligence in the meanwhile this keeps me going

Tibs I want to know why the TGT isn't your go to atty yet?

 

[bapgood]

for bap trim ring on provari with taifun gt (tank turned upside down as per mike)

I like mine, it vapes very well. My only gripe is the quality of the threads on the plastic tank section... they suck. Every time I go to refill, I have to fight with it to get it to thread the right way, and not cross thread. I'm thinking about ordering the metal tank section to solve this issue.

On the other hand, it's very similar to the Fogger, which has a glass tank instead of plastic, and adjustable airflow control. They both vape in a very similar way since they wick / feed the same way.

Also I should add, both designs are somewhat finicky in that you need to have just the right amount of wick in the channels. Too little and you'll get flooding, too much and you'll get dry hits. Both require some "practice" to get it right every time.

Scope try what Tibs showed earlier and flip the tank so your not fighting the plastic threads. The authentic Taifun plastic tanks thread on like butter, I like the full plastic anyway so I just replaced my FT half tank with authentic full plastic tanks.

 

[Schnarph]

My FT TGT has a SS deck and the FT SS tank fits fine, although only one way unlike the half plastic tank. Mine shipped on Dec 19th via SG post and arrived 3 days ago. My FT KFL also has a SS deck. My advice on ordering new atty's from FT, wait until there are a few reviews. I waited and skipped all this brass deck hullabaloo.

Between the KFL, TGT, and SQuape, I'd say the SQuape and TGT are very similar, both outshining the KFL by enough to notice. There are also the looks to consider if you care about that sort of thing. The SQuape is also the heaviest tank I've ever held, when filled with 5ml I can't even tell the difference. The bonus of the SQuape is very few parts, more capacity, deep threads, and easy to use post screws. You can't do any fancy builds with it though. I still like the KFL just fine, and being 22mm is good for many mods.

It may seem like a lot of money for nothing, but the only way to know what "you" like is to try all of them that you can. Depending on the sources, you might be able to get all the new RTA clones for less than one authentic. So, there's that...

 

[ZeroOhm]

The more I read the more I realise how much variation there is in clone manufacture but given there cost it goes with the territory, the threading on my FT TGT plastic tank is almost perfect, there isn't much I don't like about the clone i'm just playing the waiting game I only did 2 builds and loved it. To think you could get 10 clones for the price of a bona fide one vape money well spent. Been impressed with the KFL/91 clone too but buying clones is like rolling a dice.

I would rather buy clones and try them out than spend money on Chinese APV's as a new vaper i have been bitten too many times there mostly junk with low cost parts you can't fix easily.

Attack of the clones!

 

[Vapguy]

I want a few more RBA's as well but I don't know where to go. I results I get from the GT (Hcigar version) is so good I know I'd be OK with just picking up another but I also wouldn't mind trying something new so long as it was as good. Thoughhts?

 

[tiburonfirst]

Tibs I want to know why the TGT isn't your go to atty yet?

because i'm still fiddling and waiting for the all ss deck which should finally be at my post office today! usps insisted it had to make a stop-over in oshkosh on its way from la to virginia!

 

[Thrasher]

Zip.....I say go for another TGT....maybe it's just that I flipping love the things....but I have kayfuns, aqua, flash-e, foggers, genesis, and others....and nothing touches the TGT for me. I have three TGT's and two go everywhere with me and the third is mostly used for experimenting.

im with this guy - i have also tried most of the bottom fed rba's out lately and prefer the GT for the quality of vape. my kayfun sits sad and lonely lol

as well as a couple other things that stick for me
the fogger bothers me as it may become difficult to obtain replacement glass whenever said company moves on and no one cares about making aftermarket for it anymore.

the squape design is so simple to set up it almost hurts. but being the atty deck is pressfit sealed by the chimney i I am concerned with long term wear on the parts as well as the coating.

in any case both are great attys and work well.

clones are great but as with all originals - parts never seem to be an issue.
with that said i see very little difference between the real GT and the clone I received and if you didnt know what to look at you will never tell.