Tank-O-Matic Liquinator v4.1

[SeanFromIthaca]

things I like about the liquinator:

1. like the MAP tank, I no longer have to drip constantly, meaning I can concentrate on whatever else I'm doing more
2. unlike dripping, and the MAP tank, I no longer have to get a sour hit every now and then that lets me know that I either have to drip more, or tilt the PV to get more juice to the atty, respectively
3. much simpler to fill or assemble/disassemble than the MAP tank

things I don't like as much about the liquinator (and bear in mind, I haven't really broken in my first carto yet):

1. the hit you get off the 510 cartos seems harsher and less warm than the hit you get off the ce2s in the MAP tank
2. flavor not quite as pronounced as the hit you get off the ce2s at the same voltages, but the difference is small
3. the 'tendrils' in the MAP tank seem to dry out faster/better than a carto, so you can switch juices better on the MAP tank

if you have a variable voltage device, just bumping down the voltage helps with the harshness of the hit, but that also means you get less flavor

hopefully after I break in this carto the harshness will die down a bit, because if I can bump the voltage back up the flavor will return and be very much comparable to the MAP tank (delicious), but without all of the tipping I've found I have to do with the MAP tank to consistently get a warm, sweet flavorful hit

bottom line for me is, the liquinator is hassle-free -- if you just want to fill and forget, then I'd definitely say that the liquinator is EXACTLY what you need

as the guy in the video says, 'Good stuff'

 

[Wylie]

Thanks for the initial impressions. I can't exactly compare it to a MAP tank, since I've never used one. But I have used a CE2 tank and for the most part my experience is the same. The harshness of the hit, however, seems to be related to the Boge cartomizer. In other words, it's the same experience I get from even a tankless Boge. If you have another cartomizer you prefer, try slotting one and seeing if that works for you.

 

[tigerlily]

I just received my liquinator yesterday. Right now I'm really enjoying it, but I made a couple of noobie blunders at first which I thought I'd mention here. Filling the tank was easy enough, but from watching the video I knew to add a few drops of juice to the top of the carto. So I attempted to take the drip tip off while holding on to the tank. Well, you can probably guess what happened. The entire carto pulled up along with the drip tip causing juice to come pouring out of the bottom. Yikes!

After cleaning up the mess, I made a second attempt at removing the drip tip. This time I was careful to hold on to the bottom of the carto so it wouldn't slide up. I added 4-5 drops to the top of the carto and let it sit for a few minutes before attempting to vape with it. When I tried it for the first time I was rewarded with the most awful burned taste ever! The carto was just not absorbing the liquid well enough to keep the atty wet. I'm afraid that first carto was completely ruined. I tried adding more juice directly to the carto and letting it sit longer, but I could not get rid of the burned taste.

So I decided to start with a new carto. This time I treated the carto just like a regular carto, completely filling it with about 30 drops of liquid before inserting it into the tank. I was afraid I would get leaking from the slots doing it this way, but that didn't happen. This worked well for me. I now have no burned taste and the carto is wicking up the juice just as it's meant to.

I am very impressed with the lack of leakage. I can lay it on its side without fear. I let it sit vertically all night long with no leakage. I am still skeptical about carrying it around in my pocket or my purse because it seems like there would be a risk of the tank sliding and causing a leak. Others on this thread have reported being able to carrry it around in their pocket during a rigorous workday, but it's going to take a while for me to get enough confidence in it to try that.

Overall, I am very pleased with the liquinator!

 

[SeanFromIthaca]

congrats on the purchase tigerlily -- this thing will treat you right now that you've got a handle on it

Thanks for the initial impressions. I can't exactly compare it to a MAP tank, since I've never used one. But I have used a CE2 tank and for the most part my experience is the same. The harshness of the hit, however, seems to be related to the Boge cartomizer. In other words, it's the same experience I get from even a tankless Boge. If you have another cartomizer you prefer, try slotting one and seeing if that works for you.

I haven't used cartomizers in a long time so I guess I forgot that they just hit harder in general -- my first decent juice around back when I started vaping in October 2010 was 18mg Kamel from V4L (if memory serves) and that was right around when I got my first cartomizers. I remember being glad they hit harder because at the time I was using a 510 with the regular small cigarette-sized battery -- and cartridges... so jumping to cartomizers was a noticeable difference.

musta just forgot -- also, with the extra voltage on the Provari the harder hit of a carto is even more noticeable

I'll probably just start vaping 6mg juices -- possibly with extra flavor added -- because after trying Caramel Capuccino from KickBass I don't know if I could ever go back to vaping my old 36mg unflavored juice... sure I only had to pick it up a few times an hour, but flavor is just too nice once you find one you really like. and with this liquinator -- it just really ties everything together

I might try a different brand of cartomizer, but it's probably easier to just use lower-nic juice

at 4.4V, 18mg is a bit much, even on a ce2... and I already know 6mg is good on a ce2, if a little weak, so it's probably just about right in the liquinator

and I can always throw in a few drops of 100mg unflavored if I need to

thanks again for all your tips and posts

 

[Maddoktor2]

To my great surprise, my 3ml Dual Coil Liquinator got here yesterday, and it had shipped on the 30th - that's what I call good service!
It works great - even better than my MAP tanks - no dry hits, no tilting to prime the wicking, no gurgling, no flooding, you can lay it on its side without it leaking - in short, it just works as advertised. Something tells me I'll be selling my tank collection soon...
In fact, it works so well, that after firing it up I immediately ordered the 5ml shell so I can upgrade it to use with the boatload of steel megadualies I have - naturally, I also ordered 3 pre-cut megadualies to get started with.
This is one tank mod I just can't recommend enough - if you like dual coil cartos and tanks, this one's a must have!

 

[hairball]

things I like about the liquinator:

1. like the MAP tank, I no longer have to drip constantly, meaning I can concentrate on whatever else I'm doing more
2. unlike dripping, and the MAP tank, I no longer have to get a sour hit every now and then that lets me know that I either have to drip more, or tilt the PV to get more juice to the atty, respectively
3. much simpler to fill or assemble/disassemble than the MAP tank

things I don't like as much about the liquinator (and bear in mind, I haven't really broken in my first carto yet):

1. the hit you get off the 510 cartos seems harsher and less warm than the hit you get off the ce2s in the MAP tank
2. flavor not quite as pronounced as the hit you get off the ce2s at the same voltages, but the difference is small
3. the 'tendrils' in the MAP tank seem to dry out faster/better than a carto, so you can switch juices better on the MAP tank

if you have a variable voltage device, just bumping down the voltage helps with the harshness of the hit, but that also means you get less flavor

hopefully after I break in this carto the harshness will die down a bit, because if I can bump the voltage back up the flavor will return and be very much comparable to the MAP tank (delicious), but without all of the tipping I've found I have to do with the MAP tank to consistently get a warm, sweet flavorful hit

bottom line for me is, the liquinator is hassle-free -- if you just want to fill and forget, then I'd definitely say that the liquinator is EXACTLY what you need

as the guy in the video says, 'Good stuff'

MAP tanks stink! The liquinator beats them hands down.

 

[Wylie]

I'll probably just start vaping 6mg juices -- possibly with extra flavor added -- because after trying Caramel Capuccino from KickBass I don't know if I could ever go back to vaping my old 36mg unflavored juice... sure I only had to pick it up a few times an hour, but flavor is just too nice once you find one you really like. and with this liquinator -- it just really ties everything together

I'm glad you're enjoying it. I think your experiences mirror my own; it's a trial and error thing. I'm down to 6mg nic for the most part so the throat hit has subsided. I think that caused me to start increasing voltage on the ProVari to make up for it. I'm now at sort of a happy medium with 6mg at around 4.4 to 5.0. Sometimes 5.2 depending on the juice or my mood.

I have some 0 mg juice, too and I'm finding I'm using it a little more often especially in the evenings. I believe I'm moving to a point where I'm really looking for flavor and vapor and the nicotine is secondary. Time will tell...

 

[Dooms]

Ok, You all convinced me to try this..lol I Haven't tried any tanks this early in my vaping career so this should be a good noobie test Is there any coupon codes for them?

Dooms

 

[Wylie]

Ok, You all convinced me to try this..lol I Haven't tried any tanks this early in my vaping career so this should be a good noobie test Is there any coupon codes for them?

Dooms

There are no coupon codes. I think they intentionally tried to avoid that entirely.

 

[wfarrar33]

Ok, You all convinced me to try this..lol I Haven't tried any tanks this early in my vaping career so this should be a good noobie test Is there any coupon codes for them?

Dooms

No coupons that I know of but at the low asking price compared to other tanks it's still a great deal. Mine should be here any day. Now I just gotta wait for the black Provari to ship.

 

[Dooms]

Thanks, Just wondering because of the coupon code box on the cart page. I'll get one anyway.. Looks pretty functional.

 

[Wylie]

Thanks, Just wondering because of the coupon code box on the cart page. I'll get one anyway.. Looks pretty functional.

I think the shopping cart software automatically includes the coupon code functionality. I've seen that with some other vendors who don't use coupons, too.

I look forward to the Newb Review.

 

[Dooms]

Order Placed

 

[SeanFromIthaca]

congrats Dooms -- make sure to watch that video on page #14 right before you try to fill it though

...I believe I'm moving to a point where I'm really looking for flavor and vapor and the nicotine is secondary. Time will tell...

wouldn't that just be the greatest?

what made tobacco enjoyable was the nicotine fix, but the flavor was atrocious... with vaping what makes it enjoyable is the flavor... and the lower you go on the nicotine the more flavor you get. pretty remarkable situation -- almost like the rewards are switched around or something

that's why I'm always hoping I can help someone find the right combination of gear -- when you do, it's really great

 

[seantex]

So at first the taste was great but now I am getting a lot of flooding when using it. It is like there is pressure pulling in too much juice when I take a draw off of it and I end up with juice coming out the bottom. I lubricated like advised and use their cartos but it keeps happening to me. Any ideas why?

 

[hairball]

So at first the taste was great but now I am getting a lot of flooding when using it. It is like there is pressure pulling in too much juice when I take a draw off of it and I end up with juice coming out the bottom. I lubricated like advised and use their cartos but it keeps happening to me. Any ideas why?

I'm finding that some of the cartos that come with the tanks are causing flooding. If you have another carto, or can cut one yourself, replace it. You can piggyback the cartos so you don't have to drain your tank. I've had this happen twice on me and both times were with cartos that came with the tanks.

 

[retird]

Hey all, this is my first visit to this thread. I spent some time looking back at the posts here after seeing a vid of the Liquinator. Till now I strictly used Boge carto's on my VV mods and Darwin. Tanks never interested me, but the Liquinator's integration of a carto looked inviting, thus my order earlier in the day. The consistant comments about the performance and the absence of negative reviews here tells me that this will be a welcome addition to my inventory.

First impressions post will be added after the USPS visits me in a few days....

 

[littlewierdo]

Yes, I am referring to 180 ml of eliquid from BlueMist Vaping Supplies for $35ish

Dont be afraid, they make the crab juice as a joke flavor.

While it isnt the BEST tasting eliquid (you DO get what you pay for), it does the job and for those on a budget, its a great solution.

Now, on to the reason I am posting, I ran into my first snag with the tank. I dont know what I am doing wrong here.

I have 15 precut / slotted cartos I ordered from vapor essence.

I decided today to try for the first time since I recd the tank (12 days on the same carto) to try another carto so I pulled one out of the baggy, slipped it into the empty tank, filled the tank and sealed it with the carto, attached it to my Provari, pulled the drip tip off and put it 3-5 drops of elqiuid into the top where the mouthpiece goes to prime it (the same liquid Ive been using on the old carto), took a drag and it is burnt. That weird polyfill burning flavor you get when the carto is dry.

I tried a few inhales without pushing my button to see if I could get some of the liquid up into the carto, no luck, its not working (still burning). I tried 3 cartos they sent to me (again, all precut) and had the exact same results.

So, its fine for now that it is working with this one carto but ...., if I cant get this thing to work with other precut cartos, Im going to be disappointed.

And it isnt like I cut the cartos, they were precut so they should be working (and I tried 3 different cartos as well).

For now, I have a sad face ...

Alright, I have found a solution that works FOR ME. Did read the other tips but didnt have any luck with them.

And yes, it took me several days to get around to putsing around with this, I work alot and time is something I have very little of lately.

So, first off, if you dont already have a Dremel, you can get one that will work perfectly fine at Walmart. The Dremel 100 (the cheapest model they have) is $35 and it comes with a circular blade that will cut into the carto just fine (altho Im not entirely sure it is designed to work with the metallic cartos, it did for me, I just went slowly).

Now, how to get a new carto to work correctly, after it has been cut, before putting it into the tank, fill the carto as if you were going to vape on it, being careful not to get liquid in the center tube area. If you have trouble getting the liquid to absorb into the filler material (again, try not to get liquid into the center tubing - if the liquid starts pooling at the top and isnt absorbing, that is the situation I am describing here), blow into the non-threaded end of the carto gently - or, if the carto is more stubborn and that isnt causing the liquid to move down into the filler material, wrap your lips around the drip tip end of the carto and blow gently. The pressure should cause the liquid to head down into the filler material. Usually three drops, blow in the carto to push the liquid down and I repeat 3 more times (so a total of around 12 drops). At this point, the liquid will begin to come out of the slots the carto has cut.

Wipe off the juice that leaks and take a few hits to make sure it tastes right (no burnage). It should taste fine.

Now that your carto is filled, put one end into the tank and fill the tank, then seal the tank by pushing the carto the rest of the way thru.

I did this with 3 different cartos to very this procedure in fact works, it is slightly messy (because the liquid will tend to come out of the slots) but will properly prime the carto. And considering that a carto with the tank system lasted me almost 4 weeks (but it should have probably been replaced after about 2 weeks), it isnt that bad. I can plan to have to do some fiddlybits every couple of weeks OR, I went ahead and capped each end of the 2 extra cartos I had already primed. In other words, if you have caps for cartos laying around, you can 'preprime' some cartos, cap/seal them up and they will be ready to use without having to do anything more than taking the old carto out of the tank and tossing and uncapping the new preprimed carto and putting into the tank and filling.

Anyways, a bit wordy, Im a bit amped on caffeine at the moment.

 

[littlewierdo]

Regarding carto cleaning, since I dont really want to retype everything again, in this very thread I posted how I clean my cartos along with a video showing the same method with some slight modifications.

Personally, I think its worth cleaning the cartos if you are going to clean say 30 or so at a time. I have a little baggie with all my new cartos and another group of baggies right next to it that has my used cartos labeled by type (I keep all my cartos separated by type - low resistance 1.5 and 2 ohm, normal 3 ohm, dual coil, slotted 3 ohm and slotted 2 ohm are my current six combinations). Then when I clean them, I clean each type separately.

Its an easy setup that requires no work to organize them. And if you dont like baggies, Walmart or your local Dollar store probably has little plastic drawer combinations that will work fine.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...o-matic-liquinator-v4-1-a-33.html#post3500366

 

[MediocreTrombonist]

I'm glad to see this product getting the attention that it deserves, because it works so well. I just hope that Vaporescence can keep up with the demand!