TC won't work after cleaning atty

[Berenulf]

Hello!

I encountered a curious problem. My ss316l coil worked really well so far, until I decided to change the wick and clean my atty, after 2 weeks of trustworthy service.

Rinsed all the system with hot water, included coil. Installed new wick, primed, juiced up and fired away. Tasteless wet burning cotton was the brand of the flavour I got.

Ok so far its logical, now the stuff gets weird. Turned to power mode, and all is same as before.

Should I dissassemble and dry up all the pieces again or will it go away after a while?

 

[Territoo]

Did you let all the pieces dry before wicking it? Did you dry burn the coils? I'd recommend removing the wick and dry burning the coils. Clean the coils with a wire brush and then rewicking with fresh wicking. Prime the coils and wick with fresh ejuice, reassemble and hopefully you should be good to go.

 

[zoiDman]

Hello!

I encountered a curious problem. My ss316l coil worked really well so far, until I decided to change the wick and clean my atty, after 2 weeks of trustworthy service.

Rinsed all the system with hot water, included coil. Installed new wick, primed, juiced up and fired away. Tasteless wet burning cotton was the brand of the flavour I got.

Ok so far its logical, now the stuff gets weird. Turned to power mode, and all is same as before.

Should I dissassemble and dry up all the pieces again or will it go away after a while?

Hard to say what is going on?

What type of Mod and Atomizer are you using?
Does the Mod say the Ohms are the same Now as they were Before you cleaned your Atomizer?

TC can sometimes be Picky. Make sure that the Screws holding down your Coil(s) are Tight.

 

[Berenulf]

Did you let all the pieces dry before wicking it? Did you dry burn the coils? I'd recommend removing the wick and dry burning the coils. Clean the coils with a wire brush and then rewicking with fresh wicking. Prime the coils and wick with fresh ejuice, reassemble and hopefully you should be good to go.

oh, I didnt dry burn, just left it to dry up for a few hours or so....damn it could be it, I didnt dry burn cause I have SS and one time I tried dry burn it shorted on me and the coil was in dumpster.

I try on really low watts, like 5-10.

 

[Berenulf]

Hard to say what is going on?

What type of Mod and Atomizer are you using?
Does the Mod say the Ohms are the same Now as they were Before you cleaned your Atomizer?

TC can sometimes be Picky. Make sure that the Screws holding down your Coil(s) are Tight.

I have aegis legend L200 atty is zeus x mesh clone, worked like miracle before. The ohms remained the same.

I guess it was due to insufficient drying up perhaps...I have encountered numerous problems with ss, but it does make your coils batteries and wick last like never before, it more than makes up for the flaws.

 

[zoiDman]

TC can sometimes just be Evil.

Starting with a Completely Dry, Room Temperature Atomizer is Good Call.

 

[zoiDman]

oh, I didnt dry burn, just left it to dry up for a few hours or so....damn it could be it, I didnt dry burn cause I have SS and one time I tried dry burn it shorted on me and the coil was in dumpster.

I try on really low watts, like 5-10.

Dry Burning at 10 watts or so is another Good Call.

I see some of these Vids on YouTube with people Smashing Down the Power Button until their Coil looks like a Angry Toaster and just shake my head.

It's like their doing a Example of what happens when a Star goes Supernova.

You just need to do a Dry Burn Long Enough until No Smoke comes of the Coil. And you can See that the Coil is getting Red from the Center.

 

[ShowMeTwice]

oh, I didnt dry burn, just left it to dry up for a few hours or so....damn it could be it, I didnt dry burn cause I have SS and one time I tried dry burn it shorted on me and the coil was in dumpster.

I try on really low watts, like 5-10.

When you do a dry burn with SS316L, or any SS wire, you do not want your coil glowing bright orange or red. If you do... toss the coil... because it is trashed.

You only want to dry burn SS to a dull, or faint, looking orange color. And yes, at low watts works best for that.

Depending on the wire, for example - simple round 26g or a clapton coil, 10w - 16w (MAX). If using higher gauge wire, 28g or 30g, then go lower than 10w. But... only to a dull orange color.

I vape in TC mode on nearly all my regulated mods. As @zoiDman said make sure your coil and atty are at room temperature before putting it on your mod and using TC.

On your Aegis Legend, did you make any changes to the settings?

With SS wire your Aegis should be using "TC-SS" mode. Or "TC-TCR" mode (I suspect you aren't using TCR mode).

 

[Berenulf]

Dry Burning at 10 watts or so is another Good Call.

I see some of these Vids on YouTube with people Smashing Down the Power Button until their Coil looks like a Angry Toaster and just shake my head.

It's like their doing a Example of what happens when a Star goes Supernova.

You just need to do a Dry Burn Long Enough until No Smoke comes of the Coil. And you can See that the Coil is getting Red from the Center.

I've wondered too sometimes....is it kinda neccessary to go all the way guns blazing with a coil, thinking to myself, thats how they manage to burn a coil per week.

But the thing I saw what happened to a clapton of Nichrome slow burned just right the sapphire blue colour, amazing....

Thanks for all the advice, I will wait for my new juice to arrive, on top of all I hit twice bullsass with two juice orders...so can't eveb verify the error atm, could be totally the juice aswell...

Been a ruff week

 

[Berenulf]

When you do a dry burn with SS316L, or any SS wire, you do not want your coil glowing bright orange or red. If you do... toss the coil... because it is trashed.

You only want to dry burn SS to a dull, or faint, looking orange color. And yes, at low watts works best for that.

Depending on the wire, for example - simple round 26g or a clapton coil, 10w - 16w (MAX). If using higher gauge wire, 28g or 30g, then go lower than 10w. But... only to a dull orange color.

I vape in TC mode on nearly all my regulated mods. As @zoiDman said make sure your coil and atty are at room temperature before putting it on your mod and using TC.

On your Aegis Legend, did you make any changes to the settings?

With SS wire your Aegis should be using "TC-SS" mode. Or "TC-TCR" mode (I suspect you aren't using TCR mode).

Tcr and set at 0092. I guess I messed up with the cleaning of atty, didnt dry it enough, washee the coil aswell....dumb me.

 

[ShowMeTwice]

I hit twice bullsass with two juice orders...so can't eveb verify the error atm, could be totally the juice aswell...

Twice bullass sucks donkey balls Mate!!!

Do you have any unflavored juice you can try?

IMHO, it's always good to have some flavorless on hand.

 

[Berenulf]

Twice bullass sucks donkey balls Mate!!!

Do you have any unflavored juice you can try?

IMHO, it's always good to have some flavorless on hand.

Na I don't have flavourless, and my favourite juice is also about to run out soon, I get two refills and done...

Stuck with 2 garbage juices, the one coming in is 50/50 goes into my mtl, which isnt my favourite atty atm, just does the work, y know....

 

[ShowMeTwice]

Tcr and set at 0092. I guess I messed up with the cleaning of atty, didnt dry it enough, washee the coil aswell....dumb me.

Aeigis mods do much better in TC with a TCR setting of 105-110.

In TC-SS mode, look at the screen, you'll see GeekVape programmed 105 for the default TCR setting.

Yeah, I know and understand all the TCR stuff. The only mods that I know of that do an accurate TCR are DNA and Dicodes mods.

A note on TCR of 92 for SS, that is a recommendation only. It is 100% dependent upon the quality of the SS wire you are using.

Daniel at DJLsb Vapes regularly tests the accuracy of TC on mods. Some mods he shows that 92 is a very "weak" vape compared to a DNA mod. In those cases he recommends setting the TCR higher.

I would bump up the TCR to 105, as a starting point, on your Aegis mod. Increase it until you are getting the quality of vape desired.

 

[zoiDman]

When you do a dry burn with SS316L, or any SS wire, you do not want your coil glowing bright orange or red. If you do... toss the coil... because it is trashed.

You only want to dry burn SS to a dull, or faint, looking orange color. And yes, at low watts works best for that.

Depending on the wire, for example - simple round 26g or a clapton coil, 10w - 16w (MAX). If using higher gauge wire, 28g or 30g, then go lower than 10w. But... only to a dull orange color.

I vape in TC mode on nearly all my regulated mods. As @zoiDman said make sure your coil and atty are at room temperature before putting it on your mod and using TC.

On your Aegis Legend, did you make any changes to the settings?

With SS wire your Aegis should be using "TC-SS" mode. Or "TC-TCR" mode (I suspect you aren't using TCR mode).

If you get to Orange, IMO you've gone Too Far. Dirty Blood Red or Light Cherry (by the included Colour Chart) is a Hot as I like to go.

 

[ShowMeTwice]

If you get to Orange, IMO you've gone Too Far. Dirty Blood Red or Light Cherry (by the included Colour Chart) is a Hot as I like to go.

Agree. Bright orange or red = Bad.

With SS wire I only go to a fairly dull orange. Nearest to #980 light orange on that chart.

 

[Berenulf]

Agree. Bright orange or red = Bad.

With SS wire I only go to a fairly dull orange. Nearest to #980 light orange on that chart.

but what happens if you go further?

What becomes of the coil, unusuable gunks up burns juice, or smth else?

 

[zoiDman]

980C is about 1800F. And that Hot Hot Hot.

LOL

 

[ShowMeTwice]

but what happens if you go further?

What becomes of the coil, unusuable gunks up burns juice, or smth else?

This from Advanced Vape Supply...

"If you get it too hot you will hurt the wire and it will form harmful oxides. (Oxides are present on any heated metal, harmful oxides aren't released on SS unless critical temps are reached, like a bright glow instead of a faint dull glow.)"

Stainless Steel Coil & Wire Instructions and Tips

MAKE SURE TO DRY FIRE SS COILS AFTER INSTALLATION AT 10-25w MAXIMUM AND SHORT PULSES. Always test your resistance after installation or modification of your coils. Look for lower than expected ohms (short circuit, coil is touching something), or higher than expected ohms (circuit is obstructed...

www.advancedvapesupply.com

He has a good video on that page demonstrating how he dry burns SS coils.

 

[zoiDman]

but what happens if you go further?

What becomes of the coil, unusuable gunks up burns juice, or smth else?

At those Temps, letting the coil Cool by Air would be Annealing the SS. Probably wouldn't be a Huge Change in Strength. But it might be Less "Springy".

Some will say that at these Higher Temps that certain Chromium Oxides can form. The catch phrase one being Hexavalent Chromium, Cr(VI), which is a Nasty Oxide if Ingested.

But without a Water or Oil Quench from those elevated temps, I'm not sure how Cr(VI) can form? And Ingestion isn't all that Real. Given that Chromium Oxide Bonds are very had to Break. So free floating Cr(VI) is more of a Fear Tactic that US Alphabet Groups put on Scare Pamphlets.

The Real Danger is your Coil Going "Pop" as the Stampede of Electrons collide with one another. Now you have gone from a Dirty Coil to No Coil at all. And that's Not Progress.

 

[Berenulf]

damn, I did go too hot by my first ss coil, by accident, idk the spaced coil somehow shorted and a small segment heated up rapidly, but it didnt change colour as described.

I did use the coil after that for a while....

This from Advanced Vape Supply...

"If you get it too hot you will hurt the wire and it will form harmful oxides. (Oxides are present on any heated metal, harmful oxides aren't released on SS unless critical temps are reached, like a bright glow instead of a faint dull glow.)"

Stainless Steel Coil & Wire Instructions and Tips

MAKE SURE TO DRY FIRE SS COILS AFTER INSTALLATION AT 10-25w MAXIMUM AND SHORT PULSES. Always test your resistance after installation or modification of your coils. Look for lower than expected ohms (short circuit, coil is touching something), or higher than expected ohms (circuit is obstructed...

www.advancedvapesupply.com

He has a good video on that page demonstrating how he dry burns SS coils.