Telling the Doctor?
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Our company did not ask if we were smokers of not, they sent us for the cotinine blood test. I vaped 0mg for 10 days before the test, but EVERY night during those 10 days I dripped some 18mg in a 510 atomizer. Immediately after vaping the 18mg I drank 2 tall glasses of grapefruit juice, which prevents the nicotine from being metabolized into cotinine. When I finally took the test, the results came back zero for both nicotine and cotinine. They have me down as a non smoker. I no longer smoke at all, so I am not going to have them change that. I did not lie. They did a blood test.
That being said, I will not be telling my doctor that I vape unless there is a reason. As a smoker, if you go to the doctor for a hang nail, the reason you have a hang nail will be the fact that you smoke. It is ridiculous. No matter what you see them for, they fixate on the smoking. Now that I am a non smoker, I don't need to distract them with vaping when it isn't necessary. I did not tell them during the insurance company physical, and I must say it was wonderful having them do the full exam without getting distracted by smoking. I particularly enjoyed reading the results that said "lungs - clear". Made my day. I don't give a rat's ... about what the government says, vaping is not smoking, and we should not be penalized for it.
The public and powers that be have to be MADE to understand that nicotine is much like caffeine.
That is how you confront this and eventually fix this.
Not sure that is going to happen with all the propaganda from the ANTZ community though.
But it is the course we MUST take if we want our freedom.
Educate yourself, and then educate everyone around you.
Tell them you'll stop using nicotine when they stop drinking coffee.
That's a good answer for your doctor I guess.
Unless your doctor is enlightened.
But it is not a good answer for an insurance company.
It could wind up screwing you.
The whole nicotine/insurance thing is a serious issue.
A very serious issue.
In a Perfect World, I would Tell my Doctor about ANYTHING that I put into my Body.
But we Don't live in that World. And their is a Melding of Heath Care/Government and Information Data Bases.
If/When I am Asked if I Smoke, I say "No". If I am Asked if I use Any Nicotine Products, I say "No" also.
It is a Lie. But a Lie I can Live with.
But we Don't live in that World. And their is a Melding of Heath Care/Government and Information Data Bases.
If/When I am Asked if I Smoke, I say "No". If I am Asked if I use Any Nicotine Products, I say "No" also.
It is a Lie. But a Lie I can Live with.
Here is an interesting poll to check out...
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/polls/120181-did-your-doctor-approve-your-vaping.html
Well, given that the FDA has approved NRT for long term use...
Nicotine Replacement Therapy Labels May Change
I'd say that is the route we should be looking to take.
I just had a doctor apt. Friday for a checkup. Going through the list of my normal meds and what I was running low on, she noticed I no longer wanted/needed xopenex or advair. I pulled out my Vamo and explained it to her. She was impressed! I told her next time I would bring her some flyers to hand out to her smoking patients.
I doubt she'll do it, but why not try anyway.
I doubt she'll do it, but why not try anyway.
A few years ago, after I had already been vaping for a year, I had a pulmonary function test.
I went to a free clinic, and refused to divulge any information regarding my name or address or anything else.
In case the results went bad, I didn't want it on my "official" health record.
Needless to say the results were fantastic...
Seriously, you're still immortal?
I was immortal for the vast majority of my life.
And then one day I found out I was no longer immortal.
I hate that day.
Buy some of these...
Nicotine Test Kits | Nicotine Testing from Home Health Testing
I've just received a bunch of them.
the fact that vaping is not smoking will eventually become commonplace. until then, its up to us and and professionals to arrive the general public there. it wont take long (i hope).
personally, im lucky enough to have a doctor that recognizes the merits in vaping. he congratulated me when he heard the news. of course he would like to eventaully see me with no nicotine in my system, but for now its still a huge win.
personally, im lucky enough to have a doctor that recognizes the merits in vaping. he congratulated me when he heard the news. of course he would like to eventaully see me with no nicotine in my system, but for now its still a huge win.
The same doctor who was in my last batch of quacks was like that. I got the flu from passing around a bottle of champagne on New Years. Everyone else's doctors diagnosed them with the flu. I was told I smoked.
Same idiot with the last batch told me I needed more sun when I was there for anxiety so bad I had agoraphobia and couldn't even go into the backyard easily (it was actually the restart of IBD getting bad, which of course none of the quacks picked up on even though one was a quack from my childhood and almost diagnosed me with IBD but failed to do the next obvious test to finish the diagnosis). I didn't smoke cigarettes at that time so they couldn't focus on that.
I've spent enough time in hospitals taking care of my father to know that you have to watch out for your own.
Doctors do what they do, and the best information you can provide will further a useful diagnosis.
But even then, being informed and watchful is very important for someone you love.
Doctors are not perfect by any means.
And some of them are not even useful sometimes.
Doctors do what they do, and the best information you can provide will further a useful diagnosis.
But even then, being informed and watchful is very important for someone you love.
Doctors are not perfect by any means.
And some of them are not even useful sometimes.
You bet! I work in corporate healthcare and that's the truth. Better watch out for you and the ones you love. Don't depend on hospital staff and even Dr's to do it. I live it and breathe it every day. Trust me.
I believe this is a big part of it all, and seems to be overlooked by folks. Thank you for bringing it up
Social engineering... now that's scary.
But apparently there are those that subscribe to such a concept.
As long as it isn't what they like that is being attacked.
I'm sure that's what my Gastro CNS is doing after she told me to go ahead and use nicotine and now that they advertise a partnership with Mayo she would like me to get off nicotine. My diagnosis hasn't changed where she should want that. Anything else in my health that would dictate dropping nicotine is for my GP to pick up on and tell me about, I cleared it with both of them.
I've got the studies printed and highlighted for her to try to counter with science instead of the Mayo-ANTZ BS.
Yep, that's one of the most frustrating things I deal with. Nobody is on the same page. You get different opinions from different Dr's/Hospitals because everyone thinks THEY are the entitled expert. I can't tell you how many times in the last 6 weeks I've had to fly to where my parents live to run interference between the staff and administration. My mother just sits there and nods her head to everything they say and then calls me to be the spokesperson. Of course it's my Dad, so I'm WANT to help and I speak the same lingo they do because I have the same job they do...just in a different state. They hate to hear I'm coming, lol. It's amazing how many families get screwed because of budgets mainly and different opinions of Dr's. You have to be your own patient advocate or trust someone in your family to be one or else they will take advantage of you. I see it every single day. Unfortunate but true.
Edited to say: I deal a lot with Mayo here in Jax and they think they know better than anyone else. I'm in the board meetings and sometimes it's just amazing what goes on in there.
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