Temperature control. Have I been missing something in my life?

[Toots]

I need a good bf rda. My Goat and Dead Rabbit the coils are to high from the deck causing a long soak time for the juice to get to the coils. They work great as drippers though. But I want a true bottom feed rda. They will work I’m just not happy with either one of em yet. I guess I’ll try the premade coils in the Goat again tomorrow.

I use my Squeezers with the regular kanthal mesh on original recipe Profile RDAs (as well as on most of my squonkers, Reos etc.). It floats my vaping boat. I also use squonk refill bottles to reload. It seems quicker and less drippy for me.

 

[Izan]

Glad to see another satisfied HS user. I have 2 on the way.

Very satisfied with the unit overall. I shimmed the button with a playing card to reduce the throw and inserted a small bit of rubber under the lower battery contact for a tighter grip on the cell.
I love the 30ml refill bottle, but the squonk bottle is a bit soft, I swapped it with a bottle I had from a dead Augvape Mass Mods S2.

Cheers
I

 

[Myrany]

I have several mods that support TC. I messed with it for about a month trying different coils and settings. Never found a vape that kept me as happy as my plain old Kanthal builds and went back to what worked for me.

Some people love TC. Just didn't work out for me and I didn't want to mess about trying to get it to work any longer.

 

[CMD-Ky]

I have several mods that support TC. I messed with it for about a month trying different coils and settings. Never found a vape that kept me as happy as my plain old Kanthal builds and went back to what worked for me.

Some people love TC. Just didn't work out for me and I didn't want to mess about trying to get it to work any longer.

Once upon a time, long, long ago, I got TC right; it was great. But it was only once and it was a long, long time ago.

 

[MLEJ]

a long, long time ago.

in a galaxy far away?

 

[CMD-Ky]

in a galaxy far away?

Being a kind of spacey sort, I think it may have been.

 

[UncLeJunkLe]

I read somwhere (or maybe heard in a video) that somewhat recently Evolv stated that their data shows that a very small percentage (I believe it was under 20%) of DNA users actually use TC, and as a result subsequent DNA boards won't have TC. I have no idea if this is true.

I've also noticed a couple few new Chinese mods released in the past 6 months or so don't have TC. In some of them, TC is available only as a firmware update.

 

[GeorgeS]

I just discovered that my Hcigar VT Inbox has a temperature control setting. Question is why. Is this why I haven’t been sleeping good at night. Why my clothes don’t fit right. Why I don’t know the answer to all the questions. (Being sarcastic).
Really though, curious minds want to know.

Years ago when I first got into vaping, after less than 1yr of using VV/VW modes and drop in coils I made the switch to rebuildables and TC. (for the most part I've never looked back)

Today with rare exceptions I use TC on all my tube/box/squanker mods. While in the early days I experimented with all sorts of TC able wire types, years ago I settled into using only NIFE48 (TCR=405) and have never looked back.

As others have mentioned a few of the good things a good TC mode setup can provide, I've also found that when it comes to FLAVORED juices, different juices like to be vaporized at different temperatures to get the best flavor.

Lastly, the other thing to consider that there is evidence (some of which was reported here on ECF by Mike Petro) that vaping temperatures over 440F can produce some nasty chemicals. Having a properly setup TC mode setup allows the user to avoid those chemicals.

To each their own as there is no right or wrong way to vape.


g.

 

[Seiggy]

@tnt56, the one other thing about TC that I didn't see mentioned is the Dry Hit / ruined coil prevention. When using TC with the correct coil/wire, if you run out of e-liquid to your coil (I think its age dependent), the temperature of the coil increases quickly to your set temp limit you set. This reduces the wattage to the coil to a very low wattage preventing dry hits and burnt wicking. Just more food for thought

 

[Myrany]

@tnt56, the one other thing about TC that I didn't see mentioned is the Dry Hit / ruined coil prevention. When using TC with the correct coil/wire, if you run out of e-liquid to your coil (I think its age dependent), the temperature of the coil increases quickly to your set temp limit you set. This reduces the wattage to the coil to a very low wattage preventing dry hits and burnt wicking. Just more food for thought

and that is WHY I gave it a shot at all LOL

Didn't work out for me though.

 

[UncLeJunkLe]

 

[Opinionated]

I used TC once and didn't like it... the vape was, to put it in a word, boring. It was exactly the same from beginning of the draw, to the end of the draw, for every single draw.

I can't handle that personally, all that sameness. And since I don't fry my cotton I figured I was good.

There is some curve you can set up so there is a natural vape feel, but that was another 20 minutes to set up and for what? So I could have exactly what I have if I don't use TC mode at all? Lol... sounded like a waste of time to me...

On a plus side, using TC showed me I like a cooler vape, and know how to build...

So I don't use it. I think everyone should try it once though because some just fall in love with it.

 

[AvaOrchid]

Temperature control is the source of all goodness and light.

It works like this: Your mod measures the change in resistance of your coil as it heats up and uses the change from room temperature to calculate the temperature of your coil. (You do have to tell it what wire your coil is made of - the most common is SS316L - because different metals change resistance at different rates.) You set your device's wattage to somewhat higher than you would usually vape and you enter the temperature you want to vape at (there's a standard range, but where you like to be within it varies person-to-person). Then you press fire. The coil quickly heats up to the temperature you chose. Then the mod takes control of the power and continuously adjusts it to keep the temperature constant.

Points to note:

• Many people are perfectly happy with non-TC vaping. A big factor seems to be how long your draw is. If you take short puffs, TC usually doesn't make much difference. If you like a longer draw, TC is excellent because it gets you to your set temperature quickly and then holds it there without overheating.
• There's a lot of variation in the quality of TC on offer. Some chips are great and others are dreadful. As with many other things, you tend to get what you pay for, although the performance of some middle-of-the-road chips can be noticeably improved by using Artic Fox firmware. The high-end chips are DNA, YiHi, and I think one other I can't remember at the moment.

I use TC pretty frequently but certainly not all the time But I honestly didn't know that it's better with long draws and that it doesn't make much difference in short spurts which might explain exactly why I do favor temperature control with a lot of different builds because I do tend to do like a lower wattage longer draw type scenario

 

[r77r7r]

Didn't Evolve come out with a chip (75c??) that you just clicked a button to Repeat and it even worked on Kanthal? I was hoping for that to be the next big thing, especially for newcomers.

 

[AvaOrchid]

Didn't Evolve come out with a chip (75c??) that you just clicked a button to Repeat and it even worked on Kanthal? I was hoping for that to be the next big thing, especially for newcomers.

I'm not sure if maybe your referencing replay mode that allows you to dial in your preferred vape experience and it imitates it time after time so you get the same everything each time until you switch off of replay

 

[Ericsgreen]

Can I say I just got a Hugo Rader and it feels like one of the best mods I ever got, always wanted the Tesla that was identical to this Rader, so light weight, but the chip feels really cool, it has a clock and calender you can set to stay on and even though useless I liked it, it vapes so great, curve and soft, normal etc, I just love it. It's only been a week but wow for $20! Now to try a tc setup on it! I could carry something twice this size in this lightweight material, but not twice as heavy even if it was half the size

The pulse bf rda have a tube that runs up higher and spit out juice on both sides where coil is, it's nifty, tastes fine... I kinda like the profile rdta with mesh more for my squonk, so little power needed and flavor is stellar

 

[ShowMeTwice]

Didn't Evolve come out with a chip (75c??) that you just clicked a button to Repeat

Yep. That feature is called Replay. Evolv implemented Replay on the 250c and 75c.

and it even worked on Kanthal?

Nope. You cannot do TC using kanthal on a DNA 75c or 250c (or any DNA chip). Evolv DNA chipsets still require wire that can do TC such as ss316L, titanium or nickel 200.

 

[BillW50]

I used TC once and didn't like it... the vape was, to put it in a word, boring. It was exactly the same from beginning of the draw, to the end of the draw, for every single draw.

You can setup TC that way (many do), but I don't. Many flavored juices has individual flavors within them that pop out at different temperatures. So I want my vape to hit all of those temperatures individually. And you can setup TC to do exactly this. Replay on the DNA75C and 250C takes this to a whole new level. As you can lock in all of these flavors and get them with every puff.

 

[Superuser187]

Tc is great if u want to go geeky and stuff like that....also it's nice to flex to other cavemen that use normal wattage mode in 2021 like whaaaaaaaaaaa....plus and chicks dig temp control..
But I don't think u actually gain anything compared to using wattage like the experience of vaping I mean is the same....and considering that variable wattage is more stable even if u use tc with the best boards then I find no reason to use it..
It also forces u to use specific material wires and thats something it may not suit your vaping style....
Sooooo yeah...I don't see a reason to use it or that someone misses something if not using it...

 

[BillW50]

But I don't think u actually gain anything compared to using wattage like the experience of vaping I mean is the same....and considering that variable wattage is more stable even if u use tc with the best boards then I find no reason to use it..

Actually variable wattage puts the same power into the coil whether the coil is hot or cold. Or whether there is airflow or not. TC takes both into account and throttles back the wattage if the temperature goes too high. It also gives it more wattage if the temperature goes too low. And if the wicking ever starts to go dry for any reason, it won't allow it to fry itself to death. Lots of good reasons to use TC actually.