Temperature control. Have I been missing something in my life?

[tnt56]

Dang my little thread is like the energizer bunny. It just keeps going and going.

 

[Opinionated]

Dry hits are very very nasty. I’ve burnt 5 wicks in my squonk box cause I get in a hurry to vape and don’t give the wick time to recover.

They are nasty... I got a couple when I was first building an RDA. Took a bit to learn the changes with squonking..

I may have gotten one or two when first building an RTA too but I can't remember now... more just remember all my juice running out.. haha

 

[Opinionated]

If you setup TC in Power Dominant instead of Temperature Dominant, you wouldn't know the difference until the wick goes dry.

Is this a feature on DNA mods only? Or is this all mods that do TC... ?

I never bought a DNA mod because I figured if I didn't like TC then why bother with the expense? So I didn't.

 

[BillW50]

No Opinionated, you can use Power or Temperature Dominant with any TC mod. Although if you do use Power Dominant and a DNA, it makes it a bit easier to use. Since Power Dominant works just like power mode and you adjust your vape by power alone and not by temperature. So you get the same vape as you do from power mode. And on a DNA with Power Dominant selected, the up and down buttons adjust the power up or down. In Temperature Dominant, the up and down buttons adjust the temperature up or down instead.

In either TC mode, you still have to adjust both power and temperature. But one you set and forget and adjust the other to tailor your vape by power or temperature.

 

[Pigs]

No Opinionated, you can use Power or Temperature Dominant with any TC mod. Although if you do use Power Dominant and a DNA, it makes it a bit easier to use. Since Power Dominant works just like power mode and you adjust your vape by power alone and not by temperature. So you get the same vape as you do from power mode. And on a DNA with Power Dominant selected, the up and down buttons adjust the power up or down. In Temperature Dominant, the up and down buttons adjust the temperature up or down instead.

In either TC mode, you still have to adjust both power and temperature. But one you set and forget and adjust the other to tailor your vape by power or temperature.

@BillW50 how do I set a DNA 60 to Power Dominant?

 

[BillW50]

@BillW50 how do I set a DNA 60 to Power Dominant?

It is profile dependent (like most non-color DNAs) and requires EScribe to toggle it on or off in a given profile.

 

[Pigs]

It is profile dependent (like most non-color DNAs) and requires EScribe to toggle it on or off in a given profile.

Ok thanks.

 

[Z-Lee]

Dry hits are very very nasty. I’ve burnt 5 wicks in my squonk box cause I get in a hurry to vape and don’t give the wick time to recover.

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[Falconeer]

I've had devices with temperature control and never bothered using it. If you feel your exhisting way of doing things lacks that "certain something" - then fine,well and good, try it out; if not. I personally, wouldn't waste brain power worrying about it.

 

[BillW50]

That's fine Falconeer, if you don't care about the amount of formaldehyde and Acetaldehyde you inhale. After all, it is your body, right? But if you do, you might want to investigate TC.

New studies find carcinogens in vg and pg at high temps, even in tootle puffers

 

[Superuser187]

There is also the dry burn for hotspots that we shouldn't do with coils...still tho even with all that it's better than smoking cigs so I am ok with that
YOLO

BTW vaping has being studied sooooo much by sooo many scientists paid and non paid by big tobacco companies that i feel like soon vaping will be more studied even that combustional cigarettes hahaha

NEW STUDY:VAPING IN ZERO GRAVITY!

 

[Falconeer]

That's fine Falconeer, if you don't care about the amount of formaldehyde and Acetaldehyde you inhale. After all, it is your body, right? But if you do, you might want to investigate TC.

Yeh right and all that, as we say in Scotland "There aye has tae be yin" - I'm 71, smoked, 60 Senior Service unfiltered a day until I was 24 when I switched to a pipe and inhaled one helluva lot of Condor Sliced over the years til I was 67 ... so I really don't need to worry about what's or what's not in vape juice and certainly don't need to be patronised at this late stage, thank you very much.

 

[UncLeJunkLe]

That's fine Falconeer, if you don't care about the amount of formaldehyde and Acetaldehyde you inhale. After all, it is your body, right? But if you do, you might want to investigate TC.

New studies find carcinogens in vg and pg at high temps, even in tootle puffers

I personally didn't really get into vaping to save my life, but that thread is making me interested in maybe trying TC (power dominant) just to see if setting my vape to below the dangerous temp changes my vape experience in any way. That would tell me if I have been exceeding dangerous temps all along, right?

I have some SS wire and quite a few TC mods, so I may as well test this out.

What I'd mostly be interested in is testing it in my 7-9W tootle puffer setups using 32AWG wire. But I don't have any 32AWG in SS right now so I'll have to settle for testing this on the high wattage setups I use, using 28g SS wire.

 

[BillW50]

I personally didn't really get into vaping to save my life, but that thread is making me interested in maybe trying TC (power dominant) just to see if setting my vape to below the dangerous temp changes my vape experience in any way. That would tell me if I have been exceeding dangerous temps all along, right?

Absolutely!

 

[Superuser187]

I don't understand that power dominant temperature control mode....I mean what's the difference? There is many different modes of temp control??? U don't adjust tcr in power dominant mode? How the mod knows the temp of wire if u are not using a temp controlled material like ss and e.t.c.?
Googled and couldn't find explanation.

 

[smacuser]

doing it wrong

 

[GeorgeS]

I don't understand that power dominant temperature control mode....I mean what's the difference? There is many different modes of temp control??? U don't adjust tcr in power mode?

The general convention to using TC mode is that you set a TCR for the wire you have (or have a wire profile or TFR profile), set the desired temperature and then adjust the power for the time to ramp up to temperature.

I usually just watch the display and hold the power button. While reaching the set temperature almost instantly might seem desireable, you would be surprised how much battery life gets eaten up by using to much power in TC mode. As an example, with a 390F temperature setting and 60W I was very unhappy with the battery life. Simply reducing the power to 25W gave me 1.5-2x the battery life.

As another example, I have a KF4 setup with 6 wraps of Kanthal, driven with 10W my 7mg %100VG juice tastes a bunch different then a Lemo2 with 6 wraps NIFE @390F driven with 20W and the same juice.

Personally, I prefer the Lemo+NIFE+TC vape over the power mode vape.


g.

 

[smacuser]

Isn't TC passe?

 

[BillW50]

TC for either mode the setup is the same. Yes you still need to select the TFR/TCR or wire type.

Power Dominant Mode You adjust the temperature to something higher than you vape (yes some just max it out, but not advised). Then you adjust your vape by adjusting the power level up or down.

Temperature Dominant Mode You adjust the power to something above what you normally vape at (yes some just max it out, but not advised). Then you adjust your vape by adjusting the temperature up or down.

No need to watch this whole video, but at 29 minutes (I saved it there) James explains both TC modes. Just about 3 minutes worth is about it. The rest deals with other things.

 

[smacuser]

But, what if you plan on quitting in a year or two?